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Warp wrote:
TASVideoAgent wrote:
This run reaches the credits in the fastest possible time.
Since the Pokemon Yellow run (seems to have) set the precedent, this is actually a completely legit game completion, so it's not even a joke submission.
These situations are not even remotely comparable.
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Warp wrote:
Mothrayas wrote:
Warp wrote:
Mothrayas wrote:
Warp wrote:
Also, does this depict violence against children?
Yes. It also depicts violence against women, elderly people, robots, aliens, gods, fat pink genie manchildren, fused people, and fused children.
That's no excuse, you know...
Did I ever say it was?
Violence is seldom the answer. Have you tried talking about it first?
Yes. It turned out this worked better anyway. It is the Dragon Ball Z-verse, after all.
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Warp wrote:
Mothrayas wrote:
Warp wrote:
Also, does this depict violence against children?
Yes. It also depicts violence against women, elderly people, robots, aliens, gods, fat pink genie manchildren, fused people, and fused children.
That's no excuse, you know...
Did I ever say it was?
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Warp wrote:
Are all the fights identical?
Nope (as is stated in the submission text). They are mostly similar, though.
Warp wrote:
Also, does this depict violence against children?
Yes. It also depicts violence against women, elderly people, robots, aliens, gods, fat pink genie manchildren, fused people, and fused children.
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Warepire wrote:
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Jackpot!
That pot was made for Jack, if your name isn't Jack I have to take that pot back from you so I can give it to Jack.
Jack's a good friend of mine. I just borrowed it from him for a couple days.
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It's an exercise in luck manipulation, sure, but it was still really boring to watch. No vote, but it's probably worth the Vault.
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Fun, the way the run is constantly getting improved.
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chiharu wrote:
he updated the run today.
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have fun
Link to video
Another half-minute saved. This game has now officially beaten Portrait of Ruin in shortness.
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Derakon wrote:
From the screenshots Nach suggested
*cough*
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To me, it seems there's a bit too much criticism on the category choices made. This makes it hard for me to accept, because a publishing a run with bad categorization issues will lead to all kinds of problems in the future.
In this discussion, I could see at least ten opinions against this category (excluding my own). On the other hand, there doesn't seem to be nearly as much defense in favor of skipping the big shield.
dave_dfwm wrote:
However, I'll still add the same opinion I added when I viewed your WIP. I wish you would have purchased the large shield instead of a second bait in the very last shop before the last dungeon. It would have given the complete "all item" look.
Ace Of Hearts wrote:
It also skips getting the Big Shield, which I'm sure people would like to have seen acquired. This is also part of the reason I'm weary of even tagging this run as "All Items."
Radiant wrote:
I don't think this can claim to be an "all items" run if it skips the big shield.
NFITC1 wrote:
Voting "No" for this.
I can forgive the not getting the white sword and blue ring (I also don't recall seeing you pick up the first boomerang, but you may have and just never used it) even the potions in favor of keeping the old woman's letter, but to actively ignore the big shield on a number of occasions just doesn't seem right for a "all items" run.
Tangent wrote:
Actually, when 100% is an actual category, it's usually pretty obvious. A distinct and limited set of collectable whatevers or ennumerated goals that can be readily measured. It honestly seems pretty obvious to me here too, and if you asked people whether or not buying the upgraded shield would be required, I'm pretty sure almost everyone would say yes.
I can easily see the argument for skipping the other things (although don't agree with it), even skipping maps and compasses, since the end result is Link at his full power with the entire inventory screen kitted out, but the shield's a pretty big omission. There's also a pretty solid consensus out there with what "All items/100%" for this game means without the need to come up with an alternative definition not involving collecting all the items.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/nes/563433-the-legend-of-zelda/faqs/48203http://zeldawiki.org/100%25_Completion#The_Legend_of_Zelda
AndiHoffi wrote:
The rule "get everything that cannot be lost" is a very clear one, but IMO the result does neither really fulfil "all items" nor "100%".
taobmc wrote:
why no shield? I know it can be lost but . . .
grassini wrote:
if it gets the big shield,it should obsolete this.
flezki wrote:
meh vote because not every single item is collected, but still a good run
SmashManiac wrote:
I too agree that skipping the big shield is neither "all items" nor 100%.
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Screenshots:
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I would rather see a run with the Big Shield collected done. Calling a run "all items" while skipping out on one quite obvious item, is already quite stretching it. In theory, the definition of "no missable items" makes sense, but in practice the Big Shield makes a rather glaring hole in the concept.
Radiant wrote:
If it were labeled e.g. "high %" or "playaround" or something similar, there would be no issue.
If it were labeled "high%", it would be rejected for being an entirely arbitrary category.
If it were labeled a playaround, it would be rejected because it fails to be one.
People generally like runs because they fulfill a particular goal (in this case, "all items"). If such a goal is changed or removed, then the run fails to have a purpose. Nobody accepts "random high%" runs, because they do not have a clear goal in mind. So yes, there certainly would be issues.
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Until the hack's scoring system is complete (this is only v0.01 after all), I don't see any reason for one to do a "max score"/96% run yet, as it would become obsolete pretty fast when the next version comes out.
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I notice that between the loads of encodes being uploaded to TVC pretty much constantly, there's also the occasional obsoleted runs (for instance). Now, I don't see this as a problem - after all, TVC is pretty much a YouTube archive for the site, and the site keeps both obsoleted and new runs in the records - but the issue is that the runs on YouTube have no notification or anything that makes it clear that the run is obsoleted. The only way to find out is to click the link to the movie on TASVideos in order to see if it is the case.
So I'd say there should be a tag in the YouTube entry's title and/or description if a run is obsoleted, noting that the run in question is obsoleted, with a link in the description to the movie that obsoletes it. I know this idea has been brought up a few times on IRC, but those stray mentions on the chat don't really amount to anything and are quickly forgotten.
Thoughts about whether to or how to implement this?
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I liked the end as it is now.
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Uploaded to YouTube, for those who prefer watching it that way:
Link to video
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Good to see it's submitted. Definite yes vote. The hack lends itself very well to making a speedrun of it look very entertaining, while also showing off the greatness of the hack itself.
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Neat. Nice to see that someone decided to finish the whole thing.
I like the superior use of critical hits. Seems to save a fair amount of time in some places.
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Basically, all text and images on the site wiki pages can be used, if proper attribution is given to the site.
Just make sure to refer to TASVideos, and there generally won't be any issues.
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adelikat wrote:
With the new category system/rules, we would be open to this category. Should this be rejudged?
Has there been any rule change since this run's judgement (Jan. 23 2013)?
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Warp wrote:
What "improvement"?
100% less MLP is an obvious significant improvement.
Also, doing roughly the same level of game-breaking in roughly a quarter of the time seems like a significant technical improvement - no matter whether the end results are pony music or pi digits. I agree that the pi's are not exactly the most impressive thing that could have been done, but I think it's still good enough anyway at showing the fact that the game has been utterly taken over by the TASer.
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The game looks pretty funny, and the play has a fairly good pace.
Yes vote for entertainment.
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I personally wouldn't accept movies on new emulators that don't include any improvements to the runs themselves. That opens up a very nasty can of worms, and I've already seen posts from some users essentially stating they will exploit this, if a precedent like this is accepted.
Accepting runs like that are both disrespectful to the original authors, as well as negatively impacting the site's credibility as a record compendium. After all, if runs get obsoleted by slower runs time-wise that are not faster in any way, their records just stop making any sense at all.
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jlun2 wrote:
Wait, why is this using a somewhat obsoleted emulator? If this gets accepted, what's the point of this other Pokemon Yellow run being made in BizHawk?
I'm confused.
VBA is not deprecated.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
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