Though entertainment is no longer a factor, the submission must still follow the rest of the site rules (must beat all known records, be at least mostly optimized, etc.). If there is a lot of audience support, it will be published as a Moon. If a lot of people found it boring or not very good technically, it will be published to The Vault.
This page explains The Vault for you.
Good to hear that entertainment is no longer a submission factor. Thank you for explaining :)
New site system. Games can't be rejected for entertainment anymore. A bunch of No votes will just land the run in the new Vault.
Good to know, anywhere I can read some more information about this? also what is "the Vault", what are the criteria for it?
And who now decides what movies are published?
You want to do a TAS of a speedrun to show that it can be finished faster then was thought before. That is the entire idea of a speedrun: to finish as fast as possible. A TAS does exactly the same, but with great precision. Fun is not a factor, speed is.
If that was the case I'd just watch speedruns. It's not why I watch TASes.
Then is there a great place to watch speedruns?, this site seems to have a lot of them but they have arbitrary rules for allowing movies to be submitted.
Please note however that I do not think that TAS-movies can't be fun, or can't be made pure for entertainment. Prime example of this is the "walkathon" http://tasvideos.org/1895M.html.
That is where we differ greatly on opinion. I think a TAS of a speedrun should be as fast as possible, that is the goal to complete, if you complete it then it should suffice. Sure you can rate the entertainment value as very low but that is not the idea behind a speedrun. It would be a shame to not let through a submission and not document how fast the game can be completed if it is not fun to watch.
That's what regular speedruns are for. The entire point to making them tool-assisted is to provide entertainment. I honestly don't know why else you'd want to do something like this. I'm sorry if my responses are just repeating the same argument without expanding on it but I really don't know what else to say. It's like you're saying you don't understand why comedies need to be funny.
You want to do a TAS of a speedrun to show that it can be finished faster then was thought before. That is the entire idea of a speedrun: to finish as fast as possible. A TAS does exactly the same, but with great precision. Fun is not a factor, speed is.
Well you want me to look at that piece of information, logic dictates that you would then at least provide me that information and not wait for me to search for it.
What I can see from the Monopoly runs is that they do not finish the game; it's that easy. They prematurely end the game to get to a end screen instead of completing the main objective: getting to the somewhat normal end of the game.
This Superman TAS however does get to the normal ending in the fastest way we currently now. Reason enough for it to be submitted.
That is where we differ greatly on opinion. I think a TAS of a speedrun should be as fast as possible, that is the goal to complete, if you complete it then it should suffice. Sure you can rate the entertainment value as very low but that is not the idea behind a speedrun. It would be a shame to not let through a submission and not document how fast the game can be completed if it is not fun to watch.
If that were the criteria, then you would also have to accept runs such as $1499 and $1501 Monopoly and Fisher Price games.
Please give me a link to these game before bringing them up in the discussion.
The whole point to a TAS is to be entertaining. Why would you go out of your way to carefully put together a video that's boring to watch?
That is where we differ greatly on opinion. I think a TAS of a speedrun should be as fast as possible, that is the goal to complete, if you complete it then it should suffice. Sure you can rate the entertainment value as very low but that is not the idea behind a speedrun. It would be a shame to not let through a submission and not document how fast the game can be completed if it is not fun to watch.
I am wondering, why is entertainment value a criteria for speedrun of games?
The idea of a speedrun is to complete the game as fast as possible, why should we care if the game is interesting? sure this game isn't very pleasing to watch. It does however beat the game in the fastest way possible we currently know.
You could make multiple categories of which some are more entertaining, but not publishing a speedrun because it would not be entertaining enough is bogus.
The main focus should always be the fastest way a game is completed not the most entertaining way.