If this gets published, I suggest the category be named "new content any%". I think that is more descriptive and less silly than "DS%". Would the Arena glitch still save time if one were going through Lost Sanctum sidequests? EDIT: Excerpts from the IRC discussion on the matter: <moozooh> there is merit in the concept of "new content any%" because for extended ports where new content is almost entirely optional, a regular any% would be too similar to the original platform any% and would defeat the purpose of doing it on the new platform to begin with <moozooh> so there are two reasonable options <moozooh> 1) do a 100% run with a definition that simply has to include all the new content as well as the old <moozooh> 2) do an any%-like run with a goal that includes the optional goals introduced in the port but doesn't do everything there is <arandomgameTASer> moozooh: but see, if it were really 'new content any%', it would need to show the Arena as well. That's brand new to the port as well. <arandomgameTASer> especially note the any% part <moozooh> yeah, and that's the problem i see with it atm <arandomgameTASer> by skipping the 99 item glitch, it's not really any% <moozooh> that being said, is the arena a quest per se? <arandomgameTASer> yes and no <moozooh> well, can it be "completed"? <moozooh> and how long would that take? [...] <arandomgameTASer> it's a monster training sidequest with 6 tiers <arandomgameTASer> you basically send the monster off to train in any eras you've unlocked <arandomgameTASer> 10 minutes later, it comes back with an item and better stats <arandomgameTASer> that item he brings back is how the 99 duplication glitch happens <moozooh> can you do other stuff during those 10 minutes or something? <arandomgameTASer> yeah, you can leave and keep playing <moozooh> oh, that sounds convenient <arandomgameTASer> EXACTLY <moozooh> so, how much of the run would have to be remade to include the arena? <arandomgameTASer> all of it. You can access it as soon as you can save <moozooh> oh wow <moozooh> okay that really doesn't help that run at all <arandomgameTASer> my whole point is you can save at the very beginning, send the monster off, go back to playing, 10 minutes later go back and get 99 power tabs, then proceed to save a large amount of time <Invariel> And yes, what arandomgameTASer is saying would save a lot of time. <Invariel> The claim in the thread that Lavos can't be beaten during the first encounter is also wrong. <arandomgameTASer> the one in the Ocean Palace you mean? <Invariel> Aye. <arandomgameTASer> yeah he can be beaten there. Just super difficult <Invariel> Exactly.

Now I'll talk about why I skipped Arena completely. The reason is simple. It's a minigame that breaks the pace of the game.

So you'd rather show hours of content that we have already seen and isn't exclusive to this version in your run that aims to show off content exclusive to this version, rather than having a broken pace but all new features are shown and the run is faster? I can't really comment on whether you are right about whether the grinding is necessary, but that seems like a very weird and arbitrary goal choice. Let's call it "new content except minigames, using only half the glitches available, forgoes time savers in order to keep the pacing, for no particular reason other than that's the way it was decided to be run... well that sounded random, just watch it plz%"

When I said "being able to face Lavos for the first time", I meant the first time you visit End of Time, after visiting 2300AD. This doesn't have to do with the run though. I'm only trying to say that you do need enough stamina and magic defense, which tabs can't increase. For the pacing thing, I think the fact that duplicating tabs allows you to kill early bosses so quick that there isn't much space for strategies is also pace-breaking. I wanted the first half of this run to be a spiritual successor of [450] SNES Chrono Trigger by hero_of_the_day in 4:21:11.83, since there is no up-to-date any% glitchless run for either version at this time. The Arena of Ages is nothing more than a mini-game. The 6 tiers are determined by the highest level in your team. There is no progression or completion by any means. In addition, there is an accessory you can get from monster battles called Nu Arcana that "may instantly reduce opponent's HP to 1." I didn't get this item when I played the game, and I didn't find any useful information about how this thing actually works. However, if it actually has a chance to work on any enemies, then it's gonna make the player able to kill most bosses in two hits. I don't think a run like that will be very interesting. This is another factor that makes me decide to skip Arena of Ages. I know all of these sound arbitrary, but that's what I was thinking while I planned the run.

that's what I was thinking while I planned the run

Still arbitrary.

I noticed that Ayla has extra dialogue with Robo when you first arrive in 65M. What is the time difference between ending the two fights in one action with Laser Spin compared to taking Marle and avoiding the extra words?

I noticed that Ayla has extra dialogue with Robo when you first arrive in 65M. What is the time difference between ending the two fights in one action with Laser Spin compared to taking Marle and avoiding the extra words?

I forgot the exact time difference, but IIRC, not switching to Marle is faster in the end thanks to text scrolling in CTDS.

Requesting a subtitle file with author's commentary / explanations to be made, and published together with the movie!

om, nom, nom... crunchy!

Aww. Too bad. Now, however, I'm enjoying this Chrono Trigger TAS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ArKWt_v7Qo Which does have author's commentary (and excellent spoken one too), and it also was not submitted to TASVideos, because the author thought it's too likely that it would just be rejected. The run starts at around half-an-hour to the video. Before that, the author just talks about what's TASing and rambles about TAS & speedrun politics (also interesting).

I just love how he criticizes TASVideos, because they wouldn't accept runs that don't solely aim for speed (even though we do), while at the same time admitting that he intentionally TASes suboptimally. No, refusing to use memory addresses is not considered an entertainment-tradeoff!

i hope this gets a new version with the arena cloning trick implemented to get tabs.I'd test myself if i weren't busy atm.