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You silly people, you all repeat each other about Hourglass but none of you actually put a link to it. You must help this poor man find it!
Hourglass.
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Heh, funny.
Other than that, it basically largely sums up my stance on the whole deal, too.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
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<adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
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Well, considering the last time there was a notable argument about "unnoticable improvements", it was a 25-second improvement of SM64 0-star, I'm not so sure about that.
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Yeah, Warp most definitely has a persecution complex, and there's really nothing. No random baseless insults thrown around at him or anything.
Note for anyone whose sarcasm detector is broken: HEAVY sarcasm here
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The screenshot is shifted one pixel to the right compared to the print screen. Other than that (and the interface), the two shots appear to be identical (of the same frame).
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
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[14:09:08] <ThatGugaWhoPlay> This world is fucked up
[14:10:02] <turska> ThatGugaWhoPlay: you've got the right idea. Now go TAS some more.
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How are you going to do the L. Knuckle and R. Knuckle bosses then? They combined require more shots of Salt Water than can be available at once, and I don't know if you can beat them both in one round without a W-Tank.
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Link to video
I was bored, so I decided to TAS a single match on this game. Using Zangief and Strider. Zangief because he still has that meter gaining trick from MSHvSF, and Strider because combos.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
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For attention.
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I really like the name Bizhawk.
I agree with the others about the extension though, it shouldn't be ".tas". It's both too specific (movie files can be used for many things that aren't TAS) and too vague (the extension name has little to do with its emulator name).
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
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I agree with all of this.
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Nice. Castlevania III is one of my favorite games from the series, and Grant is my favorite character from the game. Nice improvement too. Yes vote.
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[02:37] <Kyman> well shes 9 so i cant be too rough so i'm trying to lightly shove her but it isn't working
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WIP so far (intro stage and Flame Mammoth) encoded by ThatGugaWhoPlay and uploaded to YouTube by me:
Link to video.mkv encode
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I finished Flame Mammoth's stage: http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/1193348976/Mega%20Man%20Xtreme%202.vbm
With about a second between each hit, it's possible to do a lot of playing around with the bosses, and to show off in general. (Watch out not to cause unnecessary lag frames, though).
I also found a small trick with one ladder in the last part of the stage, where grabbing it and then releasing it and airdashing can save a frame. Otherwise, this part was fairly straightforward.
Also, wall climbing is actually easier than it looks. You just need to start walljumping, and then press A every 7 frames, and airdash once you reach floor height.
ThatGugaWhoPlay, could you encode the WIP and put it on YouTube? That way more people can watch what we're working on :)
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Here's a further improvement:
http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/1919789937/Mega%20Man%20Xtreme%202.vbm
Goes up to the second autosave.
I managed to save 112 frames from your WIP. Most of it is due to much faster wallclimbing using the trick I noted, and some smaller things I noted before, such as a different jump down the shaft and taking damage more efficiently. (I also managed to get 20 DNA souls in this part).
If you redo the next part and take care of all those things I pointed out at your WIP, then I think it will be good enough that it won't need to be redone anymore. Good luck with it!
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I think we should still redo the stage first, as there are still some suboptimalties, but as for the boss, notice that the fireballs drop down where you are standing. So make sure that you're a bit away from Flame Mammoth when the fireballs appear, then you can continue to be in front of him to slash him.
If anything, you could freely take damage without wasting time, if timed correctly. (You could even walk right into Mammoth to get some invincibility against the fireballs).
But you should wait with going on further until I've done some tests with walljumping, and the other mistakes in the stage are fixed. Then we are good to go on.
EDIT: As for walljumping, it can be done the same way as Mega Man Xtreme (1), in a very quick way. When starting a walljump, press A for one frame, and then nothing for seven frames, and then A again, and repeat.
EDIT2: Correction: 6 frames waiting, not 7.
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Much better. In fact, most parts of it looked pretty good. However, there are still a few things I noticed:
-At frame ~11800, you jump higher than needed. If you jump a bit lower, you fall down faster and save a bit of time.
-At frame ~12350, the damage taken looks a bit sloppy. I assume due to the fireball it's not possible to destroy the enemy, but isn't it possible to dash a bit in the part before and jump over him? That would seem faster.
-The wall jumping after that looks a bit slow. (I'll need to look further into the walljumping to see how fast it can go, though. You also jumped as high as possible on the last jump, which meant you spent more time going forward in walk speed. You could've airdashed to get dash speed as soon as you reached floor height.
-It looks like you didn't dash along the conveyor belts in the trash compactor section. It's faster to dash along with conveyor belts, as they speed you up a little bit. (Mind, only if they go the same way you go. Otherwise they slow you down)
-At frame ~13100, that walljump is not needed. You should've adjusted the jumps before that so you don't catch the wall.
-I noticed you used autofire to press right to dash near the end, with the corridors. Please don't use that, as half the time autofire makes you a frame late, so it'd turn out suboptimal. You need to manually try out at which frames you have to press right to dash as soon as possible.
-Also, when you defeat enemies, you should try defeating them at different frames to see if they may drop DNA-souls then. (Make sure it doesn't cost time, though.) The route requires to get 200 souls by the end of the fourth stage, but more is always better.
-As a general tip, don't be afraid to try out different ways, jump heights, dashing on the ground etc. if they could be faster. If you jumped differently before frame ~13100, for example, you wouldn't need to catch the wall and lose time.
However, other than these points, you actually did a very good job this time. Congratulations, keep it up like this.
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Yes, it's currently clear that one is significantly better than the other. But we're going to work to make you much better than now, about as good as me :)
If you haven't done so already, I really recommend playing back my Flame Mammoth part again, at 25% speed, with input display on, and take a good look at the input. That way you can see a lot about how I do things.
You can also try the same section again and see if you can be (almost) as fast as me. This is a good way to practice TASing.
Oh, and another useful thing which I forgot about at first is memory values. I collected a bunch of important ones.
C0F3 -- DNA soul digit 1
C0F2 -- DNA soul digit 2
C0F1 -- DNA soul digit 3
C0F0 -- DNA soul digit 4
B851 -- Boss Invincibility (Skullhead)
B857 -- Boss Invincibility (Mammoth)
B85A -- Boss Invincibility (Sponge) (presumably all boss invincibility values are in this range B85x)
C108 -- X (horizontal) position (2 bytes)
C107 -- X subpixel position
C105 -- Y (vertical) position (2 bytes)
C104 -- Y subpixel position
C1B6 -- X (horizontal) speed (2 bytes)
C1BC -- Y (vertical) speed (2 bytes)
C154 -- Dash counter (counts how long a dash goes on before it stops)
B821 -- Boss health
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It's much better than the last one, but still fairly unoptimized. You should look closely at the inputs in the intro stage which I did. For the bunnyhopping, you just need to start jumping again at the first frame possible and you'll still keep dashing speed. This is faster than what you're doing here.
Also, the switch to X is totally unnecessary. You have Zero with Saber+1, you can just slash those enemies out of the way. You also take the ladder at around frame 13500, but it's clearly faster to take the bottom way instead.
I'll see if I can get some time today or tommorrow to show the kind of speed/optimization that's needed for the TAS.
TASing may seem hard, but one thing to remember is, patience is key :)
EDIT: Oh, and could you also come and join the TASVideos IRC channel? It would be much better for conversation.
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I wonder how you managed to take 1260 savestates for that. Did you even use frame advance, or any form of slowdown at all? It looks worse than a real-time run.
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Emulator: VBA-RR v23.5 (svn 394), default settings
ROM: Mega Man Xtreme 2.gbc (USA version)
If the verification movie synced, this one should too.
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