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It doesn't really matter if it's faster, since this isn't a Vaultable category and everyone seems to think there's no more entertainment in it. It's fine for RTA where they don't have distinct tiers or categories, but considering everyone seems to hate this new run, I would have to say that this new skip shouldn't be allowed.
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Bizhawk should provide it's own tutorial on how to use it that's easy for anyone to understand.
It's literally the most user friendly emulator out there. I've given it to friends who knew nothing about emulation and they understood it immediately.
It should emulate all games properly and the emulation should not have glitches that the original game didn't have.
Yeah, this is definitely the easiest thing to do. Hey, emulator authors! Why can't you just be perfect already? What the hell's so difficult about just emulating all games properly, apart from the fact that you all have to basically reverse engineer consoles and program every little intricacy of every little hardware feature without having any knowledge of the original build, and even then there are going to be thousands of edge cases where you have to intentionally implement inaccuracies? I could do that in a day, maybe half if I give it a little effort!
Not only should it have the feature of being able to save or load a state. There should also be a way to suddenly switch to TAS mode in the middle of game play by opening TAS studio which already exists but TAS mode should work in a different way.
No it shouldn't.
There should be a way to start recording your gameplay when ever you want by clicking a certain option.
Oh, you mean movie recording? The feature that's been in literally every re-recording emulator for over a decade? Yeah, no, I'll forward that to the dev team right away. Critical overlook on their part, seriously.
You should be required to have your gameplay be in the middle of getting recorded in order to enter TAS mode.
Totally agree. You should already be TASing whenever you "enter TAS mode". Can't believe so many people are against this.
Once you enter TAS mode, it should list the entire sequence of controller inputs since you started recording and you should be able to see what the game looks like on a specific frame by clicking that frame making it be the only highlighted one.
Also agree, absolutely. I wonder why no one's done this yet, and why I haven't been using it for 20 TASes or something like that? I mean I can see it now, a piano roll of inputs where you can "paint" input by clicking and dragging the mouse, an infinite set of "branches" perhaps that act as savestates... We could call it TAStudio! How clever!
When you make an edit to the sequence of controller inputs, nothing should happen until you click "Save changes" and after you do so, the earliest frame that changed should be the one highlighted.
No, yeah, great idea, overwrite your entire work every time you want to make a change. Maybe I should jump at frame 20494? Okay, gotta wait 5 minutes while it saves. Oh, that's too early. What about 20495? Okay, gotta wait another 5 minutes while it saves. It's still too early, though.
There should also be a button to play the movie in the TAS studio, but if you haven't saved the changes you made to the sequence of controller inputs, a box should open up asking you if you'd like to save those changes and if you pick no, they should be lost.
I mean... Go back to your Frame 0 marker and just hit play? I can't even think of anything sarcastic here.
Exiting TAS studio should also make you play in real time from the highlighted frame but once you reenter TAS studio, the change in controller inputs as a result of exiting TAS studio should be treated like a single edit that can be undone.
what
Finally, TAS studio should also have a button for saving the video you're making and for closing it in a way that deletes the temporary record of what edits you made to the video and enables you to start making another video in the same way.
what
Clicking "Save changes " should really save changes in the sense of saving a video.
Nah, you're wrong, saving shouldn't save anything. Another critical oversight. When I save, I want the program to crash and wipe all my data.
It should just change the temporary record of what edits you made to the sequence of controller inputs.
Dude you just completely went off the rails here, what in literal Jesus are you talking about?
Once you open a video you already made, you should also be able to edit that video and save it with a different file name without deleting the video you already made.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, slow down there, cowboy! I don't think any developer can pull off the option of "saving an edited file with a different file name"! You may as well ask BizHawk to print money and auto-create TASes for you!
The tutorial should give long instructions on how to use that version of Bizhawk that anyone can understand and actually learn how to do what ever they want to do in that program and there should be a clear warning to people before they download it that they will probably completely know how to use it if they take the time to read the big long tutorial and that they might even end up accidentally losing an edit that they regret losing if they don't read the whole thing.
Speaking of things I can't understand and taking the time to read a big long thing and something I regret...
They should also have tutorial on how to download it and there should be a simpler way to download it so that there won't have to be as long a tutorial on how to download it that peo ple who aren't computer experts can understand.
I'm not a computer expert and yeah, downloading two files is probably the hardest thing I've ever accomplished.
It should also be possible to load a gamecube controller profile just like in Project 64.
Um.
Bizhawk should provide a tutorial on how to create one and there should be a way to create one in Bizhawk so that the tutorial won't have to be as long and still be understandable to people who aren't computer experts.
You... You do realize that if there was an option to create whatever you're talking about, then the tutorial for it wouldn't be necessary, right?
There should also be a way to save a screenshot as a PNG image file.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that option is in BizHawk, and I think it's called "every screenshot is a PNG and it's been that way since 2012 how are you even getting non-PNG screenshots".
Also, also files that were a saved state that wasn't saved in Bizhawk itself should be able to be converted into a PNG image.
Yep, definitely a feature BizHawk should support. Turn non-BH savestates into PNGs. I think we have someone that specializes in useless features that would probably break the emulator further, but he's probably busy with TAStudio right now.
I think tasvideos.org should get help from a high level research group to figure out how to make an even better version of Bizhawk.
I think I need to get to Snoop Dogg's level of high to be able to research this post.
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Fifthing [3235] SNES Soul Blazer by LeHulk in 1:29:33.72
Easily one of the most entertaining runs of the year for me, especially for an underdog game that doesn't usually lend itself well to entertainment.
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Nthing Challenger and RobynS, for sure.
Even if I'm completely alone on this, I have to nominate DrD2k9, almost entirely because of one single post. Emphasis is mine:
DrD2k9 wrote:
I really respect the comments and philosophical questions raised by ais523. I also appreciate that he/she is willing to share his/her perspective. If this submission serves no purpose but to have drawn out these questions/comments/concerns about the deeper philosophical positions on TASing games, then I feel that it was a worthwhile submission regardless of the ultimate decision on the video.
That said, I have a minor issue with your suggestion that TAS videos have to somehow exhibit or exploit things about a game that the developers didn't want or didn't expect.
Some of us newer (and likely some older) players aren't as experienced with computers and/or programming as others in the community may be; yet we still have an interest in this hobby. As an example, I'm in healthcare and haven't deeply studied software and computers. I just enjoy video games and enjoy the challenge of TASing. It's essentially a puzzle to me.
For those of us who don't understand the various intricacies of the technology or aren't versed in coding, simply completing a game as absolutely fast as we find possible using TAS techniques is exciting enough of an accomplishment even if nothing was attained outside of the developers' intents.Even if/when my TAS attempts are rejected by the community, I still feel a sense of accomplishment in something I approach as a hobby, because I've still done something I would never have been able to achieve while playing a game normally.
I'm simply suggesting that, as a community, we guard against potentially alienating current or future members by requiring that submissions perform something beyond developers intent.
Again I appreciate that ais523 shared his/her thoughts. It's communication than strengthens what we do. Just look at how many submissions have resulted from collaboration for proof.
Absolute perfection.
Despite a fairly high number of game/goal choice rejections and mostly ignored Vault publications, I absolutely think he deserves the award because of this sort of mentality: TASing should be about having fun, getting better, learning more about the craft, doing what you want, and taking everything in stride regardless of how positive or negative the feedback is. Staying motivated even in the face of rejections and negative backlash, continuing to do what you want in the face of a community that's constantly forcing you to produce what they want to see, keeping a positive outlook on everything no matter what... And a high work rate doesn't hurt, either, especially considering that both his game and goal choices are so barely explored that I'm surprised he's managed so many high tech quality runs in such a short amount of time while needing to do all the research and optimization by himself.
Challenger and RobynS also fit this mold really well, and I'm just super extra glad this whole trio exists on the site right now, keeping us supplied with fresh, excellent runs of games that would not get the time of day otherwise. I've always felt the site should be a repository for the fastest and best TASes of anything, not just a dick measuring contest for how fast you can make a popular Nintendo character move, and without these three we would have a lot less of the former variety and a lot more of the latter "get the yardstick, I saved 3 frames".
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TMK.
As far as I can remember, Tyler Kehne was the mastermind behind the SM64 moat skip, and to me that's a massive accomplishment worthy of some sort of accolade.
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Nach wrote:
I was not referring to you. Various people in the thread resorted to calling grassini names, and they should not.
You were quoting me and directly addressing that quote when you said that. It's a wee bit difficult for me not to assume that you were not referring to me.
That's not even the issue at hand, though.
Nach wrote:
I don't think those are personal attacks either. However complaining about Mothrayas' moderating when all he asked was people to not do name calling is uncalled for.
He asked me specifically to not do any name calling, despite me using a single inoffensive term while other people were more off-base with their remarks. That kind of biased behavior is precisely what's uncalled for. I don't mind being moderated, I know damn well what I do wrong and I'm willing to accept the consequences, but I do mind if I'm the only one being moderated in a situation where I'm not the only one who is in the wrong. This is not the first time this has happened in my time on this site. In fact, I would go as far as to say the number of times it's happened is approaching double digits by now.
Mothrayas has been far more impartial since my statements and the statements of others, so I have nothing to complain about anymore. I think his moderation is absolutely fine, now. Yours, on the other hand...
Nach wrote:
I don't see a single post of his where he mentions so and so on TASVideos is such and such. You don't like what he's saying. I don't like what he's saying. So what? If you find yourself being attacked by what he's saying (but it cannot be personally, because he hasn't mentioned you by name in any of it), then you're intentionally deciding to place yourself within whatever ridiculous construct he's framing.
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He has called *you* none of those things.
If you find remarks like "the hypocritical left..." to be personally referring to you, the problem is with you who are deciding to label yourself as whoever the "the hypocritical left" are. If you believe you are not a hypocritical person, then you cannot be part of "the hypocritical left".
Okay, let's try this on for size: I think the administration of this site is awful.
Oh, no, you can't be offended by that statement, because I didn't call YOU awful. I just called the administration of this site awful. If you're offended, then you're intentionally placing yourself in that group, and you're in the wrong for doing so, because what I just said wasn't a personal attack according to you. Pay no mind to the fact that you are explicitly a part of this group, and pay no mind to the fact that my statement is just a sweeping generalization of the entire site administration, which is guaranteed to include you. It's still not a personal attack against you, so you shouldn't be offended by it.
Do you see where I'm coming from, now? Is there really any difference between attacking someone personally and attacking a group that said person belongs to? No, there isn't. By your logic, someone could come in here and say "White people deserve to die" and no one is allowed to be offended by it because it's not a personal attack. It only targets well over half of our demographic, it's nothing personal! The fact that his comments are targeting the entire "lefty liberal" population means that I would have to change the entirety of my political ideals in order to not classify myself as part of the demographic he's insulting.
Nach wrote:
That's a religious mindset, to find great offense in someone disliking what you like.
Instead of "not taking kindly" because you "supported", instead disprove so called trafficking ring.
Here, I'll do it for you: http://www.snopes.com/pizzagate-conspiracy/
So it took all of 10 seconds to Google that link, one of the many times Pizzagate has been completely disproven, et cetera, et cetera. Why is it wrong for me or anyone else to think it's a completely futile effort to argue with someone who still vehemently believes it? The only reason I think anyone would even continue to mention it after all this time is either provocation or utter idiocy, and I'm choosing to take the high road by assuming it's provocation. This should be picked up by the moderation staff and dealt with accordingly.
Moth said it himself earlier: grassini's statements are "confrontational" and more or less directed at people as opposed to ideas. If you want this thread to be about topics VS topics, then you need to stop EVERYONE trying to attack ANYONE, regardless of who they are or whether or not they're participating in the thread.
And it's not about him "disliking what I like". He's intentionally spreading and defending misinformation. If someone had come in here and fabricated a story that Trump raped and murdered a child or something just as ridiculous, I would be just as appalled and offended by that spreading of misinformation. It doesn't matter who it's targeting or whether or not I agree with the targeted person. Ridiculous statements like that should not be tolerated, especially ones that are so easily disproven.
Nach wrote:
I do not know why you find it heavy handed to ask people to be civil to one another. People should be civil to one another.
Because you're not asking EVERYONE to be civil. If you were asking EVERYONE to be civil, I would not be complaining, but literally your only responses in this thread so far have been toward me, despite you saying the contrary earlier. The heavy-handed part of it is that in your opinion, out of everyone in this thread, I am apparently the only one who is acting out of line. I am the one who has received the brunt of the warnings so far when all I had done is implied that someone may be trying to get a rise out of me.
You saw it as a much better use of your time to systematically deconstruct and combat my posts defending myself as opposed to, oh I don't know, telling grassini to tone down on his aggressive remarks and provocations, which you yourself admitted several times were "ridiculous" and "outrageous", yet at no point did you ever make a move to tell him to cut it out. By doing this, you're telling him his behavior is perfectly acceptable, which is basically ensuring that the thread is going to keep spiraling further and further downward, deeper and deeper into the personal attacks you're apparently working so hard to prevent.
Nach wrote:
Please do not confuse not moderating ridiculous non-personal remarks with unfair moderation.
Please moderate those ridiculous remarks and prove that it is fair moderation, then. I should not feel like the moderation staff is personally targeting and attacking me.
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Nach wrote:
I think you're looking too much for an affront just because you are disagreeing with someone. As Mothrayas said, please stick to debating the various points, not attacking people, moderators or otherwise.
I've said nothing but "grassini is being more aggressive than anyone else", "I think Warp is intentionally provoking me" and "I think Mothrayas' moderation may be influenced by bias." I don't understand how any of these can be construed as personal attacks, especially when compared to everything grassini has said so far. All I'm saying is that if you're going to punish me for "personal attacks", you have to punish him in turn for those actual personal attacks. I don't exactly take kindly to being called paranoid, aggressive, and a hypocrite, and I really don't take kindly to him insinuating that the candidate I supported runs a child sex trafficking ring.
But over everything else, I don't take kindly to their actions being defended and mine being moderated. Like I said, if such heavy-handed moderation is going to be used, it has to be equally applied to both parties. Otherwise you may as well just re-name this thread to "The Trump Appreciation Safe Space and Meme Zone (No Paranoid Hypocrite Liberals Allowed)" so no one else mistakes this place for having fair moderation.
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There's disagreeing with something and then there's beating people over the head with your disagreement until they agree just to shut you up. Take a moment to reflect on your actions and your experiences with the site and categorize yourself accordingly.
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Mothrayas wrote:
You can criticize someone's discourse without calling them names. Just focus on the discourse, and ignore whatever isn't. If the discourse itself is worthless, then you can make that clear without going on about the poster.
Dude, I know you're pro-Trump and all, but even you have to realize that grassini's the most aggressive personal attacker in the thread right now. Every single post he's made has been nothing but liberal-bashing provocation, and the fact that you're not even bothering to address him with this heavy-handed moderation shows your bias. If you're going to moderate this thread, do it fairly. Don't just pick on the side you disagree with.
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grassini wrote:
(pro-trump picture)
Cool, good one, nice meme. Also, completely not at all how anyone rational thinks. Anybody with half a brain* knows that the election wasn't directly hacked by anyone, Russian or otherwise. The real issue is that it has been proven that the Democrats were hacked, which lead to leaked information that completely damned Hillary Clinton, and someone could easily argue that these leaks persuaded a lot of voters over to Trump's side.
*"anyone with half a brain" is still only about 25% of Americans
That someone is not going to be me, because arguing with anyone who even slightly supports Trump would be like bashing my head into a brick wall until I cracked my skull open, but I do firmly believe that these leaks were basically the final nails in the coffin for Clinton.
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Desyncs are usually not the fault of tastudio, but of the core.
If it helps, I've gotten a few desyncs across multiple cores (it's happened on Genesis, NES, and SNES so far), and as far as I can tell it's specific to TAStudio and how it handles greenzone. I don't have a proper example, sadly, but I can try to describe it.
I'll do a section and jump back to where I started, play everything through and it works just fine, but if I replay the movie from the beginning (or anywhere outside the original greenzone) it desyncs. Going back to the original greenzone will load in the "correct" version and it will play normally.
It's rare and inconsistent (it only happened maybe 3 times across all of working on Gunstar Heroes and maybe once per movie before that, if at all), I don't know what causes it to happen, and I've only really dealt with it by watching the run from the beginning after each TASing session in order to make sure everything syncs, but it's happened across so many cores that I'm almost positive it has to do with TAStudio.
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I'm basically at wit's end with hard drives: I had a WD external drive that basically died within a year of buying it, where literally the only way I was able to interact with it was to unplug it, plug it in to a different computer, then unplug it from that computer and back into the first one. My current PC shipped with a Toshiba internal drive that died literally less than 3 months after getting it, which I replaced with a Seagate that thankfully lasted a little over a year before dying.
Basically, do some research and find which drives have the lowest failure rates: HGST seems to be the best choice in terms of reliability, it's what I went with to replace that Seagate, but that was only at the beginning of the month so I can't really vouch for how reliable it is yet. You should be able to find a recovery specialist somewhere if you're willing to shell out a ton of money for it, I've generally had bad luck with recovery software so I wouldn't recommend going that route unless you find something you're confident with.
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I really don't understand. 8/0/0 can't be Vault, this 100%.
Lack of interest is also a factor in Vault tiering, even if a run gets 100% Yes votes. This got less than one vote a day over 10 days, despite being a short-ish movie done by a site admin that had an encode immediately available upon submission. That's pretty telling in terms of the site not having much interest over it, not to mention what I already wrote about the thread feedback being particularly weak as well.
Trust me, there have been plenty of laughable mistiers recently. This one was pretty sound, in my opinion.
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There isn't a whole lot of overly positive feedback: "More entertaining than the movie, but that's not saying much", "as usual, a Yes", et cetera. Even 8 Yes votes is low when there's been over a week since submission, meaning the general audience isn't interested in the run. Vault makes sense.
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I would recommend cancelling and redoing the submission using the advice you've received. You wouldn't want a rejected movie on your record so early on.
The best advice I can give is to just try as many things as you possibly can, don't just take the first result you get. Use frame advance, keep trying to do things faster, save and load state frequently, and only present a new submission when you are absolutely sure there is no more time to be saved. It may take doing and redoing the movie several times until you reach that result, but that's just what TASing is.
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Give reasons why the site should go through the trouble of setting up and managing a Discord server.
As far as I can tell, the only effort required in setting up a Discord server would be reprogramming TVA as a Discord bot. Actually setting up the server wouldn't be any trouble at all, I don't think.
Asking if the site "needs" a Discord server is a loaded question. The discussion has to be about which one is better, because the discussion is about possibly migrating from one to the other. It makes no sense to ask why the site needs a Discord server, because it doesn't. There's IRC, nothing else is strictly needed, but that shouldn't be used as an excuse to not explore any alternatives. I don't personally care much for Discord at the moment (though all the critical features I want are in active development), but I can still see a lot of good and not a lot of bad in setting up a server:
It'd probably be easier to manage than IRC, or at least moderation would be more straightforward than "wait until a situation escalates, give yourself Op, attempt to calm the situation, fail, don't do anything anyway".
If people are abandoning IRC left and right in favor of Discord, then maybe an official site server would attract more people, specifically active people that can keep conversations going constantly as opposed to having 18 hours of silence, followed by a 3 hour discussion about Linux or Super Metroid, followed by 24 hours of silence.
There wouldn't be any issues with netsplits, or page after page of nothing but joins/parts, cutting down on spam and other useless content. Mobile and web access would be a lot easier for people away from their home computers.
Setting up team projects would be a lot more convenient, since everyone's going to use Discord anyway and tabbing back and forth between the team project on Discord and the main chat on IRC sounds like a major hassle.
Someone more familiar with Discord would have to explain any other benefits it has over IRC.
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There's really no point to rating movies anymore. It's a broken and nebulous system that people are clearly abusing for personal gain and I doubt it's ever going to be properly fixed.
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Canvas Curses loses its wow factor fairly quickly in my opinion. The main glitch makes it far more entertaining than a run without it would be, but it removes a lot of the variety that would have come from actually needing to deal with each stage.
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The effect made it hard to read, but this just transliterates to "Cutter Boomerang".
γ«γγΏγΌ γγΌγ‘γ©γ³ kattaa buumeran
This is just onomatopoeia for a bomb ticking down and then exploding, with the smaller text below being the echo effect.
γγ₯γ«γ«γ«γ« hyururururu
γγ«γΌγ³ dokaan
Different translators are giving me different results for the top line (Google Translate says "I am finished" while Rikaikun says something more like "I have arrived"). Translation software is iffy, though, so you shouldn't take either of these as fact. The huge bit in red just transliterates to "Hand Power", though, followed by a desu, which is just desu. Bottom line is actual Japanese and is thus entirely out of my field of knowledge. Why am I even in this section of the site?
γγ¦γΎγ kitemasu
γγ³γγγ―γΌ handopawaa
Given a bit more time, I can write everything out for machine translation at the very least, but you'd be better off waiting for someone who actually knows what they're talking about.