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Kyrsimys wrote:
I also agree with the point that this movie doesn't look very superhuman.
Uh... crossing a pit by jumping from a trashcan that the other player threw doesn't look superhuman to you?
Your other points I agree with, (except that I never watched chamale's run so I can't say which entertains me better)
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DarkKobold wrote:
I thought we were trying to avoid using 'subjective' things like entertainment to judge a movie.
Actually, if you notice the poll question is "did you enjoy watching this movie?" That is a pretty subjective standard. And if you read through the FAQ (I think that's where it was anyway), Bisqwit says that he would use entertainment as the obsoletion criterion if he felt he could judge it fairly.
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AKA wrote:
Perhaps the yes voters should try and justify there votes. Looking at the thread most don't make any real justifications, nor the fact there is another run thats better in both aspects of speed and entertainment. Also, are you admitting that your secret agenda is to hound people for voting no? An issue like this should not carry into other topics.
I hope for your sake that you are deliberately trolling now, because I would feel very sorry for you if this was your idea of rational arguement.
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Are you admiting your vote is partially based on another thread and the author of the movie.
No. I am asking you how you justify making such a blatant lie. Because you clearly state in that post the reason for your no vote, and it has nothing to do with the movie content. Yet you clearly state here that you only judge movies based on their content. Which is the truth?
PS: I notice that you keep dodging any requests that you justify the "pride movie" accusation you made there, or reconcile the "voting no because this is a pride movie" with "I only vote based on movie contents."
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Plus you've only ever voted no to all my movies as far as I can tell. Should I really care about you anymore?
I am fairly certain I voted yes on some of the Mario64 improvements.
Though I certainly would not have if I allowed my vote to be influenced by my opinion of the run's author.
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AKA wrote:
I tested not taking damage in each area and it very much is slower to do so, I reckon its 15-20 seconds faster overall to take damage than to not take it.
I don't care if it's slower, damage is really really annoying to watch in quackshot and this movie would be much more entertaining if you took no damage than the way it currently is.
I got all over Cardboard's case about just dashing through enemies when he first improved Castlevania: Circle of the Moon, because I felt it was a huge loss to entertainment for a minor gain to speed. That is even more true for this game.
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I liked the concept of a TAS run that doesn't aim for time in the least, just plays around with the game and does fun things, but I'm not sure this is all that it could be. River City Ransom seems like it has a great deal of playaround potential that went unused here in favor of player 1 and player 2 beating each other up and making a hurricane of glitched graphics.
I did appreciate the bit where you stopped and played baseball for a bit, and some of the other interesting stuff you did with carried objects, but all-in-all this fell quite a bit short of my expectations, and was kind of boring and repetetive for a significant portion of the movie. I'm afraid I have to vote no.
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Comicalflop wrote:
Zurreco wrote:
AKA wrote:
This movie is nothing more than a pride movie playing for ego so 'no' vote.
You are a cancer.
Then I wonder what that makes you, as generally you uphold that definition the most among any of the members here.
Zurreco has redeeming qualities like intelligence, comedy, speaking truth to power, helping to improve the community of this site when possible. He also makes runs on games that he thinks are quirky and underrated, and would like.
AKA, on the other hand, I haven't seen make a run on a game that he didn't think was popular, and a sure-way to get the run published, even though he's been wrong a few times. AKA also tends to complain about other runs for a variety of bizarre reasons, act mean for no reason whatsoever, and whine when he isn't getting enough attention.
Also, I haven't seen him exhibit any of the redeeming qualities I listed for Zurreco.
AKA wrote:
This movie is nothing more than a pride movie playing for ego so 'no' vote.
A pride movie is a movie that the author believes is sure to be published and bring positive attention to him/her, like "Oh, you did Super Mario 1-star, you're so awesome!!!!". This movie is a movie that is less-likely than normal to be published, may bring significant negative attention to the authors whether or not it's published, and if published will serve only to entertain people, rather than show off how much better they are at TASing than the prior authors.
So basically, this movie is the exact opposite of a pride movie.
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I watched this run, and I'm voting no because "takes damage to save time" is really, really annoying to watch in this game, especially considering how little time it saves. In fact, there are a couple places in this run where it looks like it would have been faster to wait a moment or two than to take damage, because of the extremely long recovery time.
I haven't seen the movie this would obsolete, but I imagine I would have voted "no" on those as well.
Comicalflop wrote:
Fabian wrote:
That said, this is a pride movie played for ego so I'm voting no.
I'd really like to see some justification for this. I swear on my honor I will similarly vote no if you can prove it.
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kbxcomix wrote:
cheese guy here
american
You should be aware that "american cheese" is not actually cheese. In the same way that "head cheese" is not actually cheese. American cheese does not contain, nor ever has contained, any sort of dairy product at all. Instead, it is made from lard. That's right, they take pure, raw, animal fat and put a bunch of chemicals on it and then slice it up and cover it with wax paper, and that is what American cheese is.
Although, actually, it isn't even that anymore. One of the American Orthodox Jewish consumer groups complained to Kraft that lard isn't Kosher, so now American cheese is made out of artificial animal fat.
So, you might want to think about what you're eating and how likely it is to cause cancer next time you pick some up.
PS:
My favorite cheese is Habanero Cheddar, but I can't find any place around here that sells it, so I make do with swiss cheese as a not-too-distant second.
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Bisqwit wrote:
What does "going Out Of Bounds" mean? Does it refer to game code corruption, or just abusing wall clipping (i.e. collision detection)?
He probably means level bounds -- in the HL2 engine, it is possible to go outside the defined level area if you can get above/around/through certain walls.
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mwl wrote:
MQ wouldn't be allowed to replace the current OoT run anyway. It's a different game.
This is sort of like saying that Half-Life is a different game from Half-Life: Game of the Year edition. Maybe a few things work slightly differently, but it is 98% the same material.
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Jet wrote:
What an incredibly petty reason to vote no for. However, I would not expect so much from a person born after 1990 and who didn't play the game when it came out.
Wait, hang on. When the question is "were you entertained by this movie", being bored by the movie is a "petty" reason to vote no?
erokky wrote:
is upthorn a person born after 1990 and who didn't play the game when it came out?
No, and yes, respectively. I think I do remember seeing it mentioned in gaming magazines around that time, but it never looked interesting to me then, and it certainly looks rather boring now. I do realize that the author did his best to try to prevent it from looking boring, but that was well beyond the author's abilities.
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Zurreco wrote:
Oddly enough, this is one of the only games to actually have negative retail rates...
That... doesn't strike me as odd at all. (as per my comments in the first thread).
This improvement fixes my most major complaint about technical perfection of the TAS, but my complaints about technical perfection still pale greatly in comparison to my complaints about the game being boring to watch. Voting no on this one... again.
Sorry.
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Dwedit wrote:
I had first run it on Gens 9f (which was the latest version I saw in the first post of the release thread, someone is lazy and needs to edit that post to include the newer 95b).
It does the same desync in both versions. Maybe there is added lag due to higher accuracy.
Jyzero abandoned Gens and (as far as I know) the only other person who can edit the first post of that thread is Bisqwit. This is why I recommend using http://tasvideos.org/EmulatorHomepages.html instead -- that page can be kept up to date by an interested editor, regardless of who is currently doing work on the emulator.
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FractalFusion wrote:
It seems that everyone wants to use v19. As far as I know, only one submission has ever used v20.
Is there a good reason not to use v20? Or did everyone start 3 or 4 GBx TASes altogether before v20 came out?
People prefer not to use v20 because the echo ram fix wasn't the only change, v20 has more lag it seems, and frame advance behaves in a manner that is difficult to get used to.
(These are the things that have been said in every prior discussion where continued use of v19 was brought up)
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Bisqwit wrote:
your attitude has been recently less than constructive.
I am just wanting to make certain that you understand that "undesired by the administration" is not the same thing as "nonconstructive".
In fact, if the administration is behaving nonconstructively, the only constructive thing to do is to oppose them and try to show them that their behavior is the opposite of helpful.
The best thing the administration can do in this situation is try to understand the complaint and determine whether or not it is reasonable. It may not always be, but it will be most of the time.
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I, too, have mentioned to Bisqwit about the possible usefulness of a specific-user ignore feature for this forum, as a means to significantly decrease unnecessary conflict between users who simply fail to get along. I never got a solid reply, though.
But if an admin wanted to make a useful modification to the forum code, this one would surely be useful, where size-tag moderation and signature-squelching were largely not.
After all, not everyone uses firefox.
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