I was looking into possible improvements to the TAS today.
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Zero Def glitch doesn't work for me, so I'm waiting for more information from the Youtuber.
- Going on a detour to Fungitown to get mush badge for Mario.
Takes 4.5 minutes. By clipping through the main entrance, it only takes 1.5 minutes. Additionally, since the Rock minigame in Guffawha Ruins isn't entered, no timer event has to be visited to make Bowser's Castle Skip possible, so another 2 minutes is saved (over the 4.5 minute route).
Note that most of the info on this post is already outdated.
Item plan
Everything marked * is collected in 2012TAS.
Everything marked # is collected in the new TAS.
These are the detour times to collect the given items that are en route.
****BEGINNING
1 mushroom, 1 super mushroom 5.0 #
1 mushroom + 3.5 #
1 mushroom + 4.33 #
1 1up ~4.5 # {{SKIP THIS}}
1 mushroom 0.5 *1(=1mushroom)
1 mushroom 4.8 #
1 1up (koopaguy) 3.0 {{GET THIS}}
****STARDUST FIELDS
1 mushroom 0.25 *2
1 mushroom 0.38 *3
****100 COIN COLLECTING
1 mushroom 0.35 *4
1 Syrup (tutorial1) 0.0 *
1 mushroom " 0.3 *5
1 Syrup " 1.3
1 Syrup 0.2 *
1 mushroom 5.5 # {{SKIP THIS}}
first battle,2 mushroom 0.0 *7
second battle, 2 mushroom 0.0 *9
third battle, 2 mushroom 0.0 *11
Tolstar, 1 1up 0.0 *
(!COLLECT 3 more coins (IMPORTANT)! # compared to 2012TAS. So collect 103 instead of 100. 1 extra from coin block and 2 extra from MLcoinblock.)
****MOUNTAIN VILLAGE
1 mushroom 1.0(!) #
1 mushroom + 0.19 else 0.36 #
2 mushrooms,15coin 12.0 # (1mush/6sec) {{SKIP THIS}}
4 mushrooms, 1 syrup 32.0 (1mush/8sec)
****MOUNTAIN
1 mushroom 2.7 #
1 syrup(?) 1.1 *
1 mushroom 2.3 #
1 mushroom 0.24(!) #
Hohooros, 1 1up 0.0 * [11mush,1syrup,2 1up,$120]
1 1up 4.3 #
{{GET 4 coins from coinblock}}
****AFTER HOHOOROS
1 mushroom 6.3
1 syrup 6.8
1 syrup 1.6
1 syrup 1.0 *
1 1up 10.2
1 mushroom ~9.0
1 mushroom, 1 syrup 4.0 #
Dragohoho, 1 1updx 0.0 *
****AFTER DRAGOHOHO
1 nut 1.7
1 mushroom 4.2 #
1 syrup + 0.3 #
1 mushroom + 1.0 #
1 syrup + 0.3 #
1 mushroom, 1 nut 1.2(!) #
****SEWERS
2 mushrooms 2.4(!) #
2 mushrooms, 1 syrup 2.1(!) #
3 mushrooms, 4 coin(IMPORTANT!) 5.0(!) #
{{GET 4 more coins}}
1 syrup + 0.5
QueenBean, 1Maxnut, 1Herb 0.0 *
[11mush,1Maxnut,2syrup,2 1up, 1 1updx, 1 herb, $200
49MPOW, 11MHIGE, 46LPOW, 9LHIGE] (with ??? equipped)
1 Beanbadge 0.0 *
(town shopping)
****CHUCKLEHUCK WOODS
PoppleRookie, 1 1up 0.0 *
[have 40 coin]
1 supernut, 1 supersyrup 9.4
1 mushroom 0.9 (!) #
1mushroom, 2syrup ~4.0 #
1herb,1 1up, !5coin(IMPORTANT)! (other room) ~6.0 #
1 mushroom(piperoom) 0.5 (!) #
!get 10 coins from the coinblock in piperoom(IMPORTANT)! #
1 syrup (+) 0.26 *
This syrup was collected for Fungitown $ but it should be looked into how this
syrup was used.
****OHO OASIS
~ 10 coins(2 per balloon, on ocean) 2.0 #
****FUNGITOWN
shop:
[see below codebox]
****SKIP
1 1up, 1supermushroom 0.6 (unknown if possible)
BirdoPopple 1 MaxSyrup 0.0 *
BirdoPopple [???] coins 0.0 *
Fungitown shop
** Fungitown Shop
HIGE was never upgraded in 2012TAS.
- M HIGE 13
L HIGE 11
- I have
[$40, 11mush, 1 Maxnut, 3 Syrup, 1 1up, 1 1updx, 1 herb,
2 PeaBadge(e), 1 BeanBadge]
- Stats at this point
[54 MPOW, 13MHIGE, 50 LPOW, 11 LHIGE]
- Mushbadge costs 238
Mushroom costs 19 (at 19MHIGE 18)
Supermush costs 48
Syrup costs 23 (at 17MHIGE 22)
- Maxnut sells for 91
Syrup sells for 6
1up sells for 18
1updx sells for 113
herb sells for 7
Extra mushroom collecting
>>This is the # scenario. I get 11 mush(2012TAS), and then everything marked with # above I get additionally:
26mush 1super 4 oneup 6syrup 39-10coin² 1nut 1herb
>> Testrun additionals: +2mush 1syrup
This implies that I sell only 1 oneup and have 8 coins to buy 2 peabadges
instead of selling 2 oneups and keeping the 8 coins for later.
It doesn't make any difference except that selecting 1 oneup may be faster than selecting 2 (out of 3 or 4) whereas I can select ALL of my oneups in one frame later.
(²note to self: because I have 30 when I arrive in Fungitown, instead of 40(2012TAS).)
***
3.0 BirdoPopple battle takes 1min 46sec
4.0 BirdoPopple battle takes 50sec
It takes 51 sec to get from 2012TAS to 3.0
It takes more than 2min (1min 41sec+6needed mushrooms) to get from 2012TAS to 4.0
3.0: 1min + 46sec + 51sec = 2min 37sec
4.0: 50sec + 2min(+) = 2min 50sec(+)
Therefore, 4.0 mushpower in Birdo Popple isn't worthwhile.
Battle
I have more detailed info in my offline file.
- No syrup needed for BirdoPopple.
Castle town shop
I can conveniently sell MAX syrup (from BirdoPopple) and use my 180 coins (from BirdoPopple) to buy enough mushrooms to get from 4.0 to 5.0.
HIGE plan
queenbean m>6 KEEP POW+2
L>6 DO HIGE+3
popple rookie m>7 KEEP POW +2
L>7 DO HIGE +3
