Comparison:

Game objectives

  • Emulator used: Bizhawk 2.3.1
  • takes damage to save time
  • heavy luck manipulation
  • Uses Japan Bios 1.00

Comments

Castlevania Symphony of the Night is arguably one of the best 2D platformers ever made. While most know of it from the PSX release, it also recieved a port on the Sega Saturn in Japan, and is considered to be one of the worst ports for the game due to its poor performance in lag. However it has an exclusive maria mode, which allows you to play as Maria Renard.
Maria mode plays simmilar to Richter where you can freely explore the castle. so much so that you can get to the final boss right away after you turn the castle around.
This movie is around a 12.05 second improvement to the publicaion, as shown in the comparison encode. the time appears longer due to better saturn emulation in bizhawk compared to yabause-rr, which includes an extra 12 seconds of bios start up time (overall a 20 second time difference due to loading, which is also reflected in the comparison encode.)
the previous movie is able to skip some screens at the beginning by doing a soft restart by pressing Start, A, B, and C, but because bizhawk uses the bios for saturn, it just brings you back to the Saturn menu instead.

Stage by stage comments

Opening

So right off the bat you'll notice some different movement compared to the previous tas, you can cancel out your forward kick by holding the opposite direction during the kick, this allows me to continuously dive kick and forward kick in quick succession. It is faster than just down dashing. some areas I still do down dashing because I either cant do a forward kick there or it puts me into position to start a high jump.

Alchemy Laboratory

probably the only time save worth mentioning is the 3rd to last room, instead of downward kicking to a lower level then super jumping to the exit, instead I go to a higher platorm, slide on that, then use a super jump to hit the exit to halt my jump speed then mozy around to enter in, this saves a little bit more than a half a second.

Royal Chapel

since you have a bit more speed doing the downward kicks than doing diagonal super jumps, I alternate using both methods to get up the giant stairs. for the Griffin fight, I can get a bit more damage on him by shooting a hadauken before doing the KameHameHa.

Castle Keep

I manipulate RNG to get an axe drop from one of the knights, it will be important for use in the Inverted Chapel. This area just has some better movement overall and doesnt try to bonk into ceilings as much.

Inverted Chapel

Screen Transitions in the Chapel in general are pretty broken. if you back dash into the middle of a transition you can confuse the game into placing you somewhere else on the screen, the first room does it in the save room to save a little bit of time. for the Medusa fight, I dont use the KameHameHa as it would waste valuable energy that I need for the next room, so instead I stomp on her until she's dead.
once again, by using the broken screen transitions, I can get out of bounds and avoid any other obstacles that would normally slow me down. Axes are important here because your downward kick will lose speed after awhile, but if you throw an axe, you can preserve your current speed, this allows me to quickly get under some steeples.

Reverse Colosseum

not much to explain in this room, other than the axe movement at the end lets me avoid taking damage from a wearwolf

Shaft

Blue Dragon helps to end input extremely early.

Memory: Claiming for judging
Memory: This run improves optimization over the published run in basically all areas and there are no signs of obvious sloppiness. I personally looked into the logo skip trick of the previous run and found that performing it on bizhawk resulted in going back to the bios menu.
I found the movement of Maria to be quite entrancing over the course of the run and the audience also loved the run too.
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I watched your complete WIP work before. Nice work with some new trick! Yes vote.
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This is truly one off the best efforts I've seen from you. The game choice, the optimization, and entertainment. I'll definitely be following the life of this submission. Yes vote.
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Somthing I forgot to mention is the rerecords are not accurate. I switched over to 2.3.2 but I discovered that if bizhawk stalls when you make a change to the movie, the rerecord counter will keep going up. It really should be around the 45k range.
[14:15] <feos> WinDOES what DOSn't 12:33:44 PM <Mothrayas> "I got an oof with my game!" Mothrayas Today at 12:22: <Colin> thank you for supporting noble causes such as my feet MemoryTAS Today at 11:55 AM: you wouldn't know beauty if it slapped you in the face with a giant fish [Today at 4:51 PM] Mothrayas: although if you like your own tweets that's the online equivalent of sniffing your own farts and probably tells a lot about you as a person MemoryTAS Today at 7:01 PM: But I exert big staff energy honestly lol Samsara Today at 1:20 PM: wouldn't ACE in a real life TAS just stand for Actually Cease Existing
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You should hex edit the re-record count to reflect that before submitting.
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I prefer to not mess with the count tbh. I also have no idea if it should stay as it is or just be changed to (unknown).
[14:15] <feos> WinDOES what DOSn't 12:33:44 PM <Mothrayas> "I got an oof with my game!" Mothrayas Today at 12:22: <Colin> thank you for supporting noble causes such as my feet MemoryTAS Today at 11:55 AM: you wouldn't know beauty if it slapped you in the face with a giant fish [Today at 4:51 PM] Mothrayas: although if you like your own tweets that's the online equivalent of sniffing your own farts and probably tells a lot about you as a person MemoryTAS Today at 7:01 PM: But I exert big staff energy honestly lol Samsara Today at 1:20 PM: wouldn't ACE in a real life TAS just stand for Actually Cease Existing
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In case anyone is interested behind the development of the Saturn port. Here's the hidden .txt I extracted from the Saturn disc a few years back. In it they admit the games short comings and the constraints they were under. I ran it through a Google translate so the translation might be butchered. [MOD EDIT: Please do not copy-paste a gigantic block of text like this directly into a post - please use Pastebin or similar. Also, please do so in the correct game topic, not a submission topic. -Mothrayas]
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That was pretty dope alright. Good job. Yes vote, and good riddance to Yabause.
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Easy Yes vote. It would be great if you make a Maria all bosses run one day.
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Fortranm wrote:
Easy Yes vote. It would be great if you make a Maria all bosses run one day.
Id love to do that when I have the motivation.
[14:15] <feos> WinDOES what DOSn't 12:33:44 PM <Mothrayas> "I got an oof with my game!" Mothrayas Today at 12:22: <Colin> thank you for supporting noble causes such as my feet MemoryTAS Today at 11:55 AM: you wouldn't know beauty if it slapped you in the face with a giant fish [Today at 4:51 PM] Mothrayas: although if you like your own tweets that's the online equivalent of sniffing your own farts and probably tells a lot about you as a person MemoryTAS Today at 7:01 PM: But I exert big staff energy honestly lol Samsara Today at 1:20 PM: wouldn't ACE in a real life TAS just stand for Actually Cease Existing
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Nice work, easy yes vote. And yay to no more yabause movies.
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Yes. Watching Maria jump, fly, and bounce all over the place was entertaining.
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I can't edit my previous post, but I'd recommend the mods allow the use of collapsible blocks to prevent the need for using Pastebin.
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A comparison encode has been added, big thanks to Doomsday31415 for putting it together.
[14:15] <feos> WinDOES what DOSn't 12:33:44 PM <Mothrayas> "I got an oof with my game!" Mothrayas Today at 12:22: <Colin> thank you for supporting noble causes such as my feet MemoryTAS Today at 11:55 AM: you wouldn't know beauty if it slapped you in the face with a giant fish [Today at 4:51 PM] Mothrayas: although if you like your own tweets that's the online equivalent of sniffing your own farts and probably tells a lot about you as a person MemoryTAS Today at 7:01 PM: But I exert big staff energy honestly lol Samsara Today at 1:20 PM: wouldn't ACE in a real life TAS just stand for Actually Cease Existing
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Mitjitsu wrote:
In case anyone is interested behind the development of the Saturn port. Here's the hidden .txt I extracted from the Saturn disc a few years back. In it they admit the games short comings and the constraints they were under. I ran it through a Google translate so the translation might be butchered. [MOD EDIT: Please do not copy-paste a gigantic block of text like this directly into a post - please use Pastebin or similar. Also, please do so in the correct game topic, not a submission topic. -Mothrayas]
There's a full transcription and translation on TCRF for those interested. As for the run itself, it certainly looks impressive, and I like how the comparison encode shows the increased optimisation on nearly every screen (as well as the increased load times due to the change of emulator).
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Mitjitsu wrote:
I can't edit my previous post, but I'd recommend the mods allow the use of collapsible blocks to prevent the need for using Pastebin.
It's not disallowed, it's just non-existent in the forum codebase. And I don't see a reason to prevent pastebin.
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This movie has been published. The posts before this message apply to the submission, and posts after this message apply to the published movie. ---- [3982] Saturn Castlevania: Symphony of the Night "Maria Mode" by EZGames69 in 06:53.03
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I provided commentary for this run at insomniacspeedruns. You can find the highlight here: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/466735855 Youtube highlight: https://youtu.be/xxdiiIuGfDI
[14:15] <feos> WinDOES what DOSn't 12:33:44 PM <Mothrayas> "I got an oof with my game!" Mothrayas Today at 12:22: <Colin> thank you for supporting noble causes such as my feet MemoryTAS Today at 11:55 AM: you wouldn't know beauty if it slapped you in the face with a giant fish [Today at 4:51 PM] Mothrayas: although if you like your own tweets that's the online equivalent of sniffing your own farts and probably tells a lot about you as a person MemoryTAS Today at 7:01 PM: But I exert big staff energy honestly lol Samsara Today at 1:20 PM: wouldn't ACE in a real life TAS just stand for Actually Cease Existing