There's not much to say about this TAS. It's a very simple platformer split into 60 levels. There's no reason to go over each level, just a few tips and information.
Lag: This game has a lot of lag. I do some movement to minimize it, but as far as I know, the control the player has over lag is quite minimal. There are some things that always cause lag though, and should therefore be avoided. Touching a flower always causes lag, and activating the snowflake shaped platforms that launch Olaf up often cause lag. Most lag comes from the many unavoidable collectible items, or spontaneously.
Slopes: Running on slopes, up or down, is slower than on flat ground or in the air. I didn't realize this until level 16, so on level 7, 11, and 13 some time is lost on the slopes. (Also going back through the TAS I seemed to totally blank on it at the end of 18.) Most of the time on long slopes, I will jump whenever I touch it to stay in the air. Keep in mind that on level 28 I'm forced to stay on the slopes to avoid entering the wind gusts.
Air movement: Olaf gets one grounded jump, a midair jump, and then the ability to hover midair for a short amount of time with reduced horizontal movement speed. This has to be used a lot, but because of the reduced speed it is minimized as much as possible.
Ground pound cancel: Ground pounds must be used in a few areas to break ice blocks. The ending animation for this loses time, but you can cancel it by throwing Olaf's head on the same frame the block breaks. It breaks the block, ends the ground pound, and immediately ends the head throw.
10th levels: Every 10 levels is an autoscroller where you have to escape a threat from the left. If you die though, you can still move on to the next level, and this is much faster.
Credits go to SnessFresh for most of the strats and knowledge taken from his world record run, which can be seen here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VOHJ5kbXas&t=588s
Thanks, God Bless.

nymx: Claiming for judging.
nymx: Ok...so this game is essentially an obstacle course without interference to deal with. By using all the right tactics, you are able to keep moving without hesitation. While considering the missed opportunities of Levels 7, 11, and 13...I don't see that this is as big of a problem as I originally thought. After experimenting with how lag is reduced, I see that a re-sync would be fairly involved to keep up with the existing level of optimization. I was able to reduce a frame or two of lag, in one area, but it wasn't a quick turn-around. So I see that a heavy amount of effort will be required to further this movie. So...from my perspective, the "obvious" missed factors don't exist. If an extended amount of attention was given to this game, a couple of seconds might be found throughout the length of a run.
Accepting as a baseline.

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Slopes: Running on slopes, up or down, is slower than on flat ground or in the air. I didn't realize this until level 16, so on level 7, 11, and 13 some time is lost on the slopes.
How much effort would it be to go back and fix this, and what do you think the optimization improvement would look like? I assume that the "lag reduction" would be an issue thereafter. I ask this, because I don't want you to have to suffer an obsoletion, when we can fix this now.
I recently discovered that if you haven't reached a level of frustration with TASing any game, then you haven't done your due diligence. ---- SOYZA: Are you playing a game? NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing. SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real? ---- Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes? Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :) ---- BOTing will be the end of all games. --NYMX
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nymx wrote:
Slopes: Running on slopes, up or down, is slower than on flat ground or in the air. I didn't realize this until level 16, so on level 7, 11, and 13 some time is lost on the slopes.
How much effort would it be to go back and fix this, and what do you think the optimization improvement would look like? I assume that the "lag reduction" would be an issue thereafter. I ask this, because I don't want you to have to suffer an obsoletion, when we can fix this now.
Yeah, every time I went back to try and edit something in the run the lag frames would get super shuffled around. Not worth going over the whole run again.
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