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happy april fools'
edit: this does not start from sram, the thing is lying
edit 2: custom textures do not affect determinism, the encode just happens to have one
I might as well give literally any explanation if I want this to be accepted (because I honestly kinda do for some reason?).
I have intentionally not included the music file dumped with the game. I think this video was posted back when I was in not-having-a-decent-video-editor hell.
To unlock this minigame, you need 10K hero points, or you can just use the ARACHNID cheat. I do the latter because it's faster.
So for this minigame, the game uses what I call "indoor swinging". It's a slightly adjusted version of the webswinging that's much slower and more stable. Despite the several indoor levels in the main story, only one of the levels uses this method of swinging as well - that level (Birth of a Hero) and pinhead bowling are the only instances of it in the whole game.
Pinhead bowling has the option of up to 4 players, sharing one controller. P1 is Spider-Man, P2 is Wrestling Outfit, P3 is Peter Parker, P4 is Alex Ross Spider-Man.
Once you're in the lane, jumping off the webline will instantly end your "roll". Much like real bowling, kicking straight into the pins/thugs will almost never work, meaning you need to go at them at an angle.
Partway through the movie, I change the controls to Enhanced, which allows for quickturns while swinging. This is not considered jumping off your webline and can essentially be used to cheat - or in this case, make the movie more interesting.
At the end of the movie, you can see me quickturn back to the starting area. Those images on the wall are actually developers of the game. The rotating question mark is a simple explanation of the minigame, provided by Bruce Campbell.
Other minigames/training modes give you a "Play Again?" screen upon completion, this one gives you a much more threatening "Game Over".

Samsara: who you callin pinhead
Samsara: Passing this off to Memory.
Memory: Claiming because I actually played this.
Memory: Synced just fine for me once I learned how to format the memory card. You just hit the button it tells you when loading up the game. That's probably why it complained about "Sram" in the submission, but it doesn't really seem to have any impact on sync so I don't feel any sort of verification movie is necessary. Mode is unlockable from the start with the ingame cheat.
So this run is a playaround and I feel it's a little of a mixed bag. Once the control mode is changed I feel the movie gets a lot more entertaining but the beginning isn't awful. Feedback was fairly mixed too.
Obviously, I don't see a reason to reject. Playground sounds like the obvious choice at first glance, but it's quite frankly not integrated well enough yet that I feel good about sending it there, so I'll send it to Moons instead.
feos brought up goal asking what it was. It's a playaround. If that needs to be added to the branch label, so be it but otherwise yeah.

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I enjoyed this playaround even if it didn't accomplish a ton. The direction changes towards the end were a real highlight. Any additional thoughts?
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Memory wrote:
I enjoyed this playaround even if it didn't accomplish a ton. The direction changes towards the end were a real highlight. Any additional thoughts?
For the most part, I don't really have anything to add. This was actually the main thing I was begged for in the Spider-Man community as soon as I started TASing and I definitely would not have done it otherwise, but all in all, I'm glad I did it. Also wow, this TAS became a year old on the 6th of this month.
I like 3D Spider-Man games.
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At face value, bowling with a lot of screwing around. So playaround sort of deal going on here, and not true speed. But at curiosity value in terms of what your fastest frame was, it was frame 4 (ignoring 13, frame 8 is your slowest). This makes me ask three questions. 1. Where would this one end up, if a "vanilla" style bowling was submitted which would use theoretically the same "bowling" movement? 2. Would a "vanilla" styled bowling actually be acceptable on the site? It's not like the other rejected titles related to bowling as this is its own thing in a sense. 3. How consistent is the web-slinging that you could copy + paste input forward into other frames (terms of speed)?
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Standard bowling would be too boring. Eh, it is just anoter perfect game. This mode is not unlocked from a clean save and accomplished by a cheat. It would be hard to make astandalone bowling that goes for speed that abides the movie rules. This kind of innovation is what TASvideos should have.
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Spikestuff wrote:
At face value, bowling with a lot of screwing around. So playaround sort of deal going on here, and not true speed. But at curiosity value in terms of what your fastest frame was, it was frame 4 (ignoring 13, frame 8 is your slowest). This makes me ask three questions. 1. Where would this one end up, if a "vanilla" style bowling was submitted which would use theoretically the same "bowling" movement? 2. Would a "vanilla" styled bowling actually be acceptable on the site? It's not like the other rejected titles related to bowling as this is its own thing in a sense. 3. How consistent is the web-slinging that you could copy + paste input forward into other frames (terms of speed)?
1. I'm not sure if you're asking me this or asking the judges. To me, this is probably just a vault-y April Fools' movie, and if it went for the same "go-right-while-spinning-left" that traditional bowling aims for, I don't think it would be very good. 2. Probably. This website has a number of published bowling movies already, right? 3. The web swinging is extremely consistent and I'm almost 100% sure you could copy/paste the inputs with the Lua/TAStudio build if you were just going for speed. My only worry is that the thugs bouncing in place before you kick them could affect their hitboxes, but I don't know if web-tied enemies actually have a moving hitbox like that.
Mizumaririn wrote:
Standard bowling would be too boring. Eh, it is just anoter perfect game. This mode is not unlocked from a clean save and accomplished by a cheat. It would be hard to make astandalone bowling that goes for speed that abides the movie rules. This kind of innovation is what TASvideos should have.
This mode can be unlocked without a cheat, but it requires earning 10K Hero Points by simply playing the game (like, 4 levels done perfectly, I think?).
I like 3D Spider-Man games.
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I wasn't entertained, because a lot of the rounds were still too similar, and I'm not even sure what the goal in this movie is. If it's not speed, it needs to be mentioned in the branch and assessed.
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