Post subject: MM desync is worse on bizhawk then mupen
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MM is even worse now ever since i fixed my bizhawk issue, i was using an older version of bizhawk and i moved to 1.7.2 . Ever since then i just moved to 1.7.4 and the desync is even worse i have to play the movie back nearly every single second. Please tell me guys if this is the same issue for you guys. And if so how can i possibly fix this Aldo i am really starting to rage over this, i got up to GBT and it then just went all to crap there
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your computer malfunctioned. open the cupholder and insert a slice of salami. Looks like your computer is missing files to run BizHawk proberly, those may not be with the prerey installer.
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TASeditor wrote:
Looks like your computer is missing files to run BizHawk proberly, those may not be with the prerey installer.
Hmmmm maybe if someone made a new prereq installer it might fix the issue, it also works fine with everything else. Just mm won't suffice i guess.
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If it works better in the older version of Bizhawk just use that version.
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Patashu wrote:
If it works better in the older version of Bizhawk just use that version.
^this. Emulators tend to change a lot in terms of stability and emulation. Look at DesmuME for a good example. The best solution is to stick with what you have.
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We tested that and bizhawk still syncs extremely well with MM. It's just TAG fucking shit up again.
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Slowking wrote:
We tested that and bizhawk still syncs extremely well with MM. It's just TAG fucking shit up again.
Well i sorted the issue out, i have some Z Buffer (idk what it is called) thing on But anyway, no need ti ask more questions i'll creep back into oblivion now. Also why say "fucking shit" when you can substitute bad language for good language
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Slowking wrote:
We tested that and bizhawk still syncs extremely well with MM. It's just TAG fucking shit up again.
Calm down?
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got4n wrote:
Slowking wrote:
We tested that and bizhawk still syncs extremely well with MM. It's just TAG fucking shit up again.
Calm down?
nah i deserve it in some aspects because of how much of a pain in the ass i am. anyway i would post some TASes of MM i made but i can't seem to figure out this messaging system yet lol.
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here are some of my MM TASes i made https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoNDwljTyZI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q99I06dFHos i hope you like them. yes you may say bad things about them if you wish
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got4n wrote:
Calm down?
Totally calm, just stating fact and using some profanity for emphasis. ;)
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Slowking wrote:
got4n wrote:
Calm down?
Totally calm, just stating fact and using some profanity for emphasis. ;)
I apologise then for mis understanding.
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Fixing page 144 This is still happening huh (page issue. Rhetorical)
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how does one fix this issue?
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TAG wrote:
how does one fix this issue?
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I have no creative juices and i am wondering if any of you would request me to do a TAS for you. I want to do a 100 sub TAS so i want to make it cool
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TAG wrote:
I have no creative juices and i am wondering if any of you would request me to do a TAS for you. I want to do a 100 sub TAS so i want to make it cool
Er, all right then. Collect the Bunny Hood in as little time as possible.
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arandomgameTASer wrote:
TAG wrote:
I have no creative juices and i am wondering if any of you would request me to do a TAS for you. I want to do a 100 sub TAS so i want to make it cool
Er, all right then. Collect the Bunny Hood in as little time as possible.
Alrighty then i will do that. Edit: where should i start from?
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TAG wrote:
arandomgameTASer wrote:
TAG wrote:
I have no creative juices and i am wondering if any of you would request me to do a TAS for you. I want to do a 100 sub TAS so i want to make it cool
Er, all right then. Collect the Bunny Hood in as little time as possible.
Alrighty then i will do that. Edit: where should i start from?
A savefile after just finishing cycle 1 is the usual place.
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Patashu wrote:
TAG wrote:
arandomgameTASer wrote:
TAG wrote:
I have no creative juices and i am wondering if any of you would request me to do a TAS for you. I want to do a 100 sub TAS so i want to make it cool
Er, all right then. Collect the Bunny Hood in as little time as possible.
Alrighty then i will do that. Edit: where should i start from?
A savefile after just finishing cycle 1 is the usual place.
Can i have items already or do i have to TAS me buying them too
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TAG wrote:
Patashu wrote:
TAG wrote:
arandomgameTASer wrote:
TAG wrote:
I have no creative juices and i am wondering if any of you would request me to do a TAS for you. I want to do a 100 sub TAS so i want to make it cool
Er, all right then. Collect the Bunny Hood in as little time as possible.
Alrighty then i will do that. Edit: where should i start from?
A savefile after just finishing cycle 1 is the usual place.
Can i have items already or do i have to TAS me buying them too
Whatever makes it more interesting to watch.
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Patashu wrote:
TAG wrote:
Patashu wrote:
TAG wrote:
arandomgameTASer wrote:
TAG wrote:
I have no creative juices and i am wondering if any of you would request me to do a TAS for you. I want to do a 100 sub TAS so i want to make it cool
Er, all right then. Collect the Bunny Hood in as little time as possible.
Alrighty then i will do that. Edit: where should i start from?
A savefile after just finishing cycle 1 is the usual place.
Can i have items already or do i have to TAS me buying them too
Whatever makes it more interesting to watch.
I guess watching me buy items is a bore. I'll start with some action
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Slowking wrote:
So routing... Goron village sadly isn't accessable on J in first cycle. So that leaves us with either getting SoS or doing what we have always done, get like 160r.... I'm going to assume that we are getting SoS for now. So here is a very rough route: Cycle 1: - make it night of day 3 - escape - Milk road - sticks and nuts from swamp owl - pop into deku palace - SoS - CS death warp to CT Cycle 2: - Play sodt - get SoH - get 99r chest - buy bomb bag and chus (20b 10c) (9r) - SoS to GB - Get Zora mask - HISS to south GB (leaver) - super swim to Zora hall (leaver) - SoS to mountain village, hiss off owl (20b 9c) - hiss to goron village off leaver - SoS to ST - Jump down and recoil into loading zone (19b 9c) - hiss to edge of canyon pull bomb during slide (17b 8c) - mega or recoil flip over river, pull bomb during flip (16b 8c) - slide to swamp - slide to woods of mistery (16b 7c) - slide in woods of mistery (16b 6c) - recoil flip out (15b 6c) - slide to ladder (15b 5c) - returnA slide past big Octos (15b 4c) - Deku Palace, 2 chus for shenanigans on the planks, hiss through, hover in (14, 1c)(10r) - Get SoA - Warp to CT - Hiss to Bremen mask (14b 0c) - bottle dupe over bremen, sticks and nuts (70r) - buy 20 chus (14b 20c)(0r) - SoS to GB - SS through PF intro CS onto a boat (13b 19c) - SSwim through first PF room -> hiss (13b 18c) - hover over gap (11b 17c) - hiss up (11b 16c) - jump to tank (10b 16c) - hookshot egg1 - hookshot to pole, recoil flip to egg 2 (10b 15c) - hookshot back, a-slide to egg 3 (10b 14c) - pirate fight skip (8b 10c) - soar to labratory, deposit eggs - recoil SSwim to pinnacle (probably not worth to switch in explosives and take off mask) - recoil SSwim in pinnacle - get eggs, clip out - recoil SSwim to observatory - deposit eggs, warp to turtle owl while learning song - do two CS skips - GBT BK skip (7b 10c) - beat temple, learn OtO - warp to woodfall, get stick - use hookshot to get to bow - store SoT by clipping through with chu slide (7b 9c) - hiss off pots to bk skip point, pull out bomb on the way (6b 8c) - BK skip (0b 1c) - beat odolwa, grab mask, save, reset (as you can see there is 1 chus left. So maybe somebody can think of good spots to blow it) Cycle 3: - Warp to SH, get 5b from owl drop (5b) - hiss and get 5 more one the way by starting new hiss (8b) - block+text skip - get 5b from icicle (13b) - recoil flip over gap to freezard (or other side of bridge if possible) (12b) - weird shot (11b) - 2 recoil flips to wizrobe (9b) - sadly have to do wizrobe with hookshot and sword - grunz strat to snowballs + slide through snowballs (5b) - store SoT (4b) - get over last gap (2b) - BK skip (1b) - unfreeze ghot - little slide (0b) - kill ghot with arrows (probably needs testing if it's worth to switch to normal arrows or just use fire until magic runs out) - grab mask, save reset (this cycle has a few uncertainties in that we don't knwo exactly how many hisses it will take to get up to SHT on J and how many bomb drops we can farm on the way. But it should be easily adjustable on the fly, without impacting anything else) Cycle 4: - get 99r from ect chest with zora foreward backflip - buy 20 chus - soar to st, get 5 bombs next to owl (5b 20c) - isg, backwalk, go-around-strat (4b 17c) - slide in first room (4b 16c) - block clip (4b 15c) - get small key, waste magic on the way - a-slide into weird shot -> clip (4b 15c) - weird shot (4b 14c) - defeat garo master with fire arrows, take some damage while doing so - get light arrows - kill yourself (4b 13c) - weird shoot jewel to invert tower (4b 12c) - angle jump (3b 12c) - store sot - BK skip (2b 1c) (BK skip is an approximation, considering mega hovers usually span about 3 normal chu hovers. Tbh I'm not sure if it's true and if so, if it even would be faster, in this case, where you also lose height and thus have a lot longer megaflips in there. So what I'm saying is, this needs testing and maybe a better spot to waste all the chus. Maybe some weird twinmold fight? If the TASer decided to do the mega hovers instead, there would be just enough bombs for it.) Cycle 5: - get stick and explosives - hover into tower and defeat MM (So I'm not really sure where to get this stuff. If we get it from the field, we have to take the intro CS, as we've never been there. We coald soar to woodfall and to zora cape, but that seems pretty slow. We could buy a stick and some chus, which is probably a little faster than soaring around, but also not very fast. So not sure what to do exactly. Edit: Just looked and southern swamp bushes have bombs and ofcourse the owl has a stick. So I'd say soar there and get stick and 5-10 bombs Edit2: The drop rate for bombs in the swamp is relatively low. Which might be why it was previously thought to be non existent. You have to have full quiver, and you have to have a quiver for that in the first place, and then the game will give you up to 10 bombs there, but not more.) There you have it. I hope you'll comment on it, tell me what's wrong with it and give me suggestions for improvents. :) Shoutouts and all my thanks to GlitchesAndStuff, who tested a lot and still does and discussed most of the route with me. Also thanks to mmFruit, who knows basically everything about this game, it seems.
Now that it's been a while since this route has been posted, have there been any updates? I think I'm willing to help out if it's needed.
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Slowking wrote:
So routing... Goron village sadly isn't accessable on J in first cycle. So that leaves us with either getting SoS or doing what we have always done, get like 160r....
Wait, there are (U) only tricks? How much time does (U) specific tricks must save so that it would be faster than (J)?