Posted: 10/1/2007 10:59 PM
Post subject: Super SWIV
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Neophos
Joined: 9/30/2007
Posts: 103
Is there any interest in this game? For those who don't know, Super SWIV is a vertical-scrolling shooting game. By normal standards, it's also pretty damn hard. Usually, those kinds of games perhaps don't lend themselves very well to TAS'ing, but SWIV got some perhaps nifty stuff that could spice up a TAS. - You can shoot in all 8 directions with the jeep, making for more varied ways of killing stuff (unlike Gradius and the like were you can usually just shoot straight) - The hitbox detection is downright horrible. You could probably have a lot of fun dodging stuff due to the cruddy hitboxes. - There's enough weapons to add some variety to the mix. I'll stop before I start sounding like a commercial. Anyway, I made a small WIP of a small part of the first level. Think it got any potential? http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/712462807/Super%20SWIV.smv
Posted: 10/2/2007 12:16 AM
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ElectroSpecter
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Joined: 8/6/2006
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Location: Connecticut, USA
What version of the ROM are you using? I'm uh... pretty sure it went out of sync fairly quickly. Unless you die three times on purpose?
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Posted: 10/2/2007 12:39 AM
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Neophos
Joined: 9/30/2007
Posts: 103
Says in the link. (J) (32469) is the specific one used, although it works on every japanese version I have. Due an an extra screen in the start, it doesn't work with Firepower 2000 (the american version) (although that could be fixed with some simple hex editing, I think) and due to framerate, it doesn't work in the european version.
Posted: 10/2/2007 2:44 AM
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Dromiceius
Joined: 10/3/2005
Posts: 1332
The video worked for me using the specified version. It doesn't look half bad, but I think there are better autoscrollers that could be TASed. Also, what's the deal with player 2? Can he join in, ever?
Posted: 10/2/2007 3:14 AM
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Neophos
Joined: 9/30/2007
Posts: 103
The system to play as two players is pretty damn stupid. You gotta press select during the title screen to bring up the controller config, then A or B to make it two player. You can also choose who gets to be the helicopter that way.
Posted: 10/2/2007 3:27 AM
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Dromiceius
Joined: 10/3/2005
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Wow, that is pretty damn stupid. I suggest using both players. It takes some practice and your brain may, in fact, catch on fire. But it's usually worth doing for entertainment value, which is particularly important in an autoscroller, where you'll be spending a fair bit of time with nothing to do but wait for the next wave. You have to look at it as an opportunity to be creative, IMO.
Posted: 10/2/2007 4:12 AM
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Neophos
Joined: 9/30/2007
Posts: 103
True, there's some perks to doing it with two players instead of one. I'm not a big fan of the helicopter when it comes to the TAS though (contrary to regular playing, where getting the helicopter is a blessing). It can only fire upwards, it never shapeshifts (the car turns into both a boat and a jet at later levels) and it's generally more.. boring, so to say. The helicopter acts like any standard shoot-'em-up unit. The car is more unique in that aspect. Also, the second perk is that as far as I remember from my old days of playing this with my brother, you get more powerups from each box as two players (or perhaps it's just less specials and more weapon powerups, can't remember), so boss battles could perhaps be upwards three times faster.
Posted: 10/2/2007 11:13 AM
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ElectroSpecter
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I say you should do 2 players. I love synchronized playing when there's 2 or more players in a TAS. And yeah, the J version worked.
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Posted: 10/3/2007 4:13 PM
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airen
Joined: 5/22/2007
Posts: 2
Location: Sweden
hello there. I like this game a lot, despite the balance problems that I think it has (weapons, the game gets easier). While I'd love to see this (the smv was fine so far), expect me to be critical as well :P (the game is no longer on my "hard" list). You do know that(?), on the selection screen, if you first press A to get both vehicles, and then press start while the other vehicle is "coming up", you get to control both of them with just one controller. I personally find it very amusing to play this way :).
Posted: 10/3/2007 6:09 PM
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Neophos
Joined: 9/30/2007
Posts: 103
Yeah, I knew about that trick. Not planning on using it, however. I tried remaking the same segment I just did with jeep-only with both jeep and heli. Perhaps it's just my rookie-ness with TAS'ing, but it seems very hard to control both at them and make it entertaining at the same time. An interesting challenge. I can hopefully put up a WIP of it soon.