这个改版优化了卡顿,并且修复了一些小bug,比如:修复了布鲁斯出现前可以移动的情况,进城堡动画时音乐没放完整,利用菜单页面来卡飞行莱西等等。此版本有快切但是有缺陷不能倒着切换,克制有大改动所以我的克制顺序是:磁铁>针刺>坚硬>蛇>影子>双子>火花>陀螺 隐藏boss的话我是选择从左上到左下依次选择的,由于克制众多我就不一一列举出来了,而我选择首发先选磁铁是因为,磁铁P子弹是两格血并且他克制针刺可以快速的拿到飞狗好节省流程的时间。另外虽说这个改版修复了一些bug不过还有个bug也是可以正常使用的,我在四个隐藏boss的右下角关卡有用到这个穿墙bug,利用飞行莱西把洛克人挤在墙里按住下在受伤的第一时间按选择键即可,因为这个改版有多路线设定,所以我在做之前有去探索其他路线来判断最短路线的方向,在W1关卡boss我利用控制洛克人攻击的时间来控制乱数,让乌龟在最快的时间下来以达到节省时间的目的。
这是此版本的链接:https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/7839/
这是我TAS视频的链接:https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV14k4y1M7DR/

nymx: Claiming for judging.

nymx: I'm setting this one aside until I'm able to get more info.

nymx: Unclaiming. I believe this one is going to take a person that is more familiar with Mega Man. Too much confusion for me to deal with. I've checked against many other videos and I'm having doubts.
longbao, please do not overwrite the judging notes at the bottom of any submissions.

Darkman425: First of all, restoring the judging notes that got lost from an earlier edit.
Second of all, hi hello I'm someone who's familiar with with Mega Man and the ROM hacks of the series. I'll take a closer look at this one by claiming it for judging.
Darkman425: Aside from taking the color gimmick of The Stage Nobody Asked For from Make a Good Mega Man Level 2 for use in this hack's Wily stage 2 and, more obviously, literally putting the original Mega Man 3 Wily stage 2 into this hack's Needle Man's stage, this hack has a lot of interesting gimmicks and branching paths that isn't typically found in a lot of standard Mega Man levels or even a number of hacks. While boss and enemy behavior is still how it was in Mega Man 3, the weakness changes do make some fights trickier when exploiting weaknesses.
The movement through levels seem solid and the routing is well thought out. However, some of the boss fights were a bit slower than they could have been. Mega Man 3 only starts the end of level animation when all of the boss explosions leave the screen. I can't really count that against you since the only mention of that specific knowledge was in these old submission notes. I added that info to the boss fighting guide so it's at least now somewhere else as well. Even then there were some bosses where getting a better pattern would speed the fight up slightly, though that's a bit harder to tell since some of the changed weaknesses are a bit less than ideal. Ultimately this would probably be a few potential seconds to the total time to save at best. This looks good overall.
Accepting to Standard.

despoa: Processing...


TASVideoAgent
They/Them
Moderator
Joined: 8/3/2004
Posts: 15629
Location: 127.0.0.1
This topic is for the purpose of discussing #8367: longbao's NES Megankreuzstilette in 30:22.55
Editor, Expert player (2080)
Joined: 6/15/2005
Posts: 3284
Is it this hack: https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/7839/ ? (It would help if the game title was correct.) Anyway, I didn't watch this TAS (since the author hasn't exactly posted their submissions in an accessible manner), but I saw a longplay, and this hack doesn't deserve to be named after Rosenkreuzstilette. Sure, the backgrounds in this hack are sometimes cool. But not justified in having "Kreuzstilette" in its name. (BTW the enemies and bosses are completely unchanged from MM3, and the weapons too. So it's pretty much a level modification hack of MM3 with some changed foreground/background graphics. Also the music is taken almost entirely from other NES Mega Man games.)
nymx
He/Him
Editor, Judge, Expert player (2255)
Joined: 11/14/2014
Posts: 933
Location: South Pole, True Land Down Under
longbao, I've noticed over the history of your submissions that your notes are extremely lacking in details for us to properly analyze your work. This one is no exception, as we have confusion still yet to sift through. Please response with some details that answers the question that FractalFusion has, as well as any other details that can help me to finalize my judgement of this submission. Thanks.
I recently discovered that if you haven't reached a level of frustration with TASing any game, then you haven't done your due diligence. ---- SOYZA: Are you playing a game? NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing. SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real? ---- Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes? Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :) ---- BOTing will be the end of all games. --NYMX
Editor, Reviewer, Skilled player (1361)
Joined: 9/12/2016
Posts: 1646
Location: Italy
FractalFusion wrote:
Is it this hack: https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/7839/ ? (It would help if the game title was correct.) Anyway, I didn't watch this TAS (since the author hasn't exactly posted their submissions in an accessible manner), but I saw a longplay, and this hack doesn't deserve to be named after Rosenkreuzstilette. Sure, the backgrounds in this hack are sometimes cool. But not justified in having "Kreuzstilette" in its name. (BTW the enemies and bosses are completely unchanged from MM3, and the weapons too. So it's pretty much a level modification hack of MM3 with some changed foreground/background graphics. Also the music is taken almost entirely from other NES Mega Man games.)
Even the maker of the hack describes it as "a vanilla hack" 😕
my personal page - my YouTube channel - my GitHub - my Discord: thunderaxe31 <Masterjun> if you look at the "NES" in a weird angle, it actually clearly says "GBA"
nymx
He/Him
Editor, Judge, Expert player (2255)
Joined: 11/14/2014
Posts: 933
Location: South Pole, True Land Down Under
longbao, if you are having trouble writing up your submission details, you can write up your submission notes in your native language. We can use google translate on this end. What we need from you are details pertaining to your ROM usage and notes on where to get the IPS file being used. In addition, any notes on the run itself will be helpful in judging.
I recently discovered that if you haven't reached a level of frustration with TASing any game, then you haven't done your due diligence. ---- SOYZA: Are you playing a game? NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing. SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real? ---- Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes? Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :) ---- BOTing will be the end of all games. --NYMX
Editor, Reviewer, Skilled player (1361)
Joined: 9/12/2016
Posts: 1646
Location: Italy
I was able to get the necessary hack ROM by appying the IPS patch on the ROM hash indicated on the romhacking.org page. The hash of the hacked ROM matched the hash contained in the fm2 file, and I was able to play back the whole movie and make a temp encode, that I added to the submission page.
my personal page - my YouTube channel - my GitHub - my Discord: thunderaxe31 <Masterjun> if you look at the "NES" in a weird angle, it actually clearly says "GBA"
CoolHandMike
He/Him
Editor, Judge, Experienced player (897)
Joined: 3/9/2019
Posts: 729
I am torn on this one. The tas is well done and entertaining with tricks being used, but certain things rub me the wrong way with this hack. Music seems messed up in the encode itself so I cannot praise or condemn it. There are reviews about this hack that mention just how the music was from other Megaman titles not whatever this turned into then muted for the rest of it. Also, 21:04 shows that the jet mode can be used to clip through areas in the hack, but I only see it used once when I would expect a glitch like that to be more frequently used. The Good Snake mid boss skip 6:06 Cirno Statue 10:55 Spark Man and Top Man Levels seem designed well This unusual puzzle 10:30 The robot bosses after the initial batch are bosses from previous MegaMan games which is neat The batch of bosses were cleared quite well Some Demons' Crest images I thought were fun 29:57 The Bad Hard to tell what is foreground and background. Seems to be deliberate at times. 0:45 24:12 The Ugly The palette is horrendous. The worst I have seen in any MegaMan hack. 6:49 12:24 15:25 Meh vote.
discord: CoolHandMike#0352
Post subject: Movie published
TASVideoAgent
They/Them
Moderator
Joined: 8/3/2004
Posts: 15629
Location: 127.0.0.1
This movie has been published. The posts before this message apply to the submission, and posts after this message apply to the published movie. ---- [5408] NES Megankreuzstilette by longbao in 30:22.55
Player (64)
Joined: 3/2/2007
Posts: 123
Location: Lake Havasu, Arizona
Hello. I only just now notitced this after it appeared on the front page of tasvideos. I just wanted to say i helped out alot with this hack. And.. i was very disappointed honestly that Jriva did not ever use any of the megaman 3 documents i had for literally anything whatsoever. He could have easily edited any of the bosses/mid-bosses, weapon colors in MegaFLE level editor, and many more dozens of things but he chose not to for some reason. I seriously wish he did "something" to any boss. I have a whole collection of megaman 3 documents, and their avaiable on romhacking.net too, but yea... dont know why he just ignored all of it. :( The TAS here is cool though. So i appreciate that by longbao.