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Last One. For the uninformed.
I'll vote in a bit after watching it.
Edit: So why wasn't THISDONE? (Yes 2 different links)
Edit 2: Here's an encode with values being shown (Values given within submission).
Link to video
I disagree with your choice on Y Pos btw.
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Um...
Link to video
Just in mention of loading screens and stuff (First 5 seconds).
Is there a true difference between the Jap and the E/U version or is this just due to an old version of vba?
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I don't know much about the smw/sma2 difference, but I have a few questions.
1. Could you explain why did you avoid the strategies which had been used in the snes run? Namely, (a) the bowser fight, (b) the sw3 strat, (c) the passing-through-stair trick in dsh, and (d) jumping at the very beginning of the second room in ds1. I can find no reason why they are impossible or slower.
2. In c1, it looks like mario jumps lower than he can at the place where, in smw, we usually use the p-switch to avoid the lava pool. I can guess it's because you took care on the koopa above; then why don't you use spinjump instead?
3. fd. In room 2, wouldn't it be faster to take damage to get p-run?
4. sw4. Why did you slow down when grabbing a shell?
5. sw1. ISM pointed out that it's possible to perform a smashola-like downward zipping. You can stop spinjumping by catching the wall.
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While watching I also noticed a few things that Mister pointed out already, the sound is horrible, I also wasn't entertained by the Big Boo fight either. Voting No.
Warning: Might glitch to creditsI will finish this ACE soon as possible
(or will I?)
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Rayman 3 maybe? idk xD
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N64 Rayman 2 (with Funnyhair)
GBA SMA 4 : E Reader (With TehSeven)
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1. Bowser fight: I thought that the new strat wasn't possible in SMA2, but I recently realized it was after submitting.
SW3: Every time I tried to throw the p-switch to get the block, Mario wasn't high enough. I could keep trying though. Also, in SMA2, you have to wait a few frames to be able to grab the key, unlike the snes version.
DSH: I'm confused.. I did clip through the stairs. If you're talking about why it is slower, than it's because you need to have 51 speed in order to clip the stairs. The qualifications are tighter in SMA2, whereas in the snes version it is extremely easy.
2. I'm confused by what you mean, but I feel like that part is improvable as well. I may experiment with jumping off the p-switch and spinjumping off the podoboo.
3. I think it may be, but I'd have to experiment. It may be faster to get a feather in Sw4 and use the reserve feather to fight bowser. In that case, I couldn't take damage in room 2.
4. In SMA2, there is only one button for flying, so you only have a few frames to be able to spin the cape while flying (only in a rise). I had to slow down there, but I may be able to avoid slowing down using a different strat.
5. Oh, I didn't know that! I'll have to use that.
Thanks for your input! I may have no choice but to restart this run from Ds1...
EDIT: Redoing, just saved some frames in yi4..
4. In SMA2, there is only one button for flying, so you only have a few frames to be able to spin the cape while flying (only in a rise). I had to slow down there, but I may be able to avoid slowing down using a different strat.
1. Bowser fight: I thought that the new strat wasn't possible in SMA2, but I recently realized it was after submitting.
SW3: Every time I tried to throw the p-switch to get the block, Mario wasn't high enough. I could keep trying though. Also, in SMA2, you have to wait a few frames to be able to grab the key, unlike the snes version.
DSH: I'm confused.. I did clip through the stairs. If you're talking about why it is slower, than it's because you need to have 51 speed in order to clip the stairs. The qualifications are tighter in SMA2, whereas in the snes version it is extremely easy.
2. I'm confused by what you mean, but I feel like that part is improvable as well. I may experiment with jumping off the p-switch and spinjumping off the podoboo.
3. I think it may be, but I'd have to experiment. It may be faster to get a feather in Sw4 and use the reserve feather to fight bowser. In that case, I couldn't take damage in room 2.
4. In SMA2, there is only one button for flying, so you only have a few frames to be able to spin the cape while flying (only in a rise). I had to slow down there, but I may be able to avoid slowing down using a different strat.
5. Oh, I didn't know that! I'll have to use that.
Thanks for your input! I may have no choice but to restart this run from Ds1...
I'm improving your run :p
(I should submit it in TASVideos in some days)
EDIt: Finally, I'll wait improvements, then see if I can improve.
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Rayman 3 maybe? idk xD
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gbreeze wrote:
DSH: I'm confused.. I did clip through the stairs. If you're talking about why it is slower, than it's because you need to have 51 speed in order to clip the stairs. The qualifications are tighter in SMA2, whereas in the snes version it is extremely easy.
What I wanted to ask is whether the "sliding-through-stairs" trick is possible in sma2, which is exactly what was used in the most recent dsh strategy. It's essentially the same as the flying-trough one but has much tighter qualification. You may have to examine it after simulating what movement is ideal.
gbreeze wrote:
2. I'm confused by what you mean, but I feel like that part is improvable as well. I may experiment with jumping off the p-switch and spinjumping off the podoboo.
In the sixth jump, you're too far from the ceiling, which means that you grabbed the fence a little earlier. To prevent that, you could have simply jumped higher, but you must have stopped from doing so by the enemy above. My point is to spinjump there instead so as to manage a jump with small initial y-velocity. In that case, you will have to be small mario.
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DSH: I'm confused.. I did clip through the stairs. If you're talking about why it is slower, than it's because you need to have 51 speed in order to clip the stairs. The qualifications are tighter in SMA2, whereas in the snes version it is extremely easy.
What I wanted to ask is whether the "sliding-through-stairs" trick is possible in sma2, which is exactly what was used in the most recent dsh strategy. It's essentially the same as the flying-trough one but has much tighter qualification. You may have to examine it after simulating what movement is ideal.
gbreeze wrote:
2. I'm confused by what you mean, but I feel like that part is improvable as well. I may experiment with jumping off the p-switch and spinjumping off the podoboo.
In the sixth jump, you're too far from the ceiling, which means that you grabbed the fence a little earlier. To prevent that, you could have simply jumped higher, but you must have stopped from doing so by the enemy above. My point is to spinjump there instead so as to manage a jump with small initial y-velocity. In that case, you will have to be small mario.
Oh, I see what you're saying now! I'll definitely have to look into that. Dsh was really un-optimized.
Yeah, the enemy did stop me, but I just tried a different strategy where I drop the p-switch, spinjump off it, and spinjump off the podoboo. It only saved 3 frames though.
Edit: Somehow I saved a frame in the auto scroll portion. I just used the snes any% method of getting a cape in dp1 to save some time too.
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Mister wrote:
1. Could you explain why did you avoid the strategies which had been used in the snes run? Namely, (a) the bowser fight, (b) the sw3 strat, (c) the passing-through-stair trick in dsh, and (d) jumping at the very beginning of the second room in ds1.
I just noticed you'd missed (d). That would enable you to take off slightly farther from the question block, and you would lose less amount of speed.
Good luck!
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1. Could you explain why did you avoid the strategies which had been used in the snes run? Namely, (a) the bowser fight, (b) the sw3 strat, (c) the passing-through-stair trick in dsh, and (d) jumping at the very beginning of the second room in ds1.
I just noticed you'd missed (d). That would enable you to take off slightly farther from the question block, and you would lose less amount of speed.
Good luck!
So I just finished the new run, do I cancel this one and submit the new one? It's completely different (except for the first two levels).
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If it's still only yours, post the WIP and I'll update the submission.
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Or can I just resubmit? I'd have to do new level comments on every level, since frames were saved on every level. And yes, it's still only mine. It's almost like an entirely different run (250 frames were saved over my last run).
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Actually do whatever you'd like better, updating submission files is just to simplify the routine.
Warning: When making decisions, I try to collect as much data as possible before actually deciding. I try to abstract away and see the principles behind real world events and people's opinions. I try to generalize them and turn into something clear and reusable. I hate depending on unpredictable and having to make lottery guesses. Any problem can be solved by systems thinking and acting.
