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Posted: 3/4/2006 6:54 AM

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CoolBumpty

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Hmm, that's what I get for bookmarking the old SDA topic and not looking at the forum. =P The V1.0 is just the version of the game that was initially released. Later on different versions fixed some bugs, and changed Ganondorf's blood into green goo, but the first version is as official as any other version, in my opinion. *tries to lift the corner of the rom*

Posted: 3/4/2006 7:53 AM

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Dacicus

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CoolBumpty wrote:

The V1.0 is just the version of the game that was initially released. Later on different versions fixed some bugs, and changed Ganondorf's blood into green goo, but the first version is as official as any other version, in my opinion.

I know. I meant to ask if it was decided that the TAS would be done with the V1.0 rom. About the bomb glitch: Was Kazooie somehow dropping the bomb before he/she jumped? I'm trying to test it out as Adult Link. As far as I can tell, though, the blast propels me forward, not up. EDIT: It works! Here's a movie file recreating the trick. I got it to work based on Kazooie's description of what he did on the SDA forum. I wasn't exactly sure what "hammering" the B button meant, so I just pressed it on alternating frames several times. I'm sorry for the lack of smoothness during the seam walking, but I've never done that before and it was horribly easy to fall off. I guess I also should have gotten the Din's Fire magic before attempting this.

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Posted: 3/4/2006 11:41 AM

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AngerFist

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Dacicus wrote:

EDIT: It works! Here's a movie file recreating the trick. I got it to work based on Kazooie's description of what he did on the SDA forum. I wasn't exactly sure what "hammering" the B button meant, so I just pressed it on alternating frames several times.

So what this mean is, you have to be extremely lucky (in a speedrun) to pull this trick, knowing you did it through pressing the buttons at a certain frame..

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Arc wrote:

I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.

natt wrote:

I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it

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Posted: 3/4/2006 11:52 AM

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Baxter

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I think it means that the trick is also possible without a CC. The only problem I'm having is the fact that there is no snapshot included, so I can't watch the movie.

http://tasvideos.org/Baxter.html

Posted: 3/4/2006 3:49 PM

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qqwref

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But can you skip those gaps without CC?

Posted: 3/4/2006 6:29 PM

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Dacicus

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AngerFist wrote:

So what this mean is, you have to be extremely lucky (in a speedrun) to pull this trick, knowing you did it through pressing the buttons at a certain frame..

Well, it could just be that my timing is horrible. I kept on dropping the bomb either too early or too late a lot, as far as I could tell. With adequate practice, it is definitely possible in real time.

Baxter wrote:

I think it means that the trick is also possible without a CC.

That's what I was testing, I hope.

Baxter wrote:

The only problem I'm having is the fact that there is no snapshot included, so I can't watch the movie.

Oops. I thought it was included as part of the movie file. Would it be a file with the extension .st? If so, I've updated the link with a zip file containing both the movie and the snapshot. It doesn't look like the snapshot compressed too well, though (it's 1.6 MB now).

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Posted: 3/4/2006 7:40 PM

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qqwref

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Whoa, that's pretty crazy. But will it really help in the long run? It seems like it would take a lot of time to run that seam (even on a finished version), so are you sure that you can save at least that much time (over the alternative) by getting to the temple early?

Posted: 3/4/2006 9:46 PM
(Edited: 3/4/2006 10:32 PM)

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AngerFist

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qqwref wrote:

Whoa, that's pretty crazy. But will it really help in the long run? It seems like it would take a lot of time to run that seam (even on a finished version), so are you sure that you can save at least that much time (over the alternative) by getting to the temple early?

You'll get earlier hover boots which opens for a lot of new opportunities.

Nitrogenesis wrote:

Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!

Arc wrote:

I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.

natt wrote:

I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it

Cooljay wrote:

Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P

Posted: 3/4/2006 9:47 PM

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Bag_of_Magic_Food

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And sequence breaking is always cool anyway...

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Posted: 3/4/2006 10:03 PM

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Thereisnospoon

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Definately

Do not try to bend the spoon, that's impossible. Instead only try to realize the truth. What Truth? There is nospoon. Then you will see it is not the spoon that changes, it is only yourself

Posted: 3/4/2006 10:06 PM

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xebra

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Dafanataly~

Posted: 3/4/2006 10:13 PM

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Bag_of_Magic_Food

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Defiantly!

put yourself in my rocketpack if that poochie is one outrageous dude

Posted: 3/4/2006 10:59 PM

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Dacicus

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Well, I went back and got Din's Fire. Here's an updated movie that actually enters the Shadow Temple using Kazooie's trick.

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Posted: 3/5/2006 6:17 AM

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Kal-El

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Dacicus wrote:

Well, I went back and got Din's Fire. Here's an updated movie that actually enters the Shadow Temple using Kazooie's trick.

i get an error from mupen saying it could not find or load the snapshot. i also got a warning about the country code for the movie being 69 and i am 581.

Posted: 3/5/2006 6:24 AM

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Dacicus

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You're using the v1.2 rom, but the movie is recorded with v1.0. I get the exact same error if I try playing it with the v1.2. BTW, v1.1 has country code 325, if anyone is having a similar problem and it gives that number. EDIT: Here's a save state after getting the Hover Boots using the early Shadow Temple trick, for anyone who wants to do any further testing.

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Posted: 3/5/2006 7:57 PM

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DK64_MASTER

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Thanks!! Disregard my post inquiring about a save-state on the SDA forums.

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Posted: 3/6/2006 10:48 PM

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Dacicus

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Here's another save state, this one with bombchus in the Shadow Temple right after getting the boots. There's been talk of using bombchu boosts similar to bomb boosts, so you guys can test those.

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Posted: 3/9/2006 5:59 AM

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Kal-El

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thanks Dacicus for the info, i was to fix that, awesome trick. are there any movie files for this game?

Posted: 3/10/2006 2:26 AM

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Dacicus

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Movie files showing what? I have two or three of the early Shadow Temple trick and one showing how to make the pillar at the end of the temple fall with bombchus. The thread at the SDA forum has several videos of tricks.

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Posted: 3/13/2006 9:14 PM

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Dacicus

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I could probably reproduce most of them and make movies if no one else does or has done so, but you might be in for relatively long wait (one week+) as I'm pretty busy right now.

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Posted: 3/17/2006 2:07 AM

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