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  • Aims for fastest time
  • 1 Player
  • Hero:Subutai(赵云)
  • Heavy luck manipulation
  • Takes damage to save time
  • Hardest Level
  • Emulator:Fba-rr-v005a
  • ROM:Warriors of Fate(921002 etc)/wof.zip
  • Genre: Fighting
  • Genre: Platform
Warriors of Fate is an ancient arcade game like Captain Commando or Final Fight.This tas is 4 minutes faster than anonymous tas(21:55,but 22:30 in fact) on youtube/niconico.This type of game is very hard since its powerful random.It looks that there is no optimal strategy in tas.Overall priority:advanced weapons>ride horse>medium weapons>Unarmed>inferior weapons.
Round1李典:Ride Horse.Horse can make AOE Damage.
Round2夏侯惇:Use long sword.Long sword will not knock down enemy.
Round3-1许褚:Use hammer.Hammer will not knock down enemy.
Round3-2美美、美玲、美伢:Unarmed.
Round4曹仁:Unarmed + hammer.
Round5淳于导:Ride Horse.
Round6夏侯杰、宴明:Use long sword.In this stage,we can get two gorgeous swords.They are inferior weapons since they can knock down enemy.
Round7张辽:Unarmed.In this stage,I can get some practical weapons,but I want to show Unarmed Fight.So I ignore all weapons.
Round8徐晃:Axe + hammer.
Round9吕布:Grass Shaving Sword + Heavenly Sword.
Round10曹操:Unarmed.
Memory: Judging
Memory: Optimization doesn't appear to be bad, but there is a speed/entertainment trade-off that should have been listed as such from the beginning (Publisher please note) and the character choice could be investigated further.
The movie is decently entertaining I feel. While it's not a fast paced beat-em up by any means, it doesn't exactly feel slow either. Audience feedback was sparse. The few posts about the entertainment were of differing opinions, yet the poll leans fairly positive. I feel this is good enough for moons.
Accepting to Moons.
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Posted: 9/1/2019 6:35 AM
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Posted: 9/1/2019 6:48 AM
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Posted: 9/1/2019 7:42 PM
Post subject: Re: #6502: xipo's Arcade Warriors of Fate "Subutai" in 18:32.7
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Golden Axe on a horse? I'll take it. Why did you use this hero instead of another, or instead of two at the same time? I mean, of course you're going to answer that it's faster, but could you elaborate? :)
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Posted: 9/3/2019 5:04 AM
Post subject: Re: #6502: xipo's Arcade Warriors of Fate "Subutai" in 18:32.7
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Radiant wrote:
Golden Axe on a horse? I'll take it. Why did you use this hero instead of another, or instead of two at the same time? I mean, of course you're going to answer that it's faster, but could you elaborate? :)
These men are five heros in Three Kingdoms Period.They represent loyal、strong、dexterous、shooter、fortitude.Everyone is unique.Subutai(赵云) is the most handsome man.So he is hero in my heart.
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Posted: 9/6/2019 6:00 PM
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Just to clarify things who is the fastest character? Briefly skimmed and this does look good so far. Very good grouping, and getting the bosses in hit stun combos.
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Posted: 9/9/2019 8:35 AM
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This is Movelist? http://www.arcadequartermaster.com/capcom/wof_kassar.html
Posted: 9/9/2019 10:55 AM
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theripper999 wrote:
Just to clarify things who is the fastest character?
To jump on the back of this question and to reference Radiant's question for hopefully an answer. Why is it only 1 player in a 3 player game?
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Posted: 9/10/2019 8:13 AM
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Mihoru wrote:
This is Movelist? http://www.arcadequartermaster.com/capcom/wof_kassar.html
Yes.It is this game.It has a cool name in China and Japan.We call it 三國志-天地吞食-赤壁之戰.
Radiant wrote:
Golden Axe on a horse? I'll take it. Why did you use this hero instead of another, or instead of two at the same time? I mean, of course you're going to answer that it's faster, but could you elaborate? :)
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theripper999 wrote:
Just to clarify things who is the fastest character?
To jump on the back of this question and to reference Radiant's question for hopefully an answer. Why is it only 1 player in a 3 player game?
Who is the fastest character?It is hard to say.There's a huge complex strategy in this game.Five heros have different characteristics.Unlike Mighty Final Fight or Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles,there is no obvious best choice for this game.I think PORTOR(關羽) and KASSAR（張飛）and KADAN(黃忠) are not suitable for TAS intuitively.ABAKA(魏延) is a good candidate in RTA since his attack skills.But we can see I spent most of time attacking the enemy with different weapons.So agility is very important.That's why I chose SUBUTAI(趙雲).
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Posted: 9/10/2019 8:21 AM
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That unfortunately doesn't answer my question. I'll rewrite it. Why are you not TASing with three characters?
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Posted: 9/10/2019 8:23 AM
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How many a Height and Weight?
Posted: 9/10/2019 9:04 AM
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Mihoru wrote:
How many a Height and Weight?
Height and Weight are fictional.Don't mind
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That unfortunately doesn't answer my question. I'll rewrite it. Why are you not TASing with three characters?
There are three reasons why I decided not to use three characters. First,two or three characters will generate more enemies,and make them more HP in same difficult level. Second,the enemies are hurt with Knock Down Rule.It mean we can't attack them at all frames.We must wait necessary time.There is no evidence that two or three characters do it faster than one character. Third,Genre of this game is Fighting.TAS it is more harder than routine act games since huge randomicity.We know there are no more than three enemies in same screen in ancient game,for example Double Dragon 2,Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II,The Adventures of Bayou Billy.But there are no restrictions in Arcade.To make so many enemies act according to taser's requirements,taser must manipulated luck extremely.Three characters is Mission Impossible in this game at least.
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Posted: 9/25/2019 1:12 AM
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Posted: 9/25/2019 5:06 AM
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Not at all.
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Posted: 9/30/2019 6:24 PM
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TASVideoAgent wrote:
Round7张辽:Unarmed.In this stage,I can get some practical weapons,but I want to show Unarmed Fight.So I ignore all weapons.
So would picking up weapons actually be faster in this level, making this a speed/entertainment tradeoff?
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
Posted: 10/1/2019 3:46 AM
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Memory wrote:
TASVideoAgent wrote:
Round7张辽:Unarmed.In this stage,I can get some practical weapons,but I want to show Unarmed Fight.So I ignore all weapons.
So would picking up weapons actually be faster in this level, making this a speed/entertainment tradeoff?
Your guess is right.I confess picking up weapons will actually be faster in this level.Weapons can save several seconds.But nobody will notice this,if I don't say anything.I did ban weapons on purpose, just for showing a nice Unarmed Fight in Round7.Fastest time is one of our goals,not the unique goal,entertainment is also important.Many arcade tas in this page do not pursuit speed,include many Fighting TAS.zk547 ban death and continues coins in his tas;Ans ban damage in his tas;and I ban weapons in Round7.
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Posted: 10/15/2019 5:05 PM
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Any thoughts on how entertaining the TAS is, I feel it's decently entertaining but I'm not married to sending it to Moons.
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
Posted: 10/15/2019 5:49 PM
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I found it entertaining. It's so satisfying to see all the enemies getting massacrated at the same time!
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Posted: 10/16/2019 4:03 PM
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I found it somewhat repetitive and voted Meh. Not enough variety and action, since it's 1P and the movement speed is quite low.
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Posted: 11/3/2019 9:58 AM
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This movie has been published. The posts before this message apply to the submission, and posts after this message apply to the published movie. ---- [4063] Arcade Warriors of Fate by Xipo in 18:32.70