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Chutacoacko Playz wrote:
Spikestuff wrote:
A "serious TASer" doesn't complete a movie in 2 hours with optimisation flaws.
Stop making excuses.
he used frame advance and stuff
Well, frame advance and save states are the absolute bare minimum needed to make a TAS. Without the ability to control the speed of the game and to perform re-records, the run would basically just become identical to an RTA speedrun, and not a TAS.
However, using these doesn't make someone a good TASer or a bad TASer. It just makes them a TASer...
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Chutacoacko Playz wrote:
Lobsterzelda wrote:
Chutacoacko Playz wrote:
Pancake001 WAS IN THE CENTER OF TASING SINCE THEN
What? I'm sorry, but I don't understand what this means.
He's a almost serious TASer but a lot of entertainment isn't done. Please read my FAQ on the submission comments for details.
Generally speaking, if he's an almost serious TASer, his run is likely to be almost accepted (i.e. it will get rejected).
For a first submission, I would recommend picking a short (~5 minutes) uncomplicated game that you are interested in, and then try to make it as entertaining as you can (if you can do so without losing time).
That goes for any one of the 3 (2?) people involved in this submission.
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Alyosha wrote:
That was fast, nice work, yes vote.
mklip2001 wrote:
Great job whipping up this run so soon after AGDQ! It looks good to me. The comparison encode is pretty cool.
Challenger wrote:
Great job managing to improve the entire game! The comparision encode was also useful.
Yes vote.
I'm glad to hear that y'all enjoyed the movie. Making the comparison encode was definitely more complicated than any other TAS encode i've made. It was kind of a pain making it at first because I was trying to do it in iMovie, which doesn't really support split screen effects very well, but then I downloaded final cut pro, and that made things a lot easier.
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g0goTBC wrote:
That's a very very very TAS.
Jokes aside, even when having it play at 4x the speed, it felt slow-paced. That's a no for me, but it's good for the vault tier.
The funny thing is, the developers seem to have intentionally made the game painfully slow. Address 0X0025 is a counter that increments by 1 each frame, starting at 0 when the game is powered on. When the counter hits 3, it is reset back to 0. Bobby only moves right on frames where the counter is 0 and right is being held on the joystick. As such, if you played the game with a cheat enabled to set 0X0025 to always have a value of 0, then Bobby would move 4X faster relative to the background and other enemies, which makes the game feel more fluid and less painfully slow.
Unfortunately, whether it be due to technical limitations or a desire to make the game take longer to beat, Bobby is cursed to only be able to walk forward once every four frames.
This is one of the few TASes i've made that even I feel bored re-watching, which is probably part of the reason why this movie still hasn't been claimed for judging despite being so short.
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MagicK wrote:
Hi there! I started speedrunning this game some week ago and willing to share something. When learning this game, I discovered a wrong warp on level 3 that saves several seconds and I noticed the actual TAS didnt do that. Here's the video to show it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhUwlvouTNQ
Also fun fact, it does also happens on AVGN video if you look closely to 10:16.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwmoJkHS-2E&t=614s
What are you guys thinking about that?
Hello MagicK, and welcome to TASVideos! You should make a TAS of Cheetahmen II that incorporates this new strategy. Cheetamen II is a short game, and it sounds like you're already experienced with the "controls" (if you can even call them that) of the game, so it wouldn't take very long to make an updated TAS of the game.
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Just to double-check: could a movie made on BizHawk 2.3.2 obsolete this movie if it’s faster than this movie, or does it need to be done on BizHawk 2.3.3?
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Alyosha wrote:
I didn't try to improve level 1, so it looks like you are ahead by a bit already. You would have to play through a bit more of the game though to make sure you don't have RNG problems.
In that case, I will keep working on my submission to see if I can save time over this run. I tried to play back your movie on BizHawk, but it wouldn't sync (presumably because of the length of the GameBoy load screen from the BIOS).
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Oddly enough, I happened to be in the middle of working on a TAS of this game, but it looks like you beat me to the punch.
On the bright side, I was still in the middle of TASing level 1 when you posted this, so I didn't waste too much time. In case anyone's curious, here's a link to what I had done so far:
http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/60620252679467333
I haven't checked your movie yet, although I doubt there's any places in my movie where I saved time over your final TAS.
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akdsjfakldsf wrote:
In any network game, I can delete any things, including my own character. Even I've cost so much money. But why can't I do it here? You didn't pay any and I didn't, either. I just gave you that and you keep that because both of us wanted at the beginning.
TASVideos doesn't exist just as a place for individual TASers to show off their movies. It also exists as a place to document the fastest means of beating games, and to archive the specific movies that have held the record for fastest way of beating a game over the years. Additionally, it serves as a way for future movies to have documentation of what strategies appeared in earlier runs so that they can use these strategies to obsolete old movies.
If all of your old videos and movie files were deleted from the site overnight, then this would create a lot of issues for the site as a whole, since all of these movies would need to be TASed by somebody else in order to re-appear on the site, and furthermore, the original strategies that you used in your TAS would be lost, making it even harder to make new TASes for the games.
However, at the end of the day, all of this is irrelevant. When you submitted your movies you agreed to submit them in accordance with the Creative Commons Attribution License. This gives TASVideos permission to display your movies for as long as they like, even if at a certain point you decide that you don't want your movies on the site anymore.
This may not be what you want, but ultimately, the existence of TASVideos as an archive of the fastest completions of games (and the fastest completions of categories of games) depends on users not having the ability to ever remove old movies once they have been published. Imagine if they didn't have this rule. To give you a simple example, let's suppose that users could delete their own movies as they pleased, and I deleted all my movies and all links to my movies that I had ever submitted right now.
I have had multiple TASes of The Lion King for the NES published, and I am the only one who has had a movie published for the game. If I removed all my movies, then there would be no movie on the site anymore for this game, and all the strategies and techniques that I found for saving time in my movie would be deleted, which would make it take much longer for somebody to make another movie of the game which was as fast or faster than my most recent submission.
akdsjfakldsf wrote:
I don't care if you don't allow me to say anything in the forum at all. Because I can still submit rubbish movies and say something in the submission text. Or I can register new accounts, too. I can change my IP address with VPN or using random computers in a random cybercafe. If I do that, I do know I can't make any big influence to your site. But you and I can't have a good time during these days. And I'll waste many time to do those bad things, you'll waste many time(maybe less than me) to delete those bad things.
I would hope that you value your time enough that you wouldn't spend time creating intentionally bad movies under a VPN and new account in order to waste every user of the site's time. Even ignoring whether or not these actions are justified, what you're suggesting still isn't very practical. Even if you reached a point where you were creating 30 new accounts per day each under a different VPN and were hindering usage of the website, this could still be avoided by temporarily having users who submit their first movie need their movie to be approved by a judge before being added to the workbench.
If you were to create new accounts to flood the forums with meaningless messages, then in an absolute worst case scenario, (unlikely) this could also be prevented by temporarily requiring that the first post made by a user be approved by a judge before it appears. This would likely only need to be done for no more than a week (at most), since it's impractical to assume that you're going to spend 15 hours a day spamming messages on this site for 3 weeks or something like that.
In short, besides being impractical, this idea is petty and would only seek to hurt other TASers on the site for the purpose of helping give you what you want. As such, please do not do this.
If you want it to be like your account doesn't exist on this site then there is a simple solution: stop logging into your account(s) on the site, stop visiting the site, and stop obsessing over the idea of getting all of your movies and account history purged from this website.
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Whoops. I meant to post this file for the TAS: http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/60468875408644022
The other bk2 file was just the one I used to make the temp-encode of the TAS. If a judge could swap the file on this submission with the userfile movie, I would greatly appreciate it.
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Just a quick update to this:
I found a 4 frame timesave in level 1 of the TAS on the screen with the bird and the barrels. I'll upload it to userfiles later on tonight. For now, I'm going to go do more testing.
If nothing else, level 1 probably can't be optimized anymore because at this point, it holds right continuously except for 1 frame where it holds nothing (and you move at the same speed jumping and running).
Edit:
I finished figuring out what each memory address corresponded to in the game (of the ones which had an effect on gameplay), and I updated the list of memory addresses on the TASVideos page for Bobby Is Going Home. This should make it easier to test at what point the difficulty of the game stops increasing.
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I'm nominating EZGames69 for all of his Lion King TASes on Sega consoles. As you all may have noticed by my submission history, I do have an interest in The Lion King TASes from the 90s :p
