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Well besides, it isn't bad technically. It's actually very good both at planning and execution. It's just that the game isn't too spectacular to watch.
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…what :D (Why, thank you!)
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Yes, though you'll have to admit it's very game-specific. I posted either information, though.
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Post subject: Re: What are your TASing techniques?
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CtrlAltDestroy wrote:
Yes, it's this topic again. How do you have your hotkeys arranged for TASing? And how do you use them?
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Spacecow wrote:
I really like the music that plays when you're in HyperSpace.
Be sure to check this excellent remix then.
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Wow. You manage to preserve the game's versatility in every one of its aspects. This is really, really good stuff.
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My first real TAS attempt was a certain part of NES Metroid 100% run WIP, that was put on hold by both me and Brushy. I managed to discover a strategy in the 3rd room that neither of the published runs use, but looking at it now, I know for sure that I could improve the entire WIP further with tools more up-to-date than simple frame counter + frame advance combo. My second serious attempt was Super Metroid: Redesign WIP where I decided to use everything available and strived for subpixel precision in all rooms starting from the room before the Brinstar elevator. I've decided that if I continue it, it will be restarted with much greater precision from the very beginning (so I went improving it and gained 12 more frames, haha).
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First (surprisingly) yes vote. I haven't played SCII much nor have I had a chance to beat it back when it was more… uh… present-day (didn't have own computer back then), but it's clear to me that this run is nicely planned and executed. I've almost forgot how good the music in this game is. What now, Master of Orion? :P
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ZeXr0 wrote:
Just to make a clear distinction for those who are new to the forum
You know, I would imply that a person who writes "using TAS methods, a perfect run could be created in each level", assuming they're sane, at least understands what "TAS methods" are. However, it doesn't automatically imply they would know what particular tools we use to TAS.
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5 seconds faster? Wow, that's nice. Seems like 2-p won't even be slower than 1-p in any part. :]
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Both of you succeeded in degrading the discussion, thanks.
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It wasn't. IIRC, it was Xkeeper who voted no on hero's TAS, and he voted yes on this.
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Valid point. Though some (if not most?) people still play for ego. However, even considering that, I'd like to quote myself for clarity:
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But its main goal as I see it is to encourage TASing activity and production quality.
(…Not to encourage playing for ego. Though it might help those who do.)
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I can see a problem with that, in devaluating the opinion of a player of "lesser rank", so it should be noted separately and not encouraged in any case. Either way, I still think the possible advantages outweigh the possible disadvantages.
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Fabian wrote:
I'm not in a Warpesque mood at the moment, so instead of restating everything that's been said I'll just say that I agree with JXQ and point you to his post instead. But to sum up, ranks (or titles) = crap, kinda stupid, and unnecessary. And also, [18:23:03] <Fabian_> so about this forum rank [18:23:13] <Fabian_> let's put everything else aside for a second and just focus on this point: [18:24:01] <Fabian_> with this Expert Player forum title avaliable, people who don't have it will suddenly become hugely motivated to produce multiple excellent TASes, to gain this extremely prestigious word "Expert" under their name, on the discussion forum? [18:24:10] <Fabian_> I don't really see this happening [18:24:29] <Fabian_> what I see happening is the following: no one cares I don't mean this in an obnoxious or condescending kinda way, I just think this is what would happen.
I don't see myself dying in a few days, either, though I might be suddenly killed on numerous different occasions even while going out on a walk, as it sometimes happens. The point being that until something happens, you can't be sure what would be the result. Also, "no-one cares"? The hell?.. People care about recognition of players who contributed many wonderful runs, as you can see in the topic I linked to in the first post. You see people caring about existing runs. Some people will care, anyway. Would it hurt if the achievements will be rewarded (or at least recognized)? I don't think so. As I said, at least some people will be encouraged to reach a new goal, so why not give it to them. Also, think about it the other way: the western society puts considerable significance into career and self-advancement, but without any ways to aspire, would there be any point in such thing, at all?
Kyrsimys wrote:
This is completely unrelated to this thread. The point I was trying to make is that I think ranks should not be something people strive for. In my opinion they should be informative and help new users see who has done what on the site.
One doesn't deny the other. Also, I see no problem with people striving for ranks — if they're doing it by contributing things valuable to community, that is.
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laughing_gas wrote:
To me, veteran player sounds a bit better than expert player.
Veteran player sounds ok to me. Another idea would be to encourage quality of the runs with one rank ("expert" or what have you), and the large number of runs which are on par with "expert" quality with another. For example: • 5+ runs (no matter what game) with quality calculated using Baxter's formula = "expert"; • 10+ runs with that quality = "veteran".
mmbossman wrote:
Something I've wondered about for some time is finalfighter having a rank of Master Ninja. Why only him, and how is that any different than Ninja? I have no problem with a very few select people having a Ninja ranking (although a better definition may be needed), and I agree with a expert/veteran/pimp (ha ha) player ranking, but Master Ninja? Sorry, I just don't get that one.
Yeah, that is a common question. It's hard to explain it, really, because there's no explanation that would suit anyone.
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Baxter wrote:
I do have a suggestion to avoid all of these problems, use this formula:
Yeah, I like that idea because it would help players whose average rating is bogged down by the outdated runs (oftenly produced prior to implementation of tools crucial to success).
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Phil, Genisto, Nitsuja and all those people who have (or will have) custom ranks are obviously exempted from the list. Regarding the number of movies: perhaps so. But note, that the players in the table above already have at least 7 people as well.
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Kyrsimys wrote:
So are we supposed to believe that this is a complete coincidence? ;)
Bisqwit was once a self-proclaimed ninja, but it was him who granted that rank to other players. It isn't surprising that people who contribute much (and contribute good) to the site discuss rewards for others' contribution, too.
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Today Baxter, adelikat, JXQ and I were discussing user ranks, and there was a point that we currently have only two ninjas (a rank that is granted selectively and subjectively, although hardly arguable in the light of each ninja's achievements), and a whole lot of simple players ("active player" is just a forum rank, it doesn't mean the user is active as a player, rather that they're active on the forums). So some of us decided it would be kind of neat to give people another interesting goal to strive for in TASing, so I came up with a bit of technical data and logic base for a possible new rank I'd call "expert player", which is granted semi-automatically (as with "player"), rather than manually (as with "ninja"). Keeping in mind the existance of topics like "I call for a Top 10 All-Time TAS authors list!", it would also give a simple and open way to reward the most active and thorough TASers (see below). But its main goal as I see it is to encourage TASing activity and production quality. The semi-arbitrary criteria for being an expert player would be • having an amount of published non-obsoleted runs of different games more or equal to 5; • having an average tech rating on all the published non-obsoleted runs (including runs of the same game) more or equal to 7.5. Rationale. Having a great number of runs is one of the main criteria to show that you're indeed able to TAS and have experience in TASing. However, having lots of runs of the same games wouldn't show diversity (making you an expert of one game, rather all-round expert), hence you need to have runs of different games published. I decided not to include the obsoleted runs into picture due to possible difficulties with low confidence rating of the movies obsoleted before rating system became popular (though I agree it might have left some players out of the picture as well, so it's open for discussion). Requirement of an average tech rating is where its subjectivity can help, since it more or less represents the voters' (= community members') opinion on whether any given run is good enough technically (even if it isn't very entertaining, which doesn't tell much about the quality of a TAS at all), and thus, the player's perceived achievents on that part. In short, it can show whether the community thinks the player is a good player — an expert. Since a player is given the expert status, it should not be changed (the amount of published movies can decrease due to obsoletion in the future, but that shouldn't affect the player's actual achievements). To sum up the formula variables to consider: 1) the number of published runs (currently 5); 2) the number of different games been run (currently 5); 3) whether to include obsoleted movies (currently not); 4) the average tech rating to achieve (currently 7.5); 5) how to round numbers; 6) whether to include other variables or exclude existing ones. A small table of player "nominees" based on the number of published solo runs and the formula described above (note that my math can be a little off, so feel free to correct me): adelikat — 16 runs of 15 different games, average tech rating: 139/16=8.7; Walker Boh — 15/13 runs, ATR: 114.2/15=7.6; Randil — 13/13 runs, ATR: 108.9/13=8.4; FODA — 11/11 runs, ATR: 86.3/11=7.9; JXQ — 10/10 runs, ATR: 83.4/10=8.3; Acmlm — 9/9 runs, ATR: 75/9=8.3; Baxter — 8/7 runs, ATR: 68.1/8=8.5; SprintGod — 7/7 runs, ATR: 52.4/7.5; TheAxeMan — 7/7 runs, ATR: 55.6/7=7.9. Discuss. :)
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You're free to start. :D
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There's a lot of things to consider before changing the site's orientation like that, including the fact that being published on TASVideos is not the main criterion for others to be able to watch a run, the fact that the site is maintaining a high standard of quality which keeps adjusting to the modern tools and players' experience with them, and the fact that the site, the bandwidth cost and movie storage service is maintained almost solely by Bisqwit himself.
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Also, your "reliable recording application" is an emulator called FCEU. It's all there in the FAQ.
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Please remove the link to ROM, it's forbidden here. >_>
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