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Posted: 10/19/2004 2:07 PM
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Nach
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Can't wait :) Enjoying killing your whole family?
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Posted: 10/19/2004 4:59 PM
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Hehe, yes indeedy. The story of this game is actually pretty neat, too bad you won't get to see any of it in the video. =/ Just finished level 9, 3-second improvement w00t w00t! Under 13:00 just *might* be within my grasp yet... -Josh
but then you take my 75 perchance chance of winning, if we was to go one-on-one, and then add 66 and two-thirds ch...percents...i got a 141 and two-thirds chance of winning at sacrifice
Posted: 10/19/2004 10:02 PM
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Nach
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Josh the FunkDOC wrote:
The story of this game is actually pretty neat, too bad you won't get to see any of it in the video. =/
The story is excellent. Also one of the first games to have a story that evolves every level. Good thing I played this game myself, and made save states every level. I actually wanted to do a time attack on this, but I don't have the time or patience.
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Posted: 10/20/2004 8:25 PM
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Level 10 completed, with a 1-second improvement just like the first stage. This means I'll have to improve the last level by 4 seconds to get under 13:00...I'll go ahead and give it a try right now. -Josh
but then you take my 75 perchance chance of winning, if we was to go one-on-one, and then add 66 and two-thirds ch...percents...i got a 141 and two-thirds chance of winning at sacrifice
Posted: 10/21/2004 12:03 AM
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Alright, this baby is done. Check it out in Submissions, and remember that the real time is more like 13:01 than 13:03. -Josh
but then you take my 75 perchance chance of winning, if we was to go one-on-one, and then add 66 and two-thirds ch...percents...i got a 141 and two-thirds chance of winning at sacrifice
Posted: 2/14/2005 9:06 PM
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OK, as I said earlier, I'm improving this. Turns out this game does have a couple useful bugs after all... Just finished level 3 now. Level 1 is 13 frames faster, level 2 87 frames faster, and level 3 69 frames better (no jokes please =P). So that 13:03 should drop to well under 13 when all's said and done. =) -Josh
but then you take my 75 perchance chance of winning, if we was to go one-on-one, and then add 66 and two-thirds ch...percents...i got a 141 and two-thirds chance of winning at sacrifice
Posted: 3/6/2005 7:40 AM
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Did it get published? Why can't I find any place to download your movie?
Posted: 3/6/2005 7:44 AM
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Bag_of_Magic_Food
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I guess he still isn't finished. You can find the old movie here, though.
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Posted: 9/6/2005 5:06 AM
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Hey all...I'm not really interested in making any more movies for the time being. So with that, I will reveal what I have found to improve in this game in case anyone wants to try it. First of all, I didn't use frame advance for my previous movie. Minor improvements are possible on all bosses if you take advantage of it, most notably in level 3 and the driving stages. Minor bug: Say you're running under a platform/ledge/wall/etc. that ends at some point. If you jump so that the back of your sprite touches the end of the ledge, you'll get pushed forward a little bit. This saves a few frames but can be applied in a lot of places. More important bug: If you jump toward a ladder and press B exactly 3 frames (well, either 2 or 3, I forget which) before you grab it, you'll slide down the ladder at normal falling speed. This saves quite a bit of time in quite a few places. That's about it. Under 13 minutes is easily possible, I'd say around 12:55 or something like that would be optimal. -Josh
but then you take my 75 perchance chance of winning, if we was to go one-on-one, and then add 66 and two-thirds ch...percents...i got a 141 and two-thirds chance of winning at sacrifice
Posted: 12/15/2006 5:50 AM
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Hello Hisatoki, I was looking through your Youtube videos and stumbled upon this. Excellent job! =) However, there are some small improvements I can spot. Here they are: 1. If there is a platform/corridor right above you, jump as you reach the end of it and you will receive a minor speed boost. This can be used in levels 2 and 3, and I think you missed it in 3. 2. At the very end of level 3, you fell down the ledge instead of jumping. Jumping should be possible IIRC. 3. The biggest one: The flame your car shoots while shifting gears can damage enemies! This saves a chunk of time against the level 10 boss, as you can hit him even while he's at the bottom of the screen. If you can create an updated version with these corrections, it would make a great replacement for my crappy run of this game on here! Thanks, Josh.
but then you take my 75 perchance chance of winning, if we was to go one-on-one, and then add 66 and two-thirds ch...percents...i got a 141 and two-thirds chance of winning at sacrifice
Posted: 12/15/2006 6:12 AM
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KINGS KNIGHT! oh, ive got to see this... bastard game was nothing but stress back in the day.
Posted: 12/15/2006 7:55 AM
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I don't get it. Was this supposed to be a PM that turned in to a thread somehow?
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Posted: 12/15/2006 1:58 PM
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Josh the FunkDOC wrote:
However, there are some small improvements I can spot.
I did not notice them at all. Especially, I did not have even that conception in Level 10, about boost fire. To tell the truth, I was asked by my friend to play and record the movie of this game. So I didn't put spirit into this, and there are a few parts that can be improved in 5-1, 6-2 ...and other ideas to run faster might exist. However, I want to play and record other games that were requested from my friends. So, if you have free time, I want to leave TAS of this game to you.
Posted: 12/15/2006 2:19 PM
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KINGS KNIGHT! oh, ive got to see this... bastard game was nothing but stress back in the day.
In Japan, "Kings Knight" and "Square no Tom Sawyer" are called "too bad game" and "blot of Square". I think so, too. These games gave me stress. Especially "Square no Tom Sawyer", that genre is RPG. The enemy of this game uses a special attack, its effect is "Game Reset". If you take this attack, you will see the title screen...that's too terrible attack. Square is a great game producer in various meanings...
Posted: 12/15/2006 11:50 PM
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Well, I guess this should have been a PM, but I posted it here in case anybody else had other ideas. I am not especially motivated to make a movie, but maybe sometime I'll feel like doing this one... And thanks for the response Hisatoki, didn't know people request these from you! -Josh
but then you take my 75 perchance chance of winning, if we was to go one-on-one, and then add 66 and two-thirds ch...percents...i got a 141 and two-thirds chance of winning at sacrifice
Posted: 1/25/2010 8:13 PM
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Hey folks. Someone on IRC told me to show this to you people. http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/1129378035/Gun-Dec%20%28Japan%29-0.fm2 (Note: It uses the Japanese version.)
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Posted: 1/26/2010 12:54 AM
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Done with level 2. http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/1404173312/Gun-Dec%20%28Japan%29-0.fm2 Josh's run doent work if converted to fm2. Not even on the US version. Maybe its because of new PPU(Even though that hasnt come out yet XD).
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Posted: 1/26/2010 4:15 AM
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Why are you using the J version?
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Posted: 1/26/2010 7:57 PM
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Kyman wrote:
Why are you using the J version?
The J version has a faster title sequence. As in none.
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Posted: 2/3/2010 10:46 PM
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Due to some looking at the site rules, I have swithed to the U version. Stages 1 & 2 This run is 109 frames faster than the current published run.
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Posted: 2/3/2010 11:05 PM
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Thank you for working on this game, it's probably the most enjoyable watch out of all the remaining 2004 NES games. I look forward to seeing your progress :)
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Posted: 2/4/2010 5:15 AM
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Nice going Sonikkustar! Looks good so far! I think you made Stage 1 pretty entertaining, and opening up the first room of Stage 2 with the grenade looked like it cut lag. By the way, if you didn't know, Hisatoki has an improvement to Funk DOC's TAS on Youtube. I don't know where exactly he improves on the published TAS, but it couldn't hurt to have another basis for comparison: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGlzL-kQjEM
Used to be a frequent submissions commenter. My new computer has had some issues running emulators, so I've been here more sporadically. Still haven't gotten around to actually TASing yet... I was going to improve Kid Dracula for GB. It seems I was beaten to it, though, with a recent awesome run by Hetfield90 and StarvinStruthers. (http://tasvideos.org/2928M.html.) Thanks to goofydylan8 for running Gargoyle's Quest 2 because I mentioned the game! (http://tasvideos.org/2001M.html) Thanks to feos and MESHUGGAH for taking up runs of Duck Tales 2 because of my old signature! Thanks also to Samsara for finishing a Treasure Master run. From the submission comments:
Shoutouts and thanks to mklip2001 for arguably being the nicest and most supportive person on the forums.
Posted: 2/4/2010 9:34 PM
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Stage 3 The boss has a little bit of lag. I might redo it. Total time saved:178 frames
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Posted: 2/5/2010 3:54 AM
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Nice job again! At this rate, you're going to handily beat Hisatoki's run too. I especially liked how you handled lag in the first part of the stage, and I think I saw a zip in a ceiling block too. As for the boss fight, it did seem a little laggy even before he did the flames attack. The fight still looked good, though... he was out of your reach less than he was for Funk DOC.
Used to be a frequent submissions commenter. My new computer has had some issues running emulators, so I've been here more sporadically. Still haven't gotten around to actually TASing yet... I was going to improve Kid Dracula for GB. It seems I was beaten to it, though, with a recent awesome run by Hetfield90 and StarvinStruthers. (http://tasvideos.org/2928M.html.) Thanks to goofydylan8 for running Gargoyle's Quest 2 because I mentioned the game! (http://tasvideos.org/2001M.html) Thanks to feos and MESHUGGAH for taking up runs of Duck Tales 2 because of my old signature! Thanks also to Samsara for finishing a Treasure Master run. From the submission comments:
Shoutouts and thanks to mklip2001 for arguably being the nicest and most supportive person on the forums.
Posted: 2/5/2010 4:06 AM
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Sonikkustar
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Actually, There were two instances of corner zipping in this movie so far. One is in Stage 2 & the other is in Stage 3. I'll do more tomorrow. Night people!
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