This submission is for Warlor-- er, Wayne Gretzky Hockey for the NES (I wonder how many times I'll get to use that joke.) It had real player names and relatively fast paced action but overall wasn't a very good game. You might recognize some sounds from other Bethesda NES titles like Where's Waldo?
Here we have another example of extreme early input ending, which occurs 359 frames in and plays out the rest of the almost 19 minutes with our AI leading the charge to win 2-0 over the hapless Habs. Habless? Despite being on the hardest difficulty, they AI was not very adept.
Chicago sucked and never scored a goal in all my tests, so I shifted the teams and went with Boston against Montreal as this provided the earliest start frame that a win condition would result.
Enjoy?

feos: Claiming for judging.
feos: Previously we would have complained about """triviality""" but we don't have that problem anymore, even if there's no """actual gameplay""" in the movie and the game beats itself with some manipulation.
Thanks to ViGadeomes for the review, I'll just mention that for timed games you won't be able to potentially delay game completion indefinitely, and there's little room for speeding it up really. So I think we should just look at a potential future improvement and go from there, because it's not often that a TAS would not even enter gameplay.
Accepting.

despoa: Processing...


TASVideoAgent
They/Them
Moderator
Joined: 8/3/2004
Posts: 15629
Location: 127.0.0.1
This topic is for the purpose of discussing #7986: ShesChardcore's NES Wayne Gretzky Hockey in 00:05.97
Darkman425
He/They
Editor, Judge, Skilled player (1293)
Joined: 9/19/2021
Posts: 263
Location: Texas
Amazed how the Habs find new ways to blow it.
Switch friend code: SW-2632-3851-3712
LoganTheTASer
He/Him
Banned User
Joined: 7/3/2022
Posts: 463
Location: Berkshire, UK
early input end movies are underrated imo. yes vote.
YouTube: @LoganL2008 Discord: sneakers_o_toole Watch my TASes here: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLmcAd4CTuEymf4qWKIE0Pv_NlA031cYR1&si=m1hP9qz9c8Ip35Ur
tom_mai78101
He/Him
Player (127)
Joined: 3/16/2015
Posts: 160
Based on the temp encode: 1st win: 12:27 2nd win: 17:45 These wins should have been mentioned on the submission page.
ViGadeomes
He/Him
Judge, Active player (311)
Joined: 10/16/2017
Posts: 462
Location: France
This movie is funny by how the game complete itself without much actions from player ! This movies seems well optimized, the mode is good and I see no problem that prevent it from beeing accepted BUT... Now the main part:
Movie Rules wrote:
The final input should always automatically lead to the game's completion, though you can make a stylistic choice as to where it ends: * You can end input as early as possible, letting the game play itself out to completion no matter how long it takes * Or you can end input when it's not possible to complete the game any faster with additional input
The game is completed here as the match is the game and is won. The movie aims here for the first possibility: "ending input as early as possible". We already encountered a movie obsoletion that could also happen here. Here is how feos dealt with it : Post #506461. A clear endpoint that we have here is the match's winning screen. This game has an in-game time and so we can eazily compare a run to another with both endpoint and IGT: - The extra goal delays the defined endpoint. - The fools happening during this movie delays the defined endpoint. This is why I think that a movie wich is even longer than this one in term of inputs but doesn't have (or less) events like the ones above that delays the end of the match should obsolete this movie in the future.
Post subject: Movie published
TASVideoAgent
They/Them
Moderator
Joined: 8/3/2004
Posts: 15629
Location: 127.0.0.1
This movie has been published. The posts before this message apply to the submission, and posts after this message apply to the published movie. ---- [5099] NES Wayne Gretzky Hockey by ShesChardcore in 00:05.97