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Posted: 4/3/2006 7:55 PM
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KaitouKid
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It won't be the first time I've said I only attempt to do this just so someone can come along and do a PROPER run of it. That's what I did for Ninja Five-O and look at how nice the proper run of IT is. Same difference here. *shrug* Things'll never get done if people don't have a time to beat, apparently.
Posted: 4/3/2006 8:04 PM
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KaitouKid wrote:
Same difference here. *shrug* Things'll never get done if people don't have a time to beat, apparently.
It's surprising how true this is.
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Posted: 4/3/2006 11:19 PM
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spockybiemmichab
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KaitouKid wrote:
Plus there's aesthetics to take into account. I have actually tried jumping constantly. And while it might TECHNICALLY be faster, seeing Wario just air dash like a retard across the top of the entire stage looks more interesting.
Hmm...in my eyes constant air-dashing might be interesting to watch for one or two stages because it's surprising and unexpected - but for the whole game? Whatever, it's been just an idea from my side. I would be interested in making a run, but my knowledge about this game has gone over the years and, to be honest, I don't have time to do it - university eats my life this semester...
Posted: 4/4/2006 5:25 AM
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KDR_11k
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With constant jumping you have to touch the ground and interact with more enemies than if you're dashing on a straight line over the level. I'd say that's more interesting. Boco: Does the hat really change the end poles animation that much? Seemed to me that it's more dependent on the level you just completed.
Posted: 4/4/2006 6:53 AM
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spockybiemmichab
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KDR_11k wrote:
Boco: Does the hat really change the end poles animation that much? Seemed to me that it's more dependent on the level you just completed.
Jet-Wario's usual running speed is a lot higher than Dragon-/Bull-/Normal-/small Wario's "walking" speed. Try it yourself and you will see!
Posted: 4/4/2006 6:57 AM
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Boco
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KDR_11k wrote:
Boco: Does the hat really change the end poles animation that much? Seemed to me that it's more dependent on the level you just completed.
Try it. Finish a level with Garlic or Bull or Dragon Wario and compare to Bunny Wario. There's a HUGE difference in how fast the pole laps are done. Now, whether the benefits of Bull outweigh that.. keeping in mind that changing hats causes quite a bit of delay... I think it requires a lot of planning.
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Posted: 4/4/2006 11:51 AM
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Spoony_Bard
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Actually, if I recall, on top of Jet Wario's running speed the further you get in the game the faster Wario runs in the end pole animation. He's really sluggish on Rice Beach, but load up a save in Syrup Castle and finish a level to see the difference. I guess Nintendo expected people would eventually get sick of the same thing every level, and programmed it to speed up as you went through the game.
Posted: 4/4/2006 12:27 PM
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spockybiemmichab
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I just tested it and you're right. Later on Wario's really speeding up around the poles no matter what kind of hat he's wearing. Btw: I updated my little movie.
Posted: 4/4/2006 5:28 PM
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KaitouKid
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And your movie still doesn't work. So I have no idea why you keep posting shit when it's obvious I can't VIEW it. I'm not downloading a different version of VBA for it.
Posted: 4/4/2006 5:46 PM
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Nach
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Spoony_Bard wrote:
Actually, if I recall, on top of Jet Wario's running speed the further you get in the game the faster Wario runs in the end pole animation. He's really sluggish on Rice Beach, but load up a save in Syrup Castle and finish a level to see the difference. I guess Nintendo expected people would eventually get sick of the same thing every level, and programmed it to speed up as you went through the game.
I'm pretty sure it's related to how much money you collected. Collect no money, and it's slow in later levels too.
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Posted: 4/4/2006 6:14 PM
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spockybiemmichab
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KaitouKid wrote:
And your movie still doesn't work. So I have no idea why you keep posting shit when it's obvious I can't VIEW it. I'm not downloading a different version of VBA for it.
Well, as far as I can see, I'm using the newest version. It's not my fault why it doesn't work for you. And I think there's no need to be offending... Edit: @Nach: That would make a lot more sense
Posted: 4/4/2006 8:14 PM
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Boco
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KaitouKid wrote:
And your movie still doesn't work. So I have no idea why you keep posting shit when it's obvious I can't VIEW it.
I can see it fine...
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Posted: 4/5/2006 11:39 PM
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KaitouKid
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http://rapidshare.de/files/17302107/WarioV2.vbm.html Hm. Golly gee. It seems that this is three whole seconds slower because I included JUMPING! Gasp and shock! I sat and tested jumping vs dashing in maaaany many spots in 1-1. And you know what I found out? Dashing is always, always, ALWAYS faster. By at LEAST 20 damn frames. Meaning air dashing through the stage is going to be faster as a whole than jumping through it. Mostly because of two important factors. 1) Wario has CRAP for horizontal movement and 2) There's a delay when you land. But you know what? I quit. I give up. I've done this damn thing numerous times and people keep bitching. So fuck ALL of you. Do it your own god damn selves. Make it as ugly as you fucking want. Go jump through every stinking level of the game. I don't give two shits anymore. Perhaps if Bag would shut his fat fucking mouth every once in awhile and didn't irritate the shit outta me, I would've continued. So go make your fucking movie of it on your own. I'm out. Now I remember why I left in the first place. Bag.
Posted: 4/5/2006 11:44 PM
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Bag_of_Magic_Food
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Yay, you found the fastest way! Now I won't feel bad about you continuing.
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Posted: 4/5/2006 11:53 PM
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KaitouKid
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Go fuck yourself, you little irritating cunt.
Posted: 4/5/2006 11:55 PM
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Bag_of_Magic_Food
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You'll never accomplish anything with that attitude!
put yourself in my rocketpack if that poochie is one outrageous dude
Posted: 4/5/2006 11:57 PM
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KaitouKid
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You'd know all about not accomplishing anything, yes?
Posted: 4/5/2006 11:57 PM
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Bag_of_Magic_Food
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Yes.
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Posted: 4/6/2006 12:05 AM
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Boco
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KaitouKid wrote:
http://rapidshare.de/files/17302107/WarioV2.vbm.html Hm. Golly gee. It seems that this is three whole seconds slower because I included JUMPING! Gasp and shock!
..but.. it's only 1 slower.. and you didn't jump....
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Posted: 4/6/2006 12:17 AM
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KaitouKid
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Hm. I'll go fuck up my left hand further to make two more vids, then.
Posted: 4/6/2006 10:21 AM
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spockybiemmichab
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Oh my god, I'ver never seen such a infantile behaviour... We're just giving ideas about how you could make the run more interesting, but that doesn't mean at all that you must do it this way... Your reactions are just ridiculous!
Posted: 4/6/2006 8:23 PM
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KaitouKid
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Go fuck yourself too, you little shit.
Posted: 4/6/2006 8:50 PM
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Could a kind mod please split away the trash. I'd like to see this game get done.
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Posted: 4/6/2006 9:03 PM
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Boco
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I think that I should do a level because I like this game but right now there is an issue involving a missing world eating jelly
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Posted: 4/17/2006 8:46 PM
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Kitsune
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I played this game a lot as a child. I am considering playing it through a few times, perhaps doing a run for it, just to give people something to improve on. ;3 My run probably won't be anything spectacular, but it should be better than doing nothing. :3 I will think on it for a while. ^.~
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