The hell's a "Luigi"?

The stuff

  • FCEUX 2.2.3
  • 1 Player
  • Hardest Difficulty
  • Luck Manipulation
  • Contains a single Entertainment Tradeoff

Values

The only value I can give out is 002E.
This value is global between both versions and it tells you how much longer till an enemy spawns.
The enemy "Slipice" is not considered as an enemy so it doesn't display when that spawns.
Coins also don't appear on this.

18 Phases?

No B Button

That's right. No B Button. This button wasn't on the Arcade and isn't part of this game.
B Button is a dead button.

1 Player

Here, we go now the actual reasoning for a 1 player run.
Now in comparison to making a 2 player run a single player must actually use a very useful glitch (example gif shown later) which the 2 player TAS only uses during the Bonus Phases. Which is phasing through the floor.
This glitch will only work if 2 factors are correct.
  • You Jump on the correct frame
  • You Pause on the correct frame (unpausing doesn't mean anything as you can unpause as late as you want and you'll still get the effect)
If you get the method down to a tee but do your jump on an incorrect frame (every other frame) you will fail to phase through the ground making it so you'd bonk your head.
You'll be unable to go back down using the same jump you used to phase with.
This is next to impossible for RTA due to the circumstances.
The single player TAS was made to show the contrasting differences in actually having a partner and not.
The other version will not be TASed as it doesn't have the phasing glitch which can be simply compared to an RTA run (just superhuman).

Couldn't you delay your final jump on the firefly for a faster exit?

No. It's slower to delay. You want to do it As Soon As Possible for you to be able to also Phase Through. The hitbox is large enough that even if you go down a pixel than what you should, you'll still hit it faster than delaying any further. (Delaying from the initial is always 2 frames slower).

Phasing through the floor:


The entertainment tradeoff costs a few frames and shows off phasing downwards as I wanted to at least show it in action (Phase 12).

Nach: I enjoyed this run, and found it entertaining enough for its length, however, not as much as I enjoyed the 2 player runs. Some watching this run enjoyed it too, but a good chunk of the audience did not think this run was entertaining enough to warrant placing it in Moons. As much as I would like to see this published, this run is not eligible for the vault, and didn't gather enough support for anything higher, rejecting.
DrD2k9: Re-evaluating due to rule changes.
DrD2k9: Rules now allow for multiple standard class runs of the same game using different numbers of players:
Multiplayer: For games where you can control several character at once, up to 3 branches are allowed:
  • Minimum players (usually 1)
  • Maximum players (usually 2)
  • Some other player count if it's faster than both of the above
This run qualifies for the "minimum players" variation. Accepting.
Note to publisher: In my opinion, "18 rounds" isn't necessary in the branch name. "1 Player" should suffice. Also, this run syncs on FCEUX 2.6.6

despoa: Processing...


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I liked this one, just like the other Mario Bros. TASes. We get to see Mario dancing around while waiting for the enemies to spawn and there's even a glitch, in a limited game like this. Yes vote!
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Anyone else want to comment on this run? What did you think of a Mario-only run? Was the phasing through the floor interesting?
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Nach wrote:
What did you think of a Mario-only run?
I find controlling two characters more impressive and nicer to watch than just one.
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Voting Meh. It is decent, but not as good as 2p action in such single-screen arcade games. The glitch is nice, but not enough to make 8 minutes of otherwise the same MB gameplay entertaining.
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Nach wrote:
Anyone else want to comment on this run? What did you think of a Mario-only run? Was the phasing through the floor interesting?
I enjoyed watching it without any fast-forward.
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I liked it.
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Nach wrote:
Anyone else want to comment on this run? What did you think of a Mario-only run? Was the phasing through the floor interesting?
It was sort of neat for one or two phases, but after that it just left me wondering whether it is really worthwhile to publish alongside the 2p run. I personally don't think this run has enough in it to publish it as a separate, slower category.
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Currently there are two published runs (NTSC / PAL). The PAL version is harder and goes on for a bit longer and the movement is different - but at the moment they're both 2p runs. Could this run be a replacement for one of those to further add to the separation in the categories? For example: NTSC: Single player. Because this game has less phases and is known to be easier it makes more sense to have one player tackle it. PAL: Two player. Because this game has more phases and is more difficult, two players can tackle it. Because the player count is different (in addition to the already noted differences here and in the submission texts of the other movies) it just further adds more variation between the two published runs, making them less similar. I mean, the problem would be obsoleting a faster and potentially more entertaining run so the idea's not without heavy drawback and consequence. But it's food for thought, at the very least.
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Thanks everyone for their thoughts on this TAS. I knew from the start that it had a much higher chance of being rejected as I was forewarned about it back when I did the 2 player TASes. I still wanted to challenge the odds and instead of using the WIP area for it to be hidden under a rug to throw it up and see if it had such a chance. Great thing to have still even when rejected as it will be used as a whatnot and challenge others who would've thought of making this run. ❤
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Thank you for making this run, it was solid and well played.
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This movie has been published. The posts before this message apply to the submission, and posts after this message apply to the published movie. ---- [6017] NES Mario Bros. "1 player" by Spikestuff in 07:39.79