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Also known as "Cat Mario", Syobon Action is an extremely difficult mario-clone platformer that usually takes many tries to complete. This run aims to do so in the fastest possible time.

Game objectives

  • Emulator used: Hourglass - r81
  • Fastest Time For Real
  • No Deaths
  • Do not use select-state key (Number keys 1-4)

Comments

Before introducing this movie, I want to explain why this movie's re-record count is only 62, because this run is an improved version of the formal run in 1:49:87, so the real re-record count is 4432. When you want to watch it in Hourglass, please set FPS to 30 and System Time to 0.
First of all, I would like to thank my friend Hu, who have provided me with many technical supports, so I can create this movie. Also, I would like to thank jlun2, because he came up with an important suggestion - the Lags in this game, which helped me saved more than 100 frames.
Secondly, the reason why I used the "4 stage" version instead of an extended one is because the "official" site only has this version. Also, a source claims that Syobon Action only has 4 stages, implying that the extended version is a fan-game.

Glitches/Tricks

Wall Jumping

With enough horizontal velocity, you can clip slightly into a wall if you turn around for ~1 frame. Then simply hold onto the jump button ("Z" or "UP") to jump again once inside the wall. (If you are lucky, you can jmup on the wall at full speed! )

Quick Turn

To turn quickly, bump into a wall for 1 frame then immediately turn around. It's faster than turning without bumping into a wall. Used once in stage 1 - 1.

Quick Decelerate

When you're on the ground and you are fast forward, don't hold onto any button for 1 frame, then you will slow down more quickly than hold onto the back button. Used once in stage 1 - 2.

Stage by stage comments

1-1

The first stage of the game. I tried to speed up my cat, and it's a fully optimized run, so finally I saved 19 frames in this stage.

1-2

I managed to save 1 frame at the first screen but failed, then I watched Hu's previous run and luckily got the 1 frame. In the third screen I jumped first, then saved 6 frames.

1-3

The third stage takes place above ground. I tried to make less deceleration and kick the shell more accurately, in the end I saved 10 frames.

1-4

As the third stage, I tried to accelerate in this stage, finally I saved 12 frames.

Other comments

Possible Improvements

  • Speed/Pixel Management (Needs RAM Search & RAM Watch)

Screenshot

(frame 1278)

feos: Judging...

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This topic is for the purpose of discussing #3940: TEHH_083 & happy_mario's Windows Syobon Action in 01:49.77
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Wow, this was very impressive, even if I did not see much difference with jlun2’s run. A strong yes vote for the improvement.
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I see entertainment is improved as well as time saving. Well done, guys.
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Nicely done. Not a large improvement, but it looks fast and dangerous. My favorite part is the very end of Stage 3 when you barely dodge the lasers from the pole. The way you get on the ceiling in Stage 4 is cool too. Thank you also for the Metacafe encode!
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Fast and entertaining, I like it! Yes vote.
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I'm really glad to see you here, Tehh_083! And I'm pretty sure that it's a good run, and will watch right after it gets published.
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Thank you very much for your votes! I am very glad to make this movie with TEHH_083.
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Maybe this one can even be accepted to the moon tier
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OmegaWatcher wrote:
Maybe this one can even be accepted to the moon tier
A game this badly designed? I sure hope not. According to the criteria, Game Choice is a strong factor for Moon tier; when a run for SA was first shown, there was a big debate on whether a game as ugly as this should be shown on the site in the first place. Because let's be honest, if this were a romhack then nobody would want to see it. We don't have strict criteria for Windows games yet, but if we did then this would be scraping the bottom of the barrel. It's a decent run though - no objections there.
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Radiant wrote:
OmegaWatcher wrote:
Maybe this one can even be accepted to the moon tier
A game this badly designed? I sure hope not. According to the criteria, Game Choice is a strong factor for Moon tier; when a run for SA was first shown, there was a big debate on whether a game as ugly as this should be shown on the site in the first place. Because let's be honest, if this were a romhack then nobody would want to see it. We don't have strict criteria for Windows games yet, but if we did then this would be scraping the bottom of the barrel. It's a decent run though - no objections there.
Maybe he just means that the movie is good. I don't expect this one can be accepted to the moon tier.... So don't care about these details. :-)
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Congratulations for improving the former movie. I liked this version too a lot. Also this is your first submission, so I wish you good luck destroying other games too in the future!
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I like the improvements. It appears much more polished and somewhat more entertaining. Yes vote.
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Radiant wrote:
OmegaWatcher wrote:
Maybe this one can even be accepted to the moon tier
A game this badly designed? I sure hope not. According to the criteria, Game Choice is a strong factor for Moon tier; when a run for SA was first shown, there was a big debate on whether a game as ugly as this should be shown on the site in the first place. Because let's be honest, if this were a romhack then nobody would want to see it. We don't have strict criteria for Windows games yet, but if we did then this would be scraping the bottom of the barrel. It's a decent run though - no objections there.
Honestly, I hate this kind of game. There is only one pleasure for me when I see that kind of game: someone TASing it and destroying it. late edit:
happy_mario wrote:
Maybe he just means that the movie is good.
Yeah, I mean that as well!
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looks real smooth, yes vote
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I suddenly can't run the game from hourglass, not sure when I will judge it.
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feos wrote:
I suddenly can't run the game from hourglass, not sure when I will judge it.
Name: SyobonAction.exe Side: 1716224 Byte Modified time: February 4, 2008 13:14:42 MD5: 6A41CF45ED577EF23CCD9AA55B89A353 SHA1: 6BB63BEAB4FA147D3E483E847B0289DA72991709 CRC32: 4F22867D Should I send the ROM to you? Perhaps the version of the game is different. Maybe these information can help you.
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The hashes don't match, though I downloaded the ROM from the same place jlun2 used for his TAS. Please upload yours or give a direct link.
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I can't google any version of this game other than that: http://www.geocities.jp/z_gundam_tanosii/home/Main.html And it doesn't match.
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feos wrote:
I can't google any version of this game other than that: http://www.geocities.jp/z_gundam_tanosii/home/Main.html And it doesn't match.
Thank you very much! I will use this correct version of the game as soon as possible.
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But I still need your ROM version to verify the submission.
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feos wrote:
But I still need your ROM version to verify the submission.
In fact I can also run this movie by using the version of the game that you offered. I'm sorry but I couldn't find any site where I can upload my ROM. Thus, I want to edit a new post. Thank you again!
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