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Posted: 1/26/2006 10:17 PM
Post subject: Mega Man 64
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Thereisnospoon
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I didn't see a thread for this game already, so I figured I'd start one. This game is basically a port of mega man legends from PSX, but seeing as we don't have a psx rerecording emulator, this may have to do. I have LIMITED knowledge of the psx version of the game, but I'd be glad to try to help anyone interested in doing a run of this game. Any estimates as to how long it would end up being? It seems to me like it was a really long game. . .
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Posted: 1/26/2006 10:21 PM
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AngerFist
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I think its an awful game and its an insult to the Mega Man series.
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Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!
Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
natt wrote:
I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
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Posted: 1/26/2006 10:22 PM
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Thereisnospoon
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There are MUCH worse games for n64, and I think of it more as an RPG than as a mega man game. SDA time for the playstation version is 1:08, so i don't think it would be unreasonable to see a run of this game. What do you guys think?
Do not try to bend the spoon, that's impossible. Instead only try to realize the truth. What Truth? There is nospoon. Then you will see it is not the spoon that changes, it is only yourself
Posted: 1/26/2006 11:05 PM
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cheeseman
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It's technicaly not a megaman game. Does not have the story. Does not have "robot masters", and I haven't checked or anything, but is it even made by capcom?
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Posted: 1/26/2006 11:07 PM
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megaman wrote:
and I haven't checked or anything, but is it even made by capcom?
Like that would make us happier :)
Nitrogenesis wrote:
Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!
Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
natt wrote:
I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
Cooljay wrote:
Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P
Posted: 1/26/2006 11:28 PM
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Thereisnospoon
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It is most definately a capcom mega man game, just like all the terrible battle network games are capcom mega man games.
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Posted: 1/26/2006 11:41 PM
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Bag_of_Magic_Food
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So no SomethingMans in this one?
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Posted: 1/27/2006 12:29 AM
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FractalFusion
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Yes, it's not a Mega Man game. It's just a game named Mega Man. If you like action-adventure, you would like this game (on the PSX). Personally, the gameplay is OK, although the game is graphically challenged on the N64. I didn't play through the whole game, though. The 3D and the choppy emulation got me.
Posted: 1/27/2006 1:11 AM
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Zurreco
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This game wasn't as bad as, say, MMX8, but it's surely nothing to run home to. Either way, I would watch this run simply for the Boss fights and 'dash' routes.
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Posted: 1/27/2006 2:41 AM
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Gigafrost
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As for the question of how fast it should be, the Megaman Legends run on Speed Demos Archive is 1 hour 8 minutes. I think that one is newer than the one I've downloaded and watched, but even still if I remember the differences between the that and this N64 version, there's less loading times in this one? If that's so, I wouldn't be surprised if we could get it under an hour? That would certainly be my hope/goal, anyways.
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Posted: 1/27/2006 3:55 PM
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The bossfights would be kinda stupid because the bosses can't handle circlestrafing. I even remember exploiting strafe walking to outrun a boss that was supposed to be faster than you...
Posted: 1/27/2006 9:43 PM
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Gigafrost
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Actually, I think the boss fights could be much more entertaining because you have a better chance of using circle strafing as a last resort. You might be able to spend a lot of time hugging the boss doing minimal dodging.
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Posted: 1/28/2006 1:27 AM
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Thereisnospoon
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One thing that would make bossfights sucky though, is that you can only shoot like once a second, until you upgrade.
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Posted: 1/28/2006 10:32 AM
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Makou
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megaman wrote:
It's technicaly not a megaman game. Does not have the story. Does not have "robot masters"...
FractalFusion wrote:
Yes, it's not a Mega Man game. It's just a game named Mega Man.
Yes, it is a Megaman game. After years of having fans argue over whether or not Rockman Dash / Megaman Legends was a part of the same timeline/universe as the original- and X-series games, it was revealed in a book -- I believe the statement was made by Inafune himself -- that it is, in fact, the far future of that same timeline. So like it or not, it is a Megaman game.
Posted: 1/28/2006 4:49 PM
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But does it have CutMan and GutsMan???
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Posted: 1/28/2006 6:03 PM
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Makou
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No. If that's your criteria, Megaman Battle Network 2 is more of a Megaman game than Megaman 3 is.
Posted: 1/28/2006 10:24 PM
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FractalFusion
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I've started making a TAS, the first time I tried making a TAS under Mupen64. Don't expect much, though. I don't know much about the game. By the way, could anyone list the buster parts that are important to get?
Posted: 1/28/2006 10:47 PM
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Thereisnospoon
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I don't remember all the parts for this game, but probably the important one for a tas would be ones that increase rapid and power. Thanks a lot for taking this on, I look forward to seeing it.
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Posted: 1/28/2006 11:20 PM
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Posted: 1/28/2006 11:22 PM
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Thereisnospoon
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Here's a list ot buster upgrades. 
|Name               |Attack|Energy|Range|Rapid| Where/What/How        |
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|Buster Max         | Max  | Max  | Max | Max |Easy mode              |
|Power Raiser       | +1   |      |     |     |Mystery Dungeon        |
|Power Raiser Alpha | +2   |      |     |     |Bought                 |
|Power Raiser Omega | +3   |      |     |     |Bought                 |
|Laser              | +4   |      |     |     |Bought                 |
|Power Stream       | Max  |      |     |     |Main Gate              |
|Turbo Charger      |      | +1   |     |     |Bought                 |
|Turbo Charger Alpha|      | +2   |     |     |Bought                 |
|Turbo Charger Omega|      | +3   |     |     |Bought                 |
|Turbo Battery      |      | +4   |     |     |Bought                 |
|Auto Battery       |      | Max  |     |     |Autofire barr./gen.part|
|Range Booster      |      |      | +1  |     |Bought                 |
|Range Booster Alpha|      |      | +2  |     |Bought/given by Data   |
|Range Booster Omega|      |      | +3  |     |Bought                 |
|Sniper Range       |      |      | +4  |     |Bought                 |
|Rapid Fire         |      |      |     | +1  |Found in Ruins         |
|Rapid Striker      |      |      |     | +2  |Found in Ruins         |
|Sniper Unit        |      | +1   | +2  |     |Bought                 |
|Sniper Unit Omega  |      | +2   | +3  |     |Bought                 |
|Sniper Scope       | +1   |      | +5  |     |Target sensor/tele-lens|
|Blast Unit         | +1   | +2   |     |     |Bought                 |
|Blaster Unit R     | +2   | +2   |     | +2  |Ruins                  |
|Blaster Unit Omega | +2   | +3   |     |     |Bought                 |
|Buster Unit        | +1   |      | +2  |     |Found in Ruins         |
|Buster Unit Omega  | +3   |      | +3  |     |Chest in Main Gate     |
|Power Blaster L    | +2   |      | +1  |     |Bomb threat side quest |
|Power Blaster R    | +2   |      |     | +1  |Bomb threat side quest |
|Omni Unit          | +1   | +1   | +1  | +1  |Won in left turn course|
|Omni Unit Omega    | +2   | +2   | +2  | +1  |S.light/core/B.circuit |
|Triple Access      |      | +1   | +1  | +1  |Found in Ruins         |
|Gattling Gun       | +1   | +4   | +1  |     |Gatt. part/flower pearl|
|Machine Gun        |      | +3   |     | +1  |Rapidfire barrel       |
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blaster unit R and blaster unit omega seem to be best, but I have no idea which would be fastest to get. I'll watch the sda run and see what it looks like.
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Posted: 2/4/2006 12:41 AM
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FractalFusion
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After a busy week, I finally have some progress. The run goes up to defeating the Marlwolf boss: http://www.savefile.com/files.php?fid=7234221 Although this is a pretty hard game to optimize, I was amazed at how fast the boss battles went. Splash Mine does a lot of damage to everything ground-based. I forgot to check whether Bon could be hit with Splash Mine when he lowers to smash Mega Man. A few things about the run: - It is faster to run diagonally. When going straight forward, using the strafe buttons does not affect Mega Man's forward speed; thus turning at an angle and pressing forward+strafe goes faster. I didn't start doing this until after the first boss. - I don't use lock-on because it can't lead a sideways-moving target. To shoot airborne enemies, I use look (C-right) and the directional keys. - Sometimes the camera angle affects lag, but I won't bother to reduce lag in this run. I've been watching the SDA run of Mega Man Legends and I can't figure out why he gets the Cannon Kit in the run. It takes a lot of time to get and he doesn't use it a lot. I also think he picks up too much Zenny. If anyone would like an .avi, I'll try to make one.
Posted: 2/4/2006 3:25 AM
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Thereisnospoon
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Looks good so far, but it desynched on me in the bnig city area past the junk shop. You got hung up on the corner of some buildings and didn't go through the door at the other side. . . What rom are you using? Also, what plugins? It's killing my computer, and really laggy, maybe its the plugins' fault. Anyway, keep up the awesome work.
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Posted: 2/4/2006 6:48 AM
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FractalFusion
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Glitchy TAS of 2013 Gameboy TAS of 2013 PSX TASer of 2010
I can't believe I missed this. You must check raw data for the movie to work properly. I enabled it by accident when starting the run. I took it off later, but it's useless now. Edit: nitsuja says not to record with raw data, although I'm not sure why. I'll have to remind myself the next time I make a run.
Posted: 2/4/2006 6:49 AM
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Atma
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I just finished watching it now, not too bad, you certainly owned the bosses so far :)
Posted: 2/6/2006 12:25 AM
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I've been watching the SDA run of Mega Man Legends and I can't figure out why he gets the Cannon Kit in the run. It takes a lot of time to get and he doesn't use it a lot. I also think he picks up too much Zenny.
I made the run that is at SDA. First, I would like to say it is not that great and since then I have beaten that time. I haven't recorded it yet but it is around an hour. Possibly less. I also made it really quick and didn't really try too hard. I'm hoping to send in my new one this month. Anyway, I got the Cannon Kit to make the Powered Buster to open the ceiling in the Clozer Woods Sub-Gate. Probably faster to get the Guidance Unit (Active Buster) instead. I collected way too much Zenny in the run. I agree with that. I mainly got so much so I could upgrade the Active Buster for the battle in the sky against the Gesellschaft and for Bruno (Old City). Im really curious as to what could possibly be done to fix the run even more. I haven't been able to find much in the game. Nihility and I have been trying to find some sequence breaks in the game but have had no luck with any of the ideas. Oh, if its not much trouble could you make an .avi of it?
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