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So, I decided to share my result.
https://github.com/WST/tas/raw/master/third-party/scheroes.gmv
The most important thing about this improvement is the fact that you shouldn’t always follow the most obvious and most traditional routes when the physics are changed so much…
By the way, I also improved Green Hill Zone act 2, once again with very little efforts; I wonder if I should turn this into a project for a new submission :)
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Hi, ShiningProdigy!
I really loved watching your run! But…
What if I say that I have just made Green Hill Zone more than a second faster in a very quick attempt with a cup of coffee? =D
But well, I am still going to vote Yes, because I certainly find the run entertaining.
Just for your interest… I wonder if I should share the gmv? :)
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Looks quite good for me, but I didn’t try to improve it.
My only question would be about CNZ2 boss: is it really worthy to waste time to collect some extra rings before the boss to turn hyper there? I highly doubt if it saves more time than it wasted.
Also, this game actually allows 3P mode (when you control all three characters at the same time), but I assume this is an 1P mode run.
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I know some of you always felt uncomfortable seeing Doctor Eggman run faster than Sonic (Knuckles, Amy, …) in the final boss zone of Sonic 2 and it’s hacks, so I decided to make a short video showing how it looks if you actually get ahead of him :-D
Link to video
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The author of this hack is a TASvideos member & TASer marzojr, better to ask him if the hack is finished or not.
As about the quality of the run itself, all I can say is that it looks very improveable for my eye…
We (Sonic TASers) have invited mr CyanTheGamerhog01 into our Discord community so they can learn and improve.
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You can edit your previous post instead of posting a new one :)
As I told, my run is quite a quick attempt. In this game it is very important to keep your eye on the direction buttons and when to press/unpress them. It’s all because of the air & ground speed cap. It’s especially annoying during the jumps from running state, when your speed goes above 1536 for some frames, but soon drops below, and you need to “catch” that exact moment and start pressing the direction button. I didn't really go for it, and still got a better time. But your run is also very good for a first TAS, I have to admit it.
Honestly Sonic 1 & Sonic 2 (and their hacks) are probably not the best ones for the first attempt. Sonic 3, S3&K and their hacks are a lot easier to TAS, I would better recommend them for the practice.
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Well, I love how the special stages are done, looks well optimized for me. But the same question again, what’s the goal of going for the emeralds? What does it change? Voting Meh.
(upd) as I’m listed as a co-author, I probably shouldn’t vote here, but as this is a derived project, based on mine & marzojr’s run, but without my direct participation, I decided to vote.
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Archanfel wrote:
Отличная находка! Сейчас правда на ТАС совсем нет свободного времени... но в средне-дальней перспективе обязательно планирую вернуться.
Так что если еще что потенциально полезное по Комикс Зоне найдется, то тащите это сюда буду рад об этом знать, что бы во второй заход на Зону не упустить ни единой мелочи.
Есть новости? Ждать новый TAS?
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Honestly, I didn’t really enjoy watching this. It just doesn’t differ enough from the any% TAS, and the only noticeable difference (the special stages) is quite boring to watch.
Metropolis 1 does not use the recently discovered level-wrap. Wing Fortress zone is messed up, especially the boss fight. You shouldn’t fall into the boss room, staying inside the ceiling is an important time saver. In AIZ, up-loop jumps are missing, the nesessary rolling in the loops is missing, glide-landing during the down-loop jump is also missing. With all of that, you’d build much greater speed from the loops. Zurggriff’s run is an example of brilliant, Aglar-standard optimization. The additions are just not as good.
Personally I would prefer watching an improvement of the ring attack of this game. I tried some places and found many improvements, though I am lazy to do the whole game.
ShiningProdigy9000 wrote:
Yes but even with super Knuckles, the fastest routes don't include him (except for sky chase and EHZ 1 boss)
You are wrong, going Super does not save time on EHZ boss. It’s already frame-perfect.
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How to perform the ARZ2 boss pause trick? Is it based on watching the PLC queue pointer, like in Sonic 1?
If so, can anyone give me the RAM address?
(upd) I have found this, which is very useful. Already discovered the P1 status address (0xFFB022), which can be used, for example, to determine if the player 1 is dead. Will return to the ARZ2 boss later.
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Atsu, your run looks very good, hope to see more from you.
I am now trying Sonic 2 Pink Edition with Cream, having some trouble trying to perform a “monitor madness” as Cream, I wonder if it can be impossible because of her smaller hitbox.
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It’s nice that TASing flash games is now finally possible.
I remember a game called Ultimate Flash Sonic, hope someday it gets some attention ^^
(if not, I’ll probably try it myself)
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Yeah, I’d be happy if you manage to beat the MGZ boss. For now the problem is not that it takes longer than usual, but that it makes Tails want to sleep instead of finishing the act =D
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I use Github for gmv versioning. But I can share my current gmv, here it is.
http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/1151637665/Sonic%203%20Master%20Edition%202%20DLC%20Gens%20Version.gmv
Keep in mind that it’s not much optimized, most improvement comes from very different routes and strategies. You may want to redo it.
I also need help with the MGZ boss, I would kindly ask marzojr or whoever can help, to explain me what’s the trick about that boss. I remember successfully beating that boss myself many times in the past, but it seems I completely forgot the right way of doing it, I only remember it‘s kind of tricky.
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I’ve made a quick test run of Sonic 3 Master Edition 2 DLC with Knuckles.
Sadly, I’ve stucked in MGZ because I forgot how to beat the boss (I remember it’s tricky but I forgot the exact reason why the level doesn’t end after destroying the capsule).
Could anyone help me?
Link to videoAtsu wrote:
Hi, I want to present a little TAS (Work in progress) to Sonic Megamix (v4.0b) using Shadow, in this case.
Just playing in Sunset Hill and no collect emeralds (for now). So, here upload the video that show this progress :)
Wow, your run looks very fast! How’s the progress, are you still working on it?
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I was going to try improving your AIZ, because I had a feeling that I could do it, but I couldn’t open your link. Could you please reupload your gmv to the microstorage?
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DreamYao wrote:
Thank you for your vote! I think "aglar" has done it perfectly. It's also the third time I've made TAS, and I've done what I can.
Aglar is a very very expert player, the Ronaldo and Messi* of TAS :)
Definetely not the best choice to try improving their run.
Try improving someone else, usually it’s way easier, and you can gain experience to return to improving Aglar someday :)
* 2 in 1
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