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Posted: 8/13/2008 5:14 AM
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Rick
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I've seen the submission queue this empty once. I was talking to Cardboard one day and then I found like, only four submissions in the queue. I nearly had a heartattack.
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Posted: 8/13/2008 12:26 PM
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Rick wrote:
I've seen the submission queue this empty once. I was talking to Cardboard one day and then I found like, only four submissions in the queue. I nearly had a heartattack.
Actually it was 6. Making the 4 you saw last night a new record.
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Posted: 8/13/2008 3:31 PM
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Rick
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You sure? I really could've sworn there was four briefly somewhere around the time that the Metroid II runs by Cardboard were either submitted or made, I can't remember which. ...You know what? This is funny too, I just realized something. Whenever Metroid II runs have been submitted or published, somehow, the queue seems to end up at its lowest point in a long time.
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Posted: 8/13/2008 6:34 PM
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alden
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Down to 4 again... quick someone publish KQ for a new new record! Y'all rock...
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Posted: 8/13/2008 6:36 PM
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Raiscan
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That would require someone using Linux to capture it. If someone is willing to capture it according to site rules and sent it to either adelikat or I, we would be happy to process the run.
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Posted: 8/13/2008 6:58 PM
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alden
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It's not really urgent :) EDIT: 3!
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Posted: 8/14/2008 9:59 PM
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Healblade
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Wow, that's a lot of published runs in the past few days. Thanks and cheers to the encoders and others who worked to publish those good runs in the queue!
Posted: 8/15/2008 1:16 AM
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Tub
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back to four unjudged submissions, nothing left to encode. Your CPUs may take a break now :) Good job, thank you.
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Posted: 8/15/2008 1:17 AM
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Raiscan
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Who says I'm not encoding every run, regardless of whether they're being accepted or rejected? ;)
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Posted: 8/15/2008 2:37 AM
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Derakon
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How hard would it be to automatically encode runs, anyway? Obviously this depends on the console in question; as I understand it FCEU has built-in AVI recording facilities, for example. It seems like the biggest problem is CPU time, followed by hosting space, but if someone was to doonate both, would there be many technical hurdles involved in automatically encoding submissions?
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Posted: 8/15/2008 2:38 AM
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Raiscan
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yes
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Posted: 8/15/2008 2:49 AM
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While I have no reason to doubt your word, I'm curious - what kinds of hurdles are we talking about?
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Posted: 8/15/2008 2:52 AM
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NESVideoAgent's screenshots and rather frequent desynchs point to yes.
Posted: 8/15/2008 3:00 AM
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Raiscan
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I suppose I should be nice and give you a better answer than "yes": Encoding requires 3 things a machine doesn't have: Visual recognition of quality, Aural recognition of quality and prior knowledge of game graphics/audio complexity. While these could likely be implemented with specialist AI, it would take an extremely large amount of time and resources to make, which I find it doubtful that anyone here has. Even then, I doubt it would make up for a human encoder. To some extent, x264 has some visual recognition of quality, but even this requires human input to set its strength. That said, a large amount of the process can be automated with batch files. The encoding process is no secret but it should be noted that there are many challenges with getting a good size:quality ratio. The biggest challenges are solved with time and patience (something I recently have an abundance in).
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Posted: 2/3/2009 9:21 PM
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FractalFusion
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Bump. Now 2 submissions in the queue. Maybe I should cancel my submission just to see how empty the queue becomes.
Posted: 2/3/2009 10:36 PM
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mmbossman
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I'm getting around to it, just slowly. It's a particularly hard submission because the reception has been lukewarm, for the most part. And decisions on those types always lead to drama.
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Posted: 2/3/2009 11:32 PM
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FractalFusion
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I meant that as a joke, not an act of passive aggression. I wouldn't really cancel it; even if I did, I would just uncancel it later. As for the run itself, it has its flaws, and I did it for fun anyway, so I'm not really waiting on it. P.S. Besides, is anyone serious about an infamous "pirate" game? P.P.S. It's not a Mega Man game.
Posted: 2/4/2009 12:18 AM
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Derakon
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I'm more interested in Sky Blazer, personally. Thunder Blast Man was an okay watch (and clearly well-run despite the game's massive flaws), but Sky Blazer's actually fun.
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Posted: 2/5/2009 1:06 AM
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FractalFusion
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Checking the edit logs, it appears that there was a timespan of almost 50 minutes where there was only one submission in the queue. Was it ever this empty since the first time there were two submissions in the queue?
Posted: 2/5/2009 2:15 AM
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mmbossman
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FractalFusion wrote:
Checking the edit logs, it appears that there was a timespan of almost 50 minutes where there was only one submission in the queue. Was it ever this empty since the first time there were two submissions in the queue?
Yeah, this morning was special:) We were rushing to get it to 0, but then a few surprise submissions popped up. Oh well. AFAIK, 1 is almost certainly the least amount ever in the queue, because I'm sure that it started out with a few in it when the queue was initiated.
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Posted: 2/5/2009 2:45 AM
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You're doing a great job. Thanks!
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Posted: 11/7/2009 6:28 AM
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FractalFusion
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The judges and encoders have been going at super speed lately. We'll soon see if the number of submissions in workbench reaches 0.
Posted: 11/7/2009 7:09 AM
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*Sigh* I should not have submitted my "-3 stage ending" SMB movie until now. *regreting* So you see how unfair inconstant judging progress is!
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Posted: 11/7/2009 4:18 PM
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Warp
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FractalFusion wrote:
We'll soon see if the number of submissions in workbench reaches 0.
Is that really something to aim for? Movies are submitted on a more or less steady pace (which is a great thing), and optimally they would stay on the submission queue long enough for people to have time to vote and comment on them with enough detail. Rushing movies to publication or rejection for the sole reason of keeping the queue at 0 would only mean that people don't have that much time to comment and vote on them, which I don't see as such a good thing.
Posted: 11/7/2009 4:24 PM
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mmbossman
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Warp wrote:
FractalFusion wrote:
We'll soon see if the number of submissions in workbench reaches 0.
Is that really something to aim for? Movies are submitted on a more or less steady pace (which is a great thing), and optimally they would stay on the submission queue long enough for people to have time to vote and comment on them with enough detail. Rushing movies to publication or rejection for the sole reason of keeping the queue at 0 would only mean that people don't have that much time to comment and vote on them, which I don't see as such a good thing.
Warp, do you also tell little children that Santa Claus doesn't exist? All of the runs that have been on the workbench recently have had at least a moderate amount of votes, without any "problem" submissions. Eggerland was published slightly quickly, but it was an obsoletion attempt and a well made movie. I see no problem trying to rid the queue of submissions every once in a while as long as it is appropriate timing.
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