I decided to give this a try. As crazy as it sounds, there actually is something to it.
The biggest time waster is waiting after inputting your answer for the suspenseful "yes" or "no", so it's important that each round has the smallest number of answers. So far, I've experimented and managed to luck manipulate so the first round uses five answers (which is the minimum). I also luck manipulated the computer to pick the family name which is the smallest because the time it takes the computer to pick out their name is a time-waster too.
And finally, the program that recognizes words is pretty crazy so it's possible to punch in misspellings and completely wrong words to still get the right answer.
I've seen videos where it interprets "cup of urine" as coffee, "pornography" as soda, and "the hairs from my crack" as "tears".
Just studying these, I worked out how the system works.
It looks for correct letters in the correct order and it doesn't matter if there are any letters in between. You can also use single letters in place of double letters.
Cup OF urinE = COFE = COFFEE
POrnograPhy = POP = SODA
It also doesn't pay attention to spaces. So if the answer was, say, "Smelly beef" I could simply type "SMELYBEF" and it would accept it.
So, although this isn't as complicated as Monopoly, there's some glitch/luck manipulation that can go a long way.
Is there any chance something like this could get accepted?
I finished the time attack and submitted it. http://tasvideos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7448
I'm also going to work on a glitchfest type meant to abuse the word recognition as much as possible, since I think that would be much more entertaining.
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Hyena wrote:
I'm also going to work on a glitchfest type meant to abuse the word recognition as much as possible, since I think that would be much more entertaining.
I did like the publication, but one that makes use of the recognition for evil might be way more entertaining.
cup of urine is a good example, but spelling out insults or whatever might be drop dead hilarious if done properly.
Glad you liked my answers on the Family Feud video, guys!
Yeah, that was my video with the "cup of urine" and "pornography" responses. Funny enough, I came up with those completely by accident one day in a rampage where I'd just give completely illogical answers that didn't fit. I tell you, I right about laughed my ass off when I found that one come up. XD
I stopped working on the glitchfest version a while ago, but I did come up with a lot of good stuff.
My objective besides absolutely ruining the word detection was to get the most number of answers per round so there's more opportunity with tampering. Sort of the opposite of my other run.
I'll post back in a bit when I have some progress.
Edit: Actually, I'm done.
http://tasvideos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7695
An example of my TAS I'm working on:
Host: Name something used only in winter.
Contestant: Derpy eating her muffins.
Family members: Good answer!
(ding) Answer: Ear muffs.
You certainly understand how the parser works, and your text entry looks good, but I don't get the same sense of comedy or humour from your answers.
On top of that, several of the long-form answers you give are answered in the first two words yet you type four or five, and near the end (the tourist attraction round), you (to my knowledge) enter random words with no theme just to cover the relevant bases. "Stay Tuesday Live Bert Y" comes to mind, where you're going for "Statue of Liberty". Did you attempt "Liberty" as your answer and try to evolve from there, or did you just look for some way to try to encode the full answer in your string?
One thing that I did really like was "So cool I love the" "Power Glove It's So Bad" pair of answers - if you could somehow find a round of answers that works with a known phrase, that would be really awesome.
In that same round, you enter "Eat My Shorts" (I know, Simpsons reference) but the answer is outright wrong. Could you put that somewhere else? Getting an answer wrong in this sort of playaround is really weird.
I also really like the "Call me Mellow Yellow" answer as it translates to "Scream", which is a very nice use of the parser.
In short, I feel that theming your answers more effectively and finding ways to spread the answer across each of the words you enter will lead to a better TAS, and hopefully a submission.
I am still the wizard that did it.
"On my business card, I am a corporate president. In my mind, I am a game developer. But in my heart, I am a gamer." -- Satoru Iwata
<scrimpy> at least I now know where every map, energy and save room in this game is
OK, well here are a few suggestions for the "What a woman does when angry" round, subject to synonym recognition of course. After all, quite often you don't need the entire phrase, but only 1 key word will suffice.
Date seven dwarfs = Gets over it eventually
Scares her Aunt Maude = Why should I tell you = Unleash creation M251A
Mace Sprays the dog = Wedding planning
(No clue, didn't decipher phrase)
Pets her tarantula = Sells her soul to Satan
Gets a hostage n Pistol = Shows him shes pregnant
IMO, more amusing.
That doesn't address any of the other statements made about your video.
I am still the wizard that did it.
"On my business card, I am a corporate president. In my mind, I am a game developer. But in my heart, I am a gamer." -- Satoru Iwata
<scrimpy> at least I now know where every map, energy and save room in this game is
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I just started, so can I match the words from Family Feud like "camp" as camping on the board?
This movie I made does not have language and is faster to reduce words.
Planned runs:
Marble Madness (Arcade, Genesis J, GG/SMS)
Proposed:
Ecco the Dolphin (Genesis, GG/SMS, CD: regular, camera freeze)
Ecco: The Tides of Time (Genesis, GG/SMS, CD; normal mode)
Mario Kart DS (all cups, all missions)
In progress: Grand Poo World 3 (all exits hard mode)
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I am done of the movie.
Planned runs:
Marble Madness (Arcade, Genesis J, GG/SMS)
Proposed:
Ecco the Dolphin (Genesis, GG/SMS, CD: regular, camera freeze)
Ecco: The Tides of Time (Genesis, GG/SMS, CD; normal mode)
Mario Kart DS (all cups, all missions)
In progress: Grand Poo World 3 (all exits hard mode)
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Evan0512 wrote:
This movie I made does not have language and is faster to reduce words.
I am done of the movie.
So gracious of him not to link the movie.
Here's the link to the userfile Evan made: User movie #45033223707187924
To quote what I wrote on that userfile.
Spikestuff wrote:
* Mashing (talking about non-important, not going through the letters.)
* Password
* Normal Boring Answers
* Normal Boring Answers that are inputted with interruptions/poor mashing.
* Normal Boring Answers that aren't fast. Similar to this submission.
Just another normal Evan TAS.
I'm so glad you didn't submit this.
Long gif is long (1 minute, 21 seconds. 639kb).
However the point should become apparent very quickly.
This is just the first board being completed.
Left is me modifying your input to hell. Right is the input you provided.
My side is synced to yours.
Your "reduced words" wasn't reduced enough.
(Mine probably wasn't either. But this is just to prove a point)
Take to heart what the judges have written on your previous twosubmissions.
Don't submit this else you will become limited.
WebNations/Sabih wrote:
+fsvgm777 never censoring anything.
Disables Comments and Ratings for the YouTube account.Something better for yourself and also others.
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I edited the movie. Here is what happened:
Does not use returning champion code
CPU name Humble
Does not have Bullseye round
1 player game
As soon as I finished the movie, I will submit this movie.
As of the last movie Heisanevilgenius's movie, the code HFHKSP was used as a returning champion for 10 years, I know why. If you win Family Feud and go to the Fast Money round, a returning champion code appears.
Planned runs:
Marble Madness (Arcade, Genesis J, GG/SMS)
Proposed:
Ecco the Dolphin (Genesis, GG/SMS, CD: regular, camera freeze)
Ecco: The Tides of Time (Genesis, GG/SMS, CD; normal mode)
Mario Kart DS (all cups, all missions)
In progress: Grand Poo World 3 (all exits hard mode)
You know, I did submit a pure speed TAS before my playaround version. http://tasvideos.org/2131S.html
My time was 3:44.22. Your "better" one is 5:22.29
Some finer points:
You didn't luck manipulate to get less answers on the board or to get shorter ones.
Letter input is nowhere near optimized.
You don't remove unnecessary letters to save speed.
What was the point of this?
Left is me modifying your input to hell. Right is the input you provided.
My side is synced to yours.
Your "reduced words" wasn't reduced enough.
(Mine probably wasn't either. But this is just to prove a point)
Take to heart what the judges have written on your previous two submissions.
Don't submit this else you will become limited.
