• Aims for fastest time
  • Takes damage to save time
  • Uses death as a shortcut
  • Manipulates luck
  • Abuses programming errors
Played on Mupen64 ReRecording v8
  • Video Plugin: Jabo's Direct3D8 1.6 (dont forget to check "Copy framebuffer to RDRAM"
  • Sound Plugin: Azimer's HLE Audio v0.56 WIP 1
  • Input Plugin: N-Rage`s Direct-Input8 V2 1.80a
  • RSP Plugin: Hacktarux/Azimer hle rsp plugin
The playback of this run comes to a speedy end by means of many glitches and using JPN rom. This rom can show the message quickly than others. They'll allow to complete this game within an hour. All of the glitches and some techniques I used are only existing one. I deeply appreciated people's great discoveries and researches.
Incidentally, this run was made as just amusing movie for Japanese video site. After the putting on view in the site, I was proposed trying to submit to TASVideos. So this run contains some joking factors, slow parts and going through old route. That's why It'll able to be clipped several minutes off the records in the run.
However, as a result of thinking, I decided to submit because I won't try again in the near future. Although opinions may vary on using JPN rom, I hope you like it.

The following glitches and techniques are mainly used:
  • Escape forest with water jumpslash ESS
  • Skip the owl with Deku Stick
  • Get Gold scale in childhood
  • Skip Door of Time
  • Steal Rod
  • Bottle Adventure
  • Skip Gerudo Bridge with Hookshot
  • Skip Ganon's Castle Trials with Bomb Hovering
  • SS to Ganon to keep Master Sword

adelikat: The ending input was way longer than necessary. I chopped it and replaced the movie file. This movie is sub 1 hour!

mmbossman: The two main goals of this site are to provide entertaining movies which are typically as fast as possible. However, sometimes one facet takes more precedence than the other. We have several well optimized movies which are less than entertaining to watch, and we have some that have known improvements but have been published because they are very entertaining. Usually these known improvements are small, however the improvements they provide to the previously published movie are usually small as well. Here, the improvement is clearly much more substantial.
So that leads us to two possible solutions: 1) accept this run for what it is, an entertaining run with some flaws that obsoletes one of the two runs we currently have which can be beat in real time, or 2) reject it due to known improvements and mildly suboptimal level of play. After reading through all the responses in the discussion thread, I feel it better benefits the site and our viewers to accept and publish this run. Do I wish this run integrated some more of the known tricks which have been pointed out? Sure I do. However I don't believe that it is a wise decision to await a "perfect" run which may never come, while in the mean time continuing to have a run published which is worse than a real time run. So I am accepting this submission.
This acceptance will not result in a change of policy regarding (U) ROMs being preferable to (J) ROMs. Any future improvements should use the (U) ROM, and any resulting time lost due to slower text screens will not be used to penalize that submission, just as any time gained from faster text screens was not factored into the judging decision for this run.

Aktan: Processing... (taking forever to audio sync it)

EZGames69: For anyone planning on encoding this in the future. Make sure you use the same plugins that are listed, especially the input plugin as using the wrong one can cause a desync. And also make sure "Raw Data" is checked in the plugin settings for the input plugin. and finally for the RSP plugin, make sure you select "set to process alists inside the rsp". That should be all.

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Swordless Link wrote:
<i>Says who?</i> Me, one of the people who'll be doing the run.
Yeah right. In case you missed it, part of the reason this got published is that no one believed your movie would ever come out. If you hadn't noticed, adelikat and others had been desperately trying to get the other movie off the site. There was the attempted 'grue obsoletion' which was rejected by a majority of the site. Then, they farmed THIS movie from a completely different site. Perhaps if there was any believe your mystical, wonderful perfect movie was going to happen before the year 2020, this movie would have been rejected. Really, if there is anyone you should 'blame' for this movie being on the site, its you. But, you are Mr. Perfect. I'm sure you'll continue your passive-aggressive 'protest' against this site, because YOU didn't get to obsolete a 2.5 hour movie. Boo-friggin-hoo.
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andrewg wrote:
i mean tasvideos shouldnt have accepted this run because it breaks site rules anyhow. it has set a standard meaning future runs shohld have the same exceptions...
You really don't seem to understand what the term "exception" means. If someone really wants to tempt fate and deliberately make a run using the Japanese ROM and try to appeal to the unique exception made with this publication, then by all means go right ahead. I just don't understand why. If you use the English ROM, and the run improves this publication significantly, it will have approximately 100% chance of getting published. Using the J ROM much less. So why take the chance? It's not like a TAS of this game can be done in a few days. You risk doing potentially months of hard work which may go to waste simply because you wanted to play with the rules. Maybe it will get accepted, but why take the risk? It makes no sense.
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DarkKobold wrote:
Swordless Link wrote:
Says who? Me, one of the people who'll be doing the run.
Yeah right. In case you missed it, part of the reason this got published is that no one believed your movie would ever come out. If you hadn't noticed, adelikat and others had been desperately trying to get the other movie off the site. There was the attempted 'grue obsoletion' which was rejected by a majority of the site. Then, they farmed THIS movie from a completely different site. Perhaps if there was any believe your mystical, wonderful perfect movie was going to happen before the year 2020, this movie would have been rejected. Really, if there is anyone you should 'blame' for this movie being on the site, its you. But, you are Mr. Perfect. I'm sure you'll continue your passive-aggressive 'protest' against this site, because YOU didn't get to obsolete a 2.5 hour movie. Boo-friggin-hoo.
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DarkKobold wrote:
Perhaps if there was any believe your mystical, wonderful perfect movie was going to happen before the year 2020, this movie would have been rejected. Really, if there is anyone you should 'blame' for this movie being on the site, its you. Boo-friggin-hoo.
I really don't want to take part at this ultra pointless discussion, but I have to say something about this. "mystical wonderful perfect movie" there was already a WIP, that showed, how optimized an OoT run can get, so it's not mystical. the thing is, that this old WIP was made under the condition, that mupen plus would come out soon, which was supposed to allow save warps. because of that, they didn't take any damage before getting adult, so there was no way to get out of the Temple of Time again without jumping into the void 6 times. because of this they had to re-do completely. As Swordless major project was always Majora's Mask he waited for Slowking and me to stop discovering new tricks and strategies and planning the new route until july and started that TAS again. sadly he gave up in august and told me to go on with it. now the major project was OoT again, but as no one of bloobiebla, Mitjitsu and Swordless had enough free time to work on it together until this year's May, they decided to finally do this project then. Mitjitsu actually already started to discuss routes and stuff like this with the zelda irc before this run was submitted, which proves that they'll start working on it soon. They are planning to finish the TAS until the end of this summer
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You are making it sound like you wanted to do the J ROM this whole time but didn't because TASVideos would reject it. Is this true? The majority of the OoT 'fans' would prefer a U ROM even if slower than a J ROM regardless. I'd recommend basing your ROM choice off them not what this website will or won't accept. In the long run, it will make you and the audience most happy. Or perhaps you are using the J ROM for a second reason. But I would hope you wouldn't do a monumental amount of work on a ROM you don't think should be used and would disappoint your audience just as a protest against a decision made by our website.
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MrGrunz wrote:
DarkKobold wrote:
Perhaps if there was any believe your mystical, wonderful perfect movie was going to happen before the year 2020, this movie would have been rejected. Really, if there is anyone you should 'blame' for this movie being on the site, its you. Boo-friggin-hoo.
I really don't want to take part at this ultra pointless discussion, but I have to say something about this. "mystical wonderful perfect movie" there was already a WIP, that showed, how optimized an OoT run can get, so it's not mystical. the thing is, that this old WIP was made under the condition, that mupen plus would come out soon, which was supposed to allow save warps. because of that, they didn't take any damage before getting adult, so there was no way to get out of the Temple of Time again without jumping into the void 6 times. because of this they had to re-do completely. As Swordless major project was always Majora's Mask he waited for Slowking and me to stop discovering new tricks and strategies and planning the new route until july and started that TAS again. sadly he gave up in august and told me to go on with it. now the major project was OoT again, but as no one of bloobiebla, Mitjitsu and Swordless had enough free time to work on it together until this year's May, they decided to finally do this project then. Mitjitsu actually already started to discuss routes and stuff like this with the zelda irc before this run was submitted, which proves that they'll start working on it soon. They are planning to finish the TAS until the end of this summer
There are also trailers and videos of Duke Nukem Forever.
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Joined: 2/19/2006
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Warp wrote:
andrewg wrote:
i mean tasvideos shouldnt have accepted this run because it breaks site rules anyhow. it has set a standard meaning future runs shohld have the same exceptions...
You really don't seem to understand what the term "exception" means. If someone really wants to tempt fate and deliberately make a run using the Japanese ROM and try to appeal to the unique exception made with this publication, then by all means go right ahead. I just don't understand why. If you use the English ROM, and the run improves this publication significantly, it will have approximately 100% chance of getting published. Using the J ROM much less. So why take the chance? It's not like a TAS of this game can be done in a few days. You risk doing potentially months of hard work which may go to waste simply because you wanted to play with the rules. Maybe it will get accepted, but why take the risk? It makes no sense.
All I'm saying is that the site should be consistent. If it allows this J rom for this run, it should allow the next one if need be. Of course I would prefer the U version, but if it comes to someone doing the J version there is no real reason it should be rejected...solely based on the fact that this run was accepted. Also, I was wondering the same as Adelikat, does the J rom have something the U does not offer? Do people really even know the main differences between the two (besides text)?
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andrewg wrote:
All I'm saying is that the site should be consistent. If it allows this J rom for this run, it should allow the next one if need be.
That's not being consistent. That's changing the rules on a whim. The rules allow exceptions on special cases. That doesn't mean that one exception changes existing rules. Being consistent means sticking to the rules as they are, not changing them every time a special exception is granted for a single submission. That's what "exception" means. "Exception" does not mean "let's change the rules if we break them once because of special circumstances".
Post subject: fishing rod steal
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Hi I was just wondering exactly how does the fishing rod steal method that is used in this movie works. I've been trying to replicate it and I can't get it to work. I can make link kinda jump up a little bit like in the movie but every time I use the fishing rod, it still won't let me move. I'm using (U) 1.0, so it should work, right? And also, will this method work on 1.2 (since it works on 1.1)? EDIT: Never mind, I YouTube'd it (don't know why I didn't do that first).
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The only reason the (J) movie got accepted was because it was a) Done by someone not familiar with our rules and not even for this site originally, just submitted here afterwards when someone suggested it b) the prior movie had been obsoleted by many many new discoveries and really needed to be put out of its misery Deciding you're going to use the (J) because you have a stick up your ass against tasvideos is stupid, and this is coming from me. I havetons of problems with this site and I still recommend against it. But eh, whatever. Your run, feel free to alienate the people who will be watching your movie in your crusade against the people publishing it.
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Xkeeper wrote:
The only reason the (J) movie got accepted was because it was a) Done by someone not familiar with our rules and not even for this site originally, just submitted here afterwards when someone suggested it b) the prior movie had been obsoleted by many many new discoveries and really needed to be put out of its misery Deciding you're going to use the (J) because you have a stick up your ass against tasvideos is stupid, and this is coming from me. I havetons of problems with this site and I still recommend against it. But eh, whatever. Your run, feel free to alienate the people who will be watching your movie in your crusade against the people publishing it.
The argument you're contributing to is a little less than two months old now, you know. Not that I don't agree with you or anything, but they do say something about what to do with sleeping dogs...
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I've replaced the encode with a new version using a new method of N64 capture that fixes the following: - Fixes messed up audio - Fixes a/v desyncs completely - Fixes missing video frames All this and it's easy than before to capture (though still computer time consuming ~_~).
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Nice TAS. I wish I spoke Japanese. (My stupid high school only offers español, français, and deutsche :( ). ¡Yo se un poco español, pero no se japonés!
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