I found a faster method of the backdash-run:
Normally you have to turn around; but just with making an attack you havn't to turn backwards.
I tested it, and it's faster.
I believe pirate_sephiroth already invented this technique a while ago.
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Yeah, I believe that p_s guy found that. Maybe he stole from someone else... who knows?
And look! Now we have 2 Castlevania:AriaofSorrow threads!
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It rests on the conviction that you — by your choices, effort and actions — have made yourself into the
kind of person able to deal with reality. It is the conviction — based on the evidence of your own volitional
functioning — that you are fundamentally able to succeed in life and, therefore, are deserving of that success."
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Bisqwit wrote:
We have three threads. The original one, the one you created long ago despite there being one, and this one that was created, despite there being two.
Awesome.
<Swordless> Go hug a tree, you vegetarian (I bet you really are one)
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Yeah, but mine is number 2: the mission
This one should be number 3: a soma to the past or something.
3 big threads about the very same game! Amazing, indeed.
"Genuine self-esteem, however, consists not of causeless feelings, but of certain knowledge about yourself.
It rests on the conviction that you — by your choices, effort and actions — have made yourself into the
kind of person able to deal with reality. It is the conviction — based on the evidence of your own volitional
functioning — that you are fundamentally able to succeed in life and, therefore, are deserving of that success."
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Bisqwit wrote:
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I have a bunch of minor problems right now, but my main, burning questions are:
1) Why didn't you get the Skeleton Knight Soul?
2) If you're going to kill those werewolves, why aren't you making them drop Black Belts?
1) Why didn't you get the Skeleton Knight Soul?
2) If you're going to kill those werewolves, why aren't you making them drop Black Belts?
1. I didn't know if it will save time, so didn't get it.
2. I never thought of that. For my next run I'll do it.
I have prepared a list with changes which could be made. Please give me your opinion whether I should use them.
in the room after the white dragon I could use the upper way with skeleton knight instead of the way with zombie soldiers and the axe armor.
I could get the blocking mail of a dead crusader. With enough luck manipulation it can make me invincible.
defeating the flame demon twice to get the Laevatain.
defeat cockatrice to gain experience without losing time.
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Yrr wrote:
defeating the flame demon twice to get the Laevatain.
defeat cockatrice to gain experience without losing time.
-You shouldn't do this. Instead, you should take the upper path in the Arena to get the Laevatain and Red Minotaur at the same time.
-I don't think you can kill it so quickly at such a low level, but I could be wrong.
Here's my new run, but I think I'll redo some places.
Isn't it faster to
-jump
-attack (air)
-attack (ground)
-back dash jump
-repeat
instead of
-jump
-attack
-repeat?
Great, you're already more than 16 seconds ahead of Atma, and I couldn't spot any mistakes this time. Keep it up, and you should be about a minute faster in the end.
Yrr wrote:
Isn't it faster…
Well, I don't think so: having to attack twice before the next backdash is hardly going to save you any time, but feel free to prove me wrong.
Warp wrote:
Edit: I think I understand now: It's my avatar, isn't it? It makes me look angry.
Great, you're already more than 16 seconds ahead of Atma, and I couldn't spot any mistakes this time. Keep it up, and you should be about a minute faster in the end.
Thx, but I want to get the Lubicant soul, and to use it i have to use two rotten meats or a spoiled milk. But getting a spoiled milk from a Evil Butcher seems to be VERY hard, so I think a get two rotten meats instead.
I also try this new attack method at Manticore.
Or I keep this run =)
Oh, so it was the attack method? Then yes, it probably is faster than the usual, but I'm not sure. Have you done any tests?
BTW, what is the latest place where you can find a spoiled milk before fighting Lubicant?
Warp wrote:
Edit: I think I understand now: It's my avatar, isn't it? It makes me look angry.
I tested it on Manticore and it was faster (about a half second) and made a demonstration.
The last place for rotten meat is before the Graham-talk before Chapel, and the latest spoiled milk place is a the evil butcher in the study (second room).
I tested it on Manticore and it was faster (about a half second) and made a demonstration.
Right, it's faster. BTW, I checked pirate_sephiroth's glitched any% run, and he used the same trick there. Shame on you for noticing it earlier.
(Shame on me for not pointing it out earlier.)
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Edit: I think I understand now: It's my avatar, isn't it? It makes me look angry.
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it's not faster on Creaking Skull because you can't hit its chin when it raises its arm to prepare the slam. you must jump and attack always, unless you don't allow it to do that attack. each weapon attack makes the enemy invincible for a certain amount of time. for the spears, such as Longinus, this time is extremely long. it's almost 0 with any weapon with muti hit attack, like the electric ones.
"Genuine self-esteem, however, consists not of causeless feelings, but of certain knowledge about yourself.
It rests on the conviction that you — by your choices, effort and actions — have made yourself into the
kind of person able to deal with reality. It is the conviction — based on the evidence of your own volitional
functioning — that you are fundamentally able to succeed in life and, therefore, are deserving of that success."
- Onkar Ghate
Bisqwit wrote:
Yes, but there are two of these invincible peroids, one of the weapon, one of the (shooter) soul. Throwing a spear makes the enemie invincible to all souls (or maybe only to spears?) but you can attack with your knife (or whatever you have).
Hey, maybe this can be hacked with the memory viewer ;) Making the red minotaur soul hitting 60 times per second would be cool xD
Here's my new run.
I put my runs in my sig. Then you can always download the newest one.
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Hmm... yeah, that requires some research. But there are 3 different timings, so ( I guess):
1- normal attack
2- bullet soul
3- guardian soul
I think they are totally independent of each other...
"Genuine self-esteem, however, consists not of causeless feelings, but of certain knowledge about yourself.
It rests on the conviction that you — by your choices, effort and actions — have made yourself into the
kind of person able to deal with reality. It is the conviction — based on the evidence of your own volitional
functioning — that you are fundamentally able to succeed in life and, therefore, are deserving of that success."
- Onkar Ghate
Bisqwit wrote:
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yeah, in harmony there are 2 (or 3?), I'm guessing again
1-normal attack
2-sub weapon
3-sub weapon + book??
"Genuine self-esteem, however, consists not of causeless feelings, but of certain knowledge about yourself.
It rests on the conviction that you — by your choices, effort and actions — have made yourself into the
kind of person able to deal with reality. It is the conviction — based on the evidence of your own volitional
functioning — that you are fundamentally able to succeed in life and, therefore, are deserving of that success."
- Onkar Ghate
Bisqwit wrote:
Then, for my run, I think it would save time getting the Final Sword:
-a single attack can hit twice (now we all know why ;)
-it's one of the most powerful weapons in the game
-allows me to sell Laevatain, so I don't have to get a super-potion, and I can buy a Mana Prism, so I havn't to get it in the Chaotic Realm.
Your opinion?
Do you even need Laevatain then? You could get Longinus's spear (which is +102 ATT, while Laevatain is only +64 ATT) for Balore fight, though I'm not sure if it will be significantly better (if better at all).
Warp wrote:
Edit: I think I understand now: It's my avatar, isn't it? It makes me look angry.
