The final frame seems to be 17868. At this frame you touch the axe and all objects disappear (on the frame 17869 everything appears again and then the bridge destruction starts).
Unfortunately, it provides no improvement over HappyLee's TAS which also reaches this condition on the frame 17868.
It was not about time improvement, it was about improvement of subpixels or inside-framerule frames. I knew that there is not time save in final time.
Me and GasterStreams still working on it and we need help with 8-2 plant despawn. HappyLee said it needs 3 bullet bills on same frame. Which RNG adresses we need to manipulate to get it?
Asumeh, I made video of your 10 walljumps TAS for youtube, there is no video of it on youtube, so I hope you are not against. You can reupload it to yure channel if you want. The reason, why I'm writing here, is that I don't really know other ways to contact you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73MOjKAv4yM&feature=youtu.be
Here is my .fm3 compliation of perfect subpixel optimization for any% TAS everywhere. It can be easily transformed to .fm2. I'm not sure if 8-2 plant despawn possible on perfect framerule, so it can be unbeatable, what you think? https://www.dropbox.com/s/te2xkluo5u87cuj/ultimate.fm3?dl=0
I just founded myself combination for fast mushroom grab in 1-3 to accelerate to full speed after it, done in WR and MrWint's TAS and it is literally hardest thing that I done so far. It is A LOT harder then even optimizng 8-4 turnaround. And as I already knew that it is possible, it was even easier for me then for me then to discover it from zero. I'm writing this post, because there is no much about it in WR submission, because it was probably easier then some other things, lol, but for people to know - it is not obvious at all to save 1-3 framerule.
Thank you for the work, HappyLee and MrWint!
I'm doing my own SMB warpless TAS now, trying to found this things myself and I know that this ones are more then deserving star tier. I have no idea about other games.
feos wrote:
zdoroviy_antony wrote:
Why this http://tasvideos.org/1962M.html and this http://tasvideos.org/3665M.html movies not having star tier? They are surely desrved it, by both speed and eterainment, even if they had been beaten. I mean SMB warpless is one of the hardest categories for WR TAS and 18:38.22 stayed for 6 years and was very optimized, when MrWint's movie beat that movie that stayed 6 years.
Are you planning to go through all 1172 obsoleted Moons movies and check which of them deserve a star? Are you suggesting featuring obsoleted starred movies on the Front Page? I don't think starring obsoleted movies retroactively helps anyone in any way.
I'm doing my own SMB warpless TAS now, trying to found this things myself and I know that this ones are more then deserving star tier. I have no idea about other games.
feos wrote:
zdoroviy_antony wrote:
Why this http://tasvideos.org/1962M.html and this http://tasvideos.org/3665M.html movies not having star tier? They are surely desrved it, by both speed and eterainment, even if they had been beaten. I mean SMB warpless is one of the hardest categories for WR TAS and 18:38.22 stayed for 6 years and was very optimized, when MrWint's movie beat that movie that stayed 6 years.
Are you planning to go through all 1172 obsoleted Moons movies and check which of them deserve a star? Are you suggesting featuring obsoleted starred movies on the Front Page? I don't think starring obsoleted movies retroactively helps anyone in any way.
Why this http://tasvideos.org/1962M.html and this http://tasvideos.org/3665M.html movies not having star tier? They are surely desrved it, by both speed and eterainment, even if they had been beaten. I mean SMB warpless is one of the hardest categories for WR TAS and 18:38.22 stayed for 6 years and was very optimized, when MrWint's movie beat that movie that stayed 6 years.
Can somebody confirm is it new WR or what? Down press 1 frame earlier in walljump room, but idk what it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sJ6oexgfZQ
Edit: Looks like cheating and I feel like it already happened before
That 7-4 was absolutely great, even if nobody will read this comment, I hope that good enough TAS of this category will be done. I think, at least some fast accels can be better.
Yes, my youtube channel was just deleted completely. I don't know why, I hope it was not because of the link to the google drive in the comment, but it could be so.
Posting this message again.
PLEASE REPLACE THE MOVIE BY THE ONE WITH CORRECT LENGTH, EVEN IF THIS GONNA BE CHANCELLED OR REJECTED. I WANT CORRECT SUBMISSION FOR NO LEFT+RIGHT TAS.
http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/56655800614738568
For people, who said that TAS was done before, I didn't found any good submission like that for RTA rules aka No left+right TAS, so at least it gonna stay there as a submission.
Sadly, in my opinion, this movie doesn't seem to serve a good purpose because of its goal, "no L+R" (arbitrary).
Even though it uses different tricks not seen in the original TAS (like in 1-2 and 4-2), it easily lost its touch due to the goal in play.
Therefore, my vote will be: No
I don't know how can it lost it to the goal of play. The goal is play quick without left+right, which is harder, actually, to get perfect time. So, it makes it even better for me.
I'm not even sure what's the point of making a TAS like this. I'm all for making more unique TASes, but this one seems absolutely no different from the regular warped run.
Voting no.
It is actually completely different in 1st and 3d 8-4 rooms 1-2 clip and turnaround, 4-2 entering pipe and warp zone and fast accelerations. I made this TAS anyway not for this site and it is anyway very challenging, intresting and great for me and for other people too. Submitting it here, because I count it it as unique TAS. A lot is different, when you making it yourself.
Same thing also applies to SMB any% 1-1 and 4-2, where you're just 1 frame away from saving a framerule but probably just not possible.
Interesting, I didn't actually know 4-2 was that close. Your published warped TAS is 13 frames off, and in my testing I could save a couple of frames, but not 12 (the limiting factor mostly being enemies in the way). I might have missed something there, care to point me to an example where it is that close? I'd like to check that out. It's most likely nothing, but maybe we can have our collab TAS after all ;)
MrWint, I know you worked on warps TAS too, so I'm wondering, if inside-framerule frames can be saved in 8-2 by perfect bullet spawn? Also can you, please give me the file of all speed perfection you had for SMB warps TAS, I want to publish all perfections for speed. I think, I have everything, except 8-2. Here is my version https://www.dropbox.com/s/te2xkluo5u87cuj/ultimate.fm3?dl=0
(It was played on modified ROM for information demonstration, but you can simply play it on original ROM)
The problem of 8-2, that it doesn't even include L+R at start for bullet manipulation. I got 1 frame better shot, but it couldn't make me better bullet bill glitch, becuase of "coin toss", if you know what is that. Anyway, I lost this combination, becuase I thought it is not the limit. The only thing I need is a bullet, visible at 12224 frame to hit flagpole 2 frames faster. I think it would surely be a limit on this framerule as small Mario.
Can movie be submitted, if it is not new world record by a time, but same time and more entertaining version, when beat time is most likely not gonna ever happen and author of original time improvement don't want to submit a run, because it is most likely not gonna be accepted? I want to try, because it is cool movie for my opinion.