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Omega wrote:
I LOVED it when you shot to the left right before finishing off Elec.
I don't know why you say that. I only shot because I couldn't make Elecman jump otherwise at the right moment...
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OK, I'll be the one to ask. What's going on with this new manuever? Is there a precise frame to jump off of the ladder that allows Rock to defy all physics?
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feitclub wrote:
OK, I'll be the one to ask. What's going on with this new manuever? Is there a precise frame to jump off of the ladder that allows Rock to defy all physics?
When you press UP at a ladder while being too high to actually climb it, you'll end up somewhat above the ladder. Pressing UP+DOWN at the top of the ladder bears the same consequence. If it is a wall there... well, there you go.
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So lovely. I hope there's quite some places where there's a chance to perform it.
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Fihlvein wrote:
I hope there's quite some places where there's a chance to perform it.
Elecman level has the highest concentration of those places, but fortunately that's not the only trick I have.
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Bisqwit wrote:
There's one dilemma though: Killing Elecman using Guts weapon takes about 8 seconds, whereas killing him using the basic weapon takes 31 seconds. This is a major problem which only appears if Elecman level is played before Cut/Guts levels. If using the magnet beam in Gutsman level saves 23 seconds over a non-magnet-beam version of Gutsman level, this plan works. The lift sequence saves about 13 seconds.
I tested out the Gutsman level using magnet beam. As the result, I ended up saving 26 seconds in that level compared to the previous movie. I needed to save 23 seconds, so this new strategy appears indeed profitable. I'll continue this way. :) Here is a FCM that demonstrates the playing of the Gutsman level. https://files.tasvideos.org/bisqwit/bisqwit-rockmanv6-incomplete-with-gutsman-demo.fcm The movie contains the Elecman level I previously linked, appended by the Gutsman level. The interesting bit is how I use the magnet beam to move downwards faster than just falling free. The actual movie will continue to the Iceman level instead of the Gutsman level.
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Man, that's got to feel good, knowing that it'll work. Awesome.
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I can't seem to load the bisqwit-rockmanv6-incomplete-with-gutsman-demo.fcm in my FCE Ultra. The Rockman.fcm worked fine though. Really amazing glitch you've got there. :)
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Highness wrote:
I can't seem to load the bisqwit-rockmanv6-incomplete-with-gutsman-demo.fcm in my FCE Ultra.
Possibly because the server transferred it as "text/plain", breaking the binary format. Try downloading it again, I changed the MIME setting.
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Looks great, I can't wait.
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It worked great now. Thanks Bisqwit. Awesome movie. The new movie will be very interesting.
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I couldn't ever even imagine this game could be done faster :D
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Oh yes it will :P
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nice! How much will it be improved by time?
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I'm aiming for at least 30 seconds of improvement, but even 50 might be possible... So far, I have worked out 16 seconds of improvement in 3 levels (of which 2 are played), but I need to redo Iceman because it can be improved by a few seconds more.
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WOW! Thats something. When one thought you had a pretty unbeatable time earlier. :D This will be sooooo cool. Stash up with coffee now Bisqwit, because if I caught you sleeping, I will lash you with my 9-tailed whip. ;) I expect to see the new movie in the middle of next week, latest. Bwahahah. J/K man. Good luck.
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I usually hate to say it but on this one, I just can't wait for this baby!
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I agree with Highness ;D
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Highness wrote:
Stash up with coffee now Bisqwit, because if I caught you sleeping, I will lash you with my 9-tailed whip. ;)
Well... exactly lack of sleep is probably why I'm going almost straight to bed (or at least be too tired to work on that movie) today after work.
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*shakes Bisqwit around* WAKE UP DUDE!!! IT'S ROCKMAN TIME!!! =)
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Once you finish with this rockman run, are you going to go to rockman2? I've been waiting to see this rerun for like a year! (hasn't it been out about that long?)
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Spider-Waffle wrote:
Once you finish with this rockman run, are you going to go to rockman2? I've been waiting to see this rerun for like a year! (hasn't it been out about that long?)
No, apparently Finalfighter is doing it. And he's less busy than Morimoto, so he might actually complete it. :P
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Hasn't Morimoto already done the largest part of the Rockman 2 run? I think that last time I checked his site, it said that he only had to do Wood Man and the Wily stages. I figure it's possible to link everything together once you've made the individual runs.
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Omega wrote:
Hasn't Morimoto already done the largest part of the Rockman 2 run? I think that last time I checked his site, it said that he only had to do Wood Man and the Wily stages. I figure it's possible to link everything together once you've made the individual runs.
Morimoto has done until the Metal Man level, and Finalfighter is considering publishing that movie, as an option. But he won't apparently do it without Morimoto's permission. And no, Rockman 1 and 2 are hell for trying to copypaste things together. When I tried to do that in Rockman 1, I found out that Rockman would sometimes miss a jump or platform by 1 pixel 20 seconds later from the point where the copypaste occured. (Adjusting 1 frame to direction or the other would have made it desync immediately at the point of pasting.)
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Sounds like a tricky game indeed. Whats your status now Bisqwit? How far have you come with your Rockman 1 run?