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Thinks, it's End of SSF2 - TNC using Ken. Think again? There is lot more to perform. This movie show the latest combos moves & used more combos variety from start to end. Highest combo hit is 11. This is 13 seonds (guess what, faster) No This is 13 second slower than previous published version by (_Saturn_) But this movie Beats the Saturn's Run in following ways
  • More Better combos variety (Conditional Combos)
  • Car Challenge is 2 Game Second Faster
  • 11 Max Hit Combo, Saturn did 8 Hits.
  • Hightest Score
When i started it i knew that i will go out of time, just because of more difficult combos i used to make the movie entertaining to watch. I think there is no more left in SSF2 - TNC for Ken (I used every possible move/conditional move. For those who are new to watch Fighting Games Superplay, Continue talking here to get more information about Combos/Conditional Combos/Infinites & So...
Before Voting I reccommend you to watch it at 85% speed so you can feel the combos deeply...Also compare this to Saturn's Currently Published & my Unpublished version. Do not vote Meh/No because of 13 second slow time, I already beat Saturn's Currently published version. Combos variety is more important than time in Fighting Game Superplay,

Bisqwit: This submission is rejected because the author broke some rules regarding voting (sending "vote please" private messages to dozens of users at the Nesvideos board).
Bisqwit: Submission renewed with votes cleared. Most of the spam privmsgs were also deleted from the system.

Truncated: Waiting for information from Shakespeare, see question in the thread.
Truncated: Shakespeare has OK:ed publication of this version, without any new fights hexed in.
Shakespeare: I am sorry But I am cancelling it, After watcing it again & again I am not satisfied with some fights, as i said before. I will do it later.


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This topic is for the purpose of discussing #926: Radz's SNES Super Street Fighter II in 11:44.88
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After watching this closely and comparing with the currently published run, I'm voting YES on this. It's true that it's 13 seconds slower, but I think you did a few more interesting combos, and in a game like SSF2 I think that entertainment should be prioritized before speed. Great job with all those combos, I'm no Street fighter expert, but I've played some in my days, and I found all your combos very interesting. You seem to have full knowledge on all possible ways to kick the opponents ass in this game ;) So good job!
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Randil wrote:
I'm no Street fighter expert, but I've played some in my days, and I found all your combos very interesting. You seem to have full knowledge on all possible ways to kick the opponents ass in this game ;) So good job!
Thanks for voting ;) i m playing Street Fighter Series from 10 years, This is fully planned run & took 3+ months to execute. Between the perfect execution i played, replayed (sometime from beginning again) Because i want to make it a 100% voted run which no 1 can beat. And I hope it will get 100% vote :P More Voters Please :-)
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This one looks really good. I have never seen so many different and crazy combos before. Working on it more than 3 months is a true dedication and it must be rewarded. I as a competitor will vote YES for this one. Good Job!
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This was a great watch, especially the second half (from Zangief on). Not just a good variety of combos - an 11 hit combo, re-dizzy combo, exploiting weaknesses in the AI of certain fighters (Balrog, for example), crazy use of the Hurricane Kick - but lots of little stuff that's nice, like getting all the different kinds of dizzy at least once (I always liked the grim reaper dizzy sound effect), knocking off Vega's claw, etc...just finding interesting ways to dominate the game. Nice job.
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JXQ wrote:
This was a great watch, especially the second half (from Zangief on). Not just a good variety of combos - an 11 hit combo, re-dizzy combo, exploiting weaknesses in the AI of certain fighters (Balrog, for example), crazy use of the Hurricane Kick - but lots of little stuff that's nice, like getting all the different kinds of dizzy at least once (I always liked the grim reaper dizzy sound effect), knocking off Vega's claw, etc...just finding interesting ways to dominate the game. Nice job.
You actually clearify the movie description, Thanks A lot. More Voters Please.
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slower, but more entertaining. I'd vote yes anyday, as SF-games aren't really made for speedrunning.
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for some reason, i didnt like your barrel bonus stage.. but anyway, im voting yes, because overall it was a gj^^
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daniayaw wrote:
for some reason, i didnt like your barrel bonus stage..
I really did'nt aim for that one... I don't think it can be entertaining in any way... anyway Thnx for Voting. It's slow, but good response to this timeattack.
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First fight (Dhalsim): Liked the first round, excellent variety. Didnt like so much the end of second round because of your throw which takes too long to perform so you could have chosen to throw him with Ken's other throwing techique which has less animation. Second fight (Deejay): Good first round, nothing special to say about the second round. Third fight (Guile): What I noticed in the second round is that you use the flying kick technique to move forward rather than walking which is pretty clever I might add :) Same thing with the first bonus stage, you used your flying technique to move faster to the other side of the car, once again, clever move. Forth fight (Cammy): Nothing special to say about this fight. Fifht fight (E-HONDA!!): Nice you let us see when he tries to attack you with that "thousand fist of fury" thingy. Sixth fight (FeiLong): Many kicks towards Fei's head, nice. Absolutely loved your speed through the second bonus stage. Seventh fight (Zangief): Did not enjoy seeing you throw punches without hitting him but liked the second round as you showed some variety in your punching. Eight fight (T-Hawk): same as the Cammy fight, nothing particular to add here. Ninth fight (Balrog): 10 hits in the first round, Awesome! Second round was also entertaining :) Almost thought you missed a barrel there :D Tenth fight (Vega): Vega dropped his iron claw in the second round, thats the only thing I found most interesting not that your fight was bad or anything. Eleventh fight (Sagat): Beautiful first round, 9 hit combo and hell, the second round you hit that tall bastard with a 11 hit combo! Need I say more? :) Final fight (M.Bison): Ken kicks Bisons butt and marries Eliza, happy ending :) Overall, I actually enjoyed more your Ken fight than Saturns (not that Saturns run were bad) and I have no doubt voting yes on your run. Good job Shakespeare :D
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Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
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AngerFist wrote:
Didnt like so much the end of second round because of your throw which takes too long to perform so you could have chosen to throw him with Ken's other throwing techique which has less animation.
I used it, because its looks interesting that Ken is almost touching Dhalsim attack.
AngerFist wrote:
Eight fight (T-Hawk): same as the Cammy fight, nothing particular to add here.
Well At this stage, you pointed out, Both are almost same. Now I must say It's hardest to make every fight different than older. Why? Becuase Moves are same...
AngerFist wrote:
Tenth fight (Vega): Vega dropped his iron claw in the second round, thats the only thing I found most interesting not that your fight was bad or anything.
One more thing, I used back+huricane kick. This is actually a conditional combo & hard to find, you must learn CPU attacks.
AngerFist wrote:
Eleventh fight (Sagat): Beautiful first round, 9 hit combo and hell, the second round you hit that tall bastard with a 11 hit combo! Need I say more? :)
Sagat round, Actually the Heart of Movie. if he did'nt get dizzy. A 12-13 Hits Combo is possible, Maybe Infinity Thanks for a Breaf Explanation ;)
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This movie is well done, ut it didn't impress me. Voted Meh.
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Guybrush wrote:
This movie is well done, ut it didn't impress me. Voted Meh.
Waoo.... At first sight you say This movie is well done & other sight you voted meh without telling why? you did'nt like what? combos or combination. i was'nt expecting any bad votes, becuase i work hard on this one. i am surprised that you voted meh.
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Shakespeare wrote:
Guybrush wrote:
This movie is well done, ut it didn't impress me. Voted Meh.
Waoo.... At first sight you say This movie is well done & other sight you voted meh without telling why? you did'nt like what? combos or combination. i was'nt expecting any bad votes, becuase i work hard on this one. i am surprised that you voted meh.
It's sure you worked hard on this, I don't doubt it. But this movie just didn't impress me enough, that's why I voted meh. I didn't like it when all of your attacks don't hit, your combos became boring after a while. But I see this movie is well done, that's why I didn't vote no.
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Guybrush wrote:
I didn't like it when all of your attacks don't hit, your combos became boring after a while. But I see this movie is well done, that's why I didn't vote no.
Yeah i can think... it will be boring to watch same gameplay. But there is no other ways.... Comparing it to older ones will surely make yourself to vote yes, thats what i think. anyway everyone got own point of view. Thanks for Voting.
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Cool, cool, cool, cool. Also, awesome. I'm not sure how this stacks up against Saturn's video (which I happened to watch yesterday) in terms of which one is better and not just newer, so I won't be voting just yet. I think what we need to see now is a video of Shakespeare vs himself, controlling both characters. :)
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Shakespeare wrote:
But there is no other ways.... Comparing it to older ones will surely make yourself to vote yes, thats what i think.
Comparing it to Saturn's published run, sure. That's why I voted yes on your run a while back. But comparing to some of the choreographed combo movies on the web shows why it was reasonable to hold off for a long time on publishing Saturn's SSF2 movies. Fighting games rarely make good TAS's. As a street fighter expert, you're probably familiar with these videos which are much more entertaining. Plenty of viewers were overly excited in some of the old SSF2 threads on this site, so my guess is that a lot of people here haven't actually seen true combo vids to compare. Yes I'm comparing apples and oranges, but this does put into perspective the entertainment value and overall worth of fighting game runs in general. I sure hope noone goes through with that Killer Instinct TAS idea.
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hanzou wrote:
As a street fighter expert, you're probably familiar with these videos which are much more entertaining.
I didn't know of this site, but I just watched the Akuma video, and I thought it was lame. Maybe it was the presentation's fault (having random color lines across some of the screens, having tilted and mirrored screens), but I personally enjoyed this run more than a bunch of long combos pasted together, many of which were vs. Zangief (since his gigantic body is easier to combo). The appeal for this run to me was "How will Shakespeare make each fight interesting?" and for most rounds, my question was answered.
Hanzou wrote:
I sure hope noone goes through with that Killer Instinct TAS idea.
I bet if you picked a character with a deep enough diversity in combo, it might be alright. Related funny.
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Dromiceius wrote:
I think what we need to see now is a video of Shakespeare vs himself, controlling both characters. :)
Come On, I think you are kidding... ;)
hanzou wrote:
Shakespeare wrote:
But there is no other ways.... Comparing it to older ones will surely make yourself to vote yes, thats what i think.
Comparing it to Saturn's published run, sure. That's why I voted yes on your run a while back. But comparing to some of the choreographed combo movies on the web shows why it was reasonable to hold off for a long time on publishing Saturn's SSF2 movies. Fighting games rarely make good TAS's. As a street fighter expert, you're probably familiar with these videos which are much more entertaining. Plenty of viewers were overly excited in some of the old SSF2 threads on this site, so my guess is that a lot of people here haven't actually seen true combo vids to compare. Yes I'm comparing apples and oranges, but this does put into perspective the entertainment value and overall worth of fighting game runs in general.
Well, If you Know me already, Shakespeare - Ownner of KOF Dangerous. I am playing fighting games probably from last 7-9 years Combos videos can't be compared to Timeattacks, This ones aims to do various possible combos in less time. You are showing SF Turbo combos to us, How it can be compared to this game? any sence? Turbo combos are more easier to execute than normal, Doing conditional combos in harder mode is much more harder than doing normal combos against standing C.P.U player. This one shows every possible combos against different charecter, Most of them are new, And i am sure nobody knew them already.... Can you still compare?
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Please Vote at my Super Street Fighter 2 - The New Challengers Submission. I will be thankfull to you... http://tasvideos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3232
Alright then. My Vote: Meh. Reason Being: I didn't find it very entertaining, but then again, after that Zangief run, I dunno if that's very fair... So, instead of voting "No," I voted "Meh".
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That was a very nice movie, Shakespeare. I especially liked those combos you did on Sagat. One thing that I'm unclear about is why you did so many attacks that missed. Was it some sort of manipulation of the computer?
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Dacicus wrote:
One thing that I'm unclear about is why you did so many attacks that missed. Was it some sort of manipulation of the computer?
No Luck manipulation. If I do not miss anything, C.P.U will looks as freeze opponent. Only few combos. so tried to do some different things.
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the whole time watching, im wondering how an IDLE video of this would be accepted. i mean by simply waiting and then counterattacking your opponent (as they try and attack you) into massive combos and then backing off. nice video... i was a little worried that i missed the 11 hit combo until the end. i gotta say, some of those insane combos REALLY sway my vote. with as many votes as you've had, im surprised no decision has been made yet... or have i just not updated in 4 hours? i do that sometimes.
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"Voting" no. Other than your Sagat Round 2 fight, I was not impressed. First off, too many rounds started the same way. Shourken was WAY too predictable to start a round. Second, hadoken spamming is just a big fat yawn. Most noticable in E.Honda fight. It's great you took no damage, and had an 11-hit combo, but some of these fights need to go much better. I can't help you in the how, because I'm not a fighter player, but this was not very entertaining. Sending PM spam begging me to vote wasn't very appreciated either, but I ignored that in my judgment.
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Sir VG wrote:
It's great you took no damage, and had an 11-hit combo, but some of these fights need to go much better. I can't help you in the how, because I'm not a fighter player, but this was not very entertaining.
You can't help me how? you are not a fighter player? So how can you say it's not entertaining? did you even compare this to told run? any answer?
Sir VG wrote:
Sending PM spam begging me to vote wasn't very appreciated either, but I ignored that in my judgment.
I contacted all users who posted at previous SF2 run, nobody said like that. Saying players to judge and vote on a movie is begging? so every is begger here. Just open and refresh your mind...
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