This topic is for the purpose of discussing #9484: DarkRiolu27's NES Kirby's Adventure "game end glitch" in 00:34.41

Very nice run, and thanks for the explanation video! Yes vote.

Would it be a stretch to argue that only 18 days into 2025 we already have a "TAS of the Year" candidate? (Or at least a candidate for the best NES TAS of 2025...)

I've been following your userfiles and loved seeing the hard work you put into optimizing this game. You blew our run out of the water, pun intended! Your explanation video was helpful (though I had to rewind a lot to take in both your commentary and what was happening in the run) and showed the many nuances of KA's physics you were able to take advantage of. Seems you have a knack for solving these laggy early Kirby speedruns; hope we see more from you. Someone's got to tackle a Kirby Super Star improvement, no pressure there though.

Definitely one of the greatest game end glitch TASes. The author also made a clean and simple explanation of what is going on. A strong Yes vote of course!

Someone's got to tackle a Kirby Super Star improvement.

Agreed, it's been forever since we've seen any progress regarding that @~@; This is epic though. I voted Yes, looking forward to seeing an improvement to the any% run if possible.

Great TAS, and I love the explanation video comparing to the previous TAS and showing where time was saved. Very cool! It's always amazing seeing more than an entire second taken off of an already short run. Nice work!

Extremely easy 'Yes' vote. Nice work!

Okay but where is the frame war edit: If someone can throw a Lua script at me for BizHawk (MUGG's Lua script doesn't works while TAStudio is opened) or FCEUX I might check the TAS out edit2: Without Lua script, I watched the movie looks very impressive, very optimized! I've tried a bunch of different tricks in room 1 and none of them saved time: - 1st enemy action (explode earlier (this TAS), explode later, jump) - different jumping sequence (lag manipulation) But I could save 1-2 frames right at the end, when inhaling (U) and exhale (B) at the end. I don't know how to optimize the end of the room (after exhaling, 2-3 frames of R, empty, more R and dash to end), so I will upload 2 different version: V2 exhale at frame 897 - 2 frames saved User movie #638734043701335756 V3 exhale at frame 893 - 1 frame saved User movie #638734044089430066 This TAS exhales at 899. Note that the optimizable part is combination of: - timing of inhale and exhale - Y pos manipulation with A - X pos manipulation - Lag manipulation edit: This means it's not a definitive comparison point. The movie won't sync after this, and note that in this game, sometimes a single frame save might not possible to carry over through the other rooms. I personally think this TAS should be accepted, as there is no definitive proof it's improvable with this. (You are free to use these userfiles, no need for authorship/credits) (also sorry for the wall of text)

But I could save 1-2 frames right at the end, when inhaling (U) and exhale (B) at the end.

Good job saving those two lag frames. I tried redoing the second room to see if the frames would be lost, but it was actually more cooperative, allowing me to go at full speed without slowing down to compensate for lag like in my original movie. Similar story in the third room, saving 5 more frames for 9 saved overall. https://tasvideos.org/UserFiles/Info/638735213527052215 Might be best to pause publication for now. I'll wait a few days to see if any more improvements are found and then edit the run description and commentary video to reflect the changes next week.

9 saved overall.

Very nice! I downloaded "ka_viewer.lua" maybe from keyword. I'm currently trying some different minor X pos sacrifices in room 2 and trying to understand how does Kirby gets powerups from inhaling enemies (needed for room 3) Here's what I've tried without success: * room 2 start: sacrifice X pos before 1st red enemy while 2nd enemy "green slime on top of the hill" comes forward to us. --> Always slower or same time as your new movie, no matter if I sacrifice 1 frame at the end of room 1. (in Kirby's Adventure, sometimes you can sacrifice a single frame at the end of the level to get 1 lag frame fewer in the next room). * room 2 spitting star after jumping with different starting: 3 frames slower * room 3: get hit by monkey, kill 3rd enemy with invincibility --> many frames slower * room 3: inhale 3 enemies: no success to pull it off

An amazing improvement to a run I thought was almost perfected! Here's a lua script for TAStudio logging, unfortunately the branch comparision is not working properly. Select branch to compare with P and M. User movie #638735711231534860 Currently I don't have motivation for TASing, so best luck guys!

framewars is so back.

You get the roulette when you inhale two enemies that would both individually give an ability if swallowed. In room 3, the first ones to do that are that fire guy and the fourth enemy.

I couldn't find any improvement for DarkRiolu27's latest movie. Very optimized route and positionings/timings. Good job DarkRiolu27! The only thing I will try today is the final wall clipping before falling water, will edit this post once I'm done testing it. edit: found nothing, great as it is :) For corrupt ending, change from S to L+R+S @ frame 2058