wait, so am I going to ST? If I can get into the bottom of the well for bombs, then there is no point in the ST, right? I am confused..........sadly.
That was a theory that was being thrown around a while ago, the idea was that you would play the lullaby in the well and make the water sink, then you'd stun the green skull and use the vine glitch on him and get into the bombchu area just before the water properly drains, its hard to say whether this is possible or becuase one way or another its TAS exclusive, if you want to test it out for yourself then you could use a snapshot savestate in the well.
Me and fluffy kitten both were teaming up and looking for ways to get FW early and while in the process, after realizing we couldn't get high enough to get to that skulltula there w/ swordglitch, we both went into the well and started testing. If AKA is reffering to using that green bubble... that is impossible and very slow... it takes eons for that bubble to come around in a full circle, and you need quite a few to get all the way up top... then again, it takes quite a few minutes in order to go all the way to spirit early, so who knows. I don't think it is possible, and if it is I am fairly unsure as to how quickly it can be done... ALSO, most of my attempts ended up killing the green bubble, beware of that too. If you could potentially get that likelike to spit us into the wall, then that would do nicely. Then you can swim in the water over to the bombchus. Unfortunately after lots of testing I could not do it, though I welcome you to try.
AKA, you should join me in levitation to see if it is possible nut I tried for quite some time yesterday and didn't find anything really... The big possibility I was thinking of is if we can get into the main room w/out the door. Or somehow skipping the cutscene where that thing lowers into the ground.
Guano, there is a way to skip the Minuet although it probally takes too long for it to be worth it.
Acryte wrote:
I have found a way to skip the Minuet of Forest. once you get to the flat part behind the pounding dude, use staircase bombhover and backflip over the edge into the void but aimed so you pass the load point for the cutscene. The cutscene will activate, then you will die and respawn and when you make your way back, it won't play. if you use groundjump to top of maze + hover superslide, then you will cover that ground again very quickly and you'll save time, no doubt. Oh, and hoversuperslide can go all the way across, and PAST the moblin and all the way up into that other area. After you drop off the maze, you get back to the ground before the boots wear off, so you can continue the superslide. So, you can get across the whole of the meadow in very very little time.
Also, it is hard but staircase bombhover can be done w/ 1 bomb and 1 bombchu and hoverboots. But not bombchu only I don't think.
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found somthing interesting. When supersliding off a peahat, I found out that if you let go of Z & R after the superslide has been complete, link will either
a) if too close, go back to the plant he was trying to grab... (no video, sorry)
b) if far enough, Link will go through the ground..
http://download.yousendit.com/007185533D4E01EA
c) if too far, nothing will happen
What needs to be tested right now is:
1) Bottom of the Well: Can you do this to get the bombs you need?
2) Dodongos Cavern: Go through the ground and fight the boss?
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1) Bottom of the Well: Can you do this to get the bombs you need?
Yes, but you would need to activate a superslide while on the mound of dirt. Unless there's another spot you can do it at that will put you in the invisible water below the ground.
Could the superslide be used to quickly skip the Minuet if you fall into the ground as you approach the cutscene boundary.
Hmm, bound to be useful but what could the downslope superslide be used for I wonder if it could get you to the bombs in DC much quicker since I know there is a slop at the start.
EDIT: I'll try it out in DC
EDIT_2: I've tried it and I can't get it to work in DC.
EDIT_3: I've just discovered when supersliding that you can let go of Z and just hold R and therefore remove the black borders.
so, I was wondering if crouching superslide has any effect. Maybe it will work when you aren't on slopes? I don't know, I don't know the timing of this worth crap so I still haven't done it successfully yet. Also what is the position of your joystick when you let go? No doubt it has an effect on this.
I think my issue is that im doing it off bombs. It seems that the ability to warp to grass is dependant on what you are grabbing still being there. This is not the case for bombs so I don't think it can be done w/ them. I'll try something else instead. Also, the reason it works for down slopes is because when it warps you, when passing in a line, you go under the ground. Notice you do not do this when going uphill, but instead are high up when you warp. It all makes perfect sense.
Okay, I'm not quite sure how this works, but I did a superslide off the grass using a stallchild. Then I let go of R and warped. started pulling it up and SUPERSLIDED AGAIN... WHILE PULLING IT UP. but he didn't pull anything because it got chopped I think. And, link stopped supersliding when he was done pulling it up.
2 words... Forest temple. Lets get to work.
that is what I have ben trying the last hour... you have to use spells and then superslide but hover is required, and also if the bomb blows up DURING the cutscene then you are just running in place. It is so lame, so currently Im trying to find a combination of spells that I can use to change the timer on the bomb so it blows early. heh, the thing is you have very little time to set up a superslide... much less than the time it takes to set off a bomb... also my plan is to use a superslide into the cutscene where the elevator lowers, and get on it during the cutscene and then ride it down below.... it is easier said than done. I have been trying for hours.
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As of right now, I am 7370 frames faster. My pinpoint is the sidehop after crossing the quicksand in Haunted Wasteland.
to set as a marker. My other time when I die at Spirit Temple is 34:10 or frame ~122760 I believe. I could be wrong
I am doing really well on angles now. I am barely clipping corners and that maybe loses a frame at the most.
WIP from Deku Tree --> Spirit Temple
http://download.yousendit.com/E67505EF6C9CF418
~2 min. 5 seconds ahead.
Should be ~4 1/2 - 5 minutes ahead after spirit temple is complete.
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G'Bowl, I think you uploaded the wrong file. I viewed your file from start 3 times to be sure. In this version, you did not use Acrytes new Deku Tree trick. When I try to use your savestate file, you just keep slashing Mido without progressing.
Nitrogenesis wrote:
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Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
natt wrote:
I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
Cooljay wrote:
Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P
When I ran the file from the start it desynced after the owl, you're continually covering every frame with B, <c and then is desyncs like it did before with the wrong angled sidesteps.
You need some kind of explosives to reach the chest containing the bombchus.
No, not really. Use the lizalfos. Too bad its REALLY HARD. and they don't attack fast enough, but who knows, it is a TAS.
@comicalflop - if you backflip... the cutscene will start before you even hit the ground. I am talking about supersliding to the elevator before it goes down in the ground in the forest temple. It is insanely hard and now that the bomb has to go off before the cutscene I think it is impossible...
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Well, dealing with this piece of desynch. I dont know what to do anymore. I have literally got past the owl 5 times and everytime I play back the movie, the god damn son of a bitch flies a different direction. I have jumped over the gate 3 times to come to realize that I have to go back and see if that owl wants to fly the right way.
I might be throwing this away because of desynch issues.
If this game doesnt get thrown out, to answer the time question. I am saying that this game will be done in sub 1 hour 55 minutes :)
That means, skipping at least 6-8 cutscenes that last 30 seconds to a couple of minutes. skipping the 2 temples I went to last time. Its all science.
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