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 *Aims for fastest time
 *Takes damage to save time
 *Uses more skips
I have broken the record of "Hudson's Adventure Island 3(U)".
I finished it in 00:18:51.
  • Main Difference
 
The biggest difference is that I used more "skips".There are 8 fields in this game.
Every field has its secret method to skip.
For example,in act2 field 1,breaking the wall above the magma can lead to a secret place,
where you can choose the normal way or a different one.
If the "skip" way is chosen,you only have to complete 2 acts then it comes the BOSS stage while the normal way has 3 acts.
Fields 1,3,7,8 belong to this kind.
Another kind of skip is more useful to save time,in that place you can choose to ignore the last acts of this field and fly to the next one directly,
as in field 2,5 and 6.
Field 4 is a special one,no BOSS skip and the normal way is a little faster.
  • How to use the crystals
    
The crystal can counteract one hit of the animy.We can use it when we do have to slow down.
As in the sea water,like act 3,stage 1,I have to avoid the big shrimp and not eat the chicken at the same time.
It's hardly impossable,but using acrystal can help to make it.
Another occasion is the fight against the BOSS.Crystal is used to counteract the BOSS's hit.
Two crystals were used in stage 7 and 8.
  • Try to have little fruits
Fruits can increase the time limit sticks.
Too many time sticks will waste time at the end of an act zone.
In act 1,stage 1,stepping on the obstacle will waste a little time but at the same time release the time sticks by two.
But we can't judge if it is faster or not by our eyes.
So I played this act in too ways:using obstacle and no obstacle.
Then the whole length frames of this act is 2054 to 2058.
That's why I stepped on the obstacle consciously,it's 4 frames faster.
Avoiding the fruits is not so easy.As in act4,stage1 above the clouds.
But in later steges of this game,there is not so many fruits like before and the bad insect can release the time sticks rapidly.
These all help to keep the time stick just at one.It's the perfect case.
  • Which is faster,the flying beast or the green rolling rhinoceros?
To find the answer we can go through the same act twice using too different beasts,no lag and no fruits in both plays.
At last we find it's always two time sticks fewer using the flying beast than the rolling one.
Does it mean that the big bird is slower?
No.
Observing it carefully we can discover a secret that at the beginning of an act,if using the rolling animal we will have EIGHT time sticks while using the bird we only have SIX sticks.
Always two sticks fewer just tell us that the two beasts have the SAME speed.
But using the bird is easier for us to keep the time stick just at one.
Thanks to Sami's movie,it tells me some secrets I didn't know before.
I like this game very much.It's full of secrets and pleasantly surprise.
adelikat: Accepting for publication as an improvement to the current published movie.
adelikat: Setting this one to cancelling for the author. He has improved it here.


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Yes.The moie take advantage of "skip",and improved sevel minutes. • trying to discover new glitches; • trying to get better precision by monitoring subpixel position; • trying to reduce lag; • trying to manipulate luck as good as it theoretically can be.
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Why did you cancel this? Did you find a faster way?
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Oh, no, I must have maken some misdakes.I didn't wish to cancel it.
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Vote: Meh Your doing your warp on Hudson's Adventure Island 3 Speed Run. Did you make few mistakes on your speed run? When you gonna make the improvement on no warp Hudson's Adventure Island 3 speed run? Undead invalid building location:I cannot summon there.
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I'm very sorry.I'm a new player to tasvideos,and my English is not so good.I wanted to write a detailed description but cancelled it mistakenly. I've heard that a player's first movis is usually not accepted.It's a very strict place.But I like it.Only on this site I can see the real meaning of SPEEDRUN.
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I mean to the "skip".In fact I'm not sure if it is a kind of "warp",but it's really a faster way.
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ECCO wrote:
I'm very sorry.I'm a new player to tasvideos,and my English is not so good.I wanted to write a detailed description but cancelled it mistakenly. I've heard that a player's first movis is usually not accepted.It's a very strict place.But I like it.Only on this site I can see the real meaning of SPEEDRUN.
So, did you accidently set to Decision: Cancelled?
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Yes.That's what I have done.
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I watched this and found it reasonably entertaining. The bosses were the least interesting part, so I would vote for this to obsolete the warpless run.
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upthorn wrote:
I watched this and found it reasonably entertaining. The bosses were the least interesting part, so I would vote for this to obsolete the warpless run.
Should it obsolete the warpless run, or to be published along the side?
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KRocketneo wrote:
Should it obsolete the warpless run, or to be published along the side?
Uhh..
upthorn wrote:
The bosses were the least interesting part, so I would vote for this to obsolete the warpless run.
upthorn wrote:
I would vote for this to obsolete the warpless run.
upthorn wrote:
obsolete the warpless run.
He said it right there.
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In fact,the last movie by Sami also has a "skip",in field 3.But his purpose is to use the flying beast.Is this a kind of warp,too?
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I'm Sorry,warp not wrap,I've made a spelling mistake.
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Just use the edit function. It's on the top right of each post in the forum.
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OK,I saw it.Thank you.
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Zurreco wrote:
KRocketneo wrote:
Should it obsolete the warpless run, or to be published along the side?
Uhh..
upthorn wrote:
The bosses were the least interesting part, so I would vote for this to obsolete the warpless run.
upthorn wrote:
I would vote for this to obsolete the warpless run.
upthorn wrote:
obsolete the warpless run.
He said it right there.
Ok, I agreed with Upthorn, this will obsolete the Warpless run.
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You're missing the point of my post, but whatever.
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I've writen a detailed explanation. It cost me a whole night's time to explain it in English. Hope that you can understand my words.
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Voting yes, watching AI for too long must be avoided, so the shorter the movie, the better.
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Well this is much faster as my movie because you use world warps. Its good but i like warpless more. Voting meh
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Voting yes, as it makes watching Adventure Island a little more tolerable.
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Looked pretty good... especially considering this game has the most visually repulsive hero in the history of videogaming. Fortunately, he and his provocative skirt are cleverly concealed by dinosaurs most of the time. Yes vote. Edit: as for the warping vs not warping, less is more in this game. Nevertheless, I've made no assumption about separate tiers/possible obsolescence.
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Baxter wrote:
Voting yes, watching AI for too long must be avoided, so the shorter the movie, the better.
Exactly. This warpless run is of very high quality. And due to the repetitive nature of the adventure island series, warps should be used whenever possible. I am accepting this run for publication as an obsoletion to the published run.
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When I watched sami's run I noticed a mistake. I watched your movie again and noticed it too. In the vertical cloud level at around frame 20000. Your movie gets to the black screen of that level at 20989. I begin moving to the right at 20497 and becuase of this, I get to the black screen at 20961. That is a 28 frame improvement. Keep this in mind if you ever make a new version.
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