Ranma 1/2 - Chougi Ranbu Hen. Ryouga run through Story Mode.
Run stats:
  • 11 minutes, 10 seconds.
  • 40218 frames, 1051 re-records.
Special Note: MAKE SURE you let the ROM run for 10 seconds or so first, or through to the opening demo. This vid has a tendency to de-sync if you don't. Fair warning, but it does run. I have checked this.
Required description:
  • Uses Snes9x v1.43 WIP 1
  • Uses all/default settings (WIP 1 Timing, Allow L+R, Volume Envelope, Fake Mute, Sync Samples)
  • Passwords/Warps do not exist in this game. None were used.
  • No programming errors abused, though LUCK MANIPULATION was abused to the best of my abilities.
  • TAKES NO DAMAGE with a flawless run by Ryouga.
  • Plays on HARDEST LEVEL, or level 3.
  • Aims for fastest time while being as creative with the fights as possible.
Further indepth description of the game:
Hey there! This is Hiryuu from ACMLM's board. Long time viewer, first time submitter. Since the introductions of myself are out of the way, let's get to the game at hand.
The following can be used in the description when and if this gets published:
Ranma 1/2 - Chougi Ranbu Hen was the third and last fighter that came out for the Super Famicom in 1994. The series had three fighters, one RPG and one puzzle game based on Jaanken (or Paper, Rock, Scissors). For those of you who don't know, Ranma 1/2 is an animé series created by one Takahashi Rumiko, who is better known for her work nowadays, Inuyasha.
This fighter is probably the better of the three in that it has the most features out of all three of the games and, overall, flows a lot better and most people that I know who have played this generally have a lot more fun. This game flows more or less like the Street Fighter games that so many have played.
What I aim for in this vid is, like most vids here, to beat Story Mode in as fast a time as I can. I also add in creativity so that the vid, although fast, has some fun playing around while I'm at it. If I was going for an all-out speed fest, this would likely be a stale vid, so I compromised some time for the good of the show. Regardless, Story Mode was completed without damage and as fast as I could on the hardest level. Each round has 100 seconds, though shown as 99 at the beginning, and took 5-8 seconds while trying to strive for creativity each time.
End description.
Okay, now that the description's done, I'd like to give a brief synopsis of the fights as they went down, but first I'll give you an idea of what I used tactics-wise for the run.
Combo System - Like many fighters, this game has a combo system. However, the system itself is VERY limited and does not even show the amount of hits you accumulate in a straight row. It is there, though, since certain moves can chain into other ones. It's a little lax on the timing, so you do not need to buffer your moves so much in order to create the combos. Just a good sense of timing and practice and you'll be ready to go. For Ryouga's sake, I maxed out doing -7- hits in a single combo. There were two version of that used: A broke 3 hit then 4 hit and a straight 7 hit. The timing that is required to execute this move and the ability to set it up takes a lot of luck in order to pull it off. If you do it correctly, however, you will perform a tremendous and even cruel amount of damage. Your opponent won't know what hit him/her.
Dizzying - This aspect was used a lot in the game. By doing a large amount of damage in a row, usually by combos, you can knock an opponent down and when they get back up, they will be in a dizzied state. You can take this time to unleash more pain or a follow-up combo. A common trick is that if you start early, you'll get a dizzy off a combo that's only about 3 or 4 hits. However, dizzying a second time becomes nearly impossible, mostly because the opponent will be dead before it happens again. So this will happen practically every battle you view once.
Varying combos, specials, and throws against time - As I said, this combo system allows you to vary your moves, but only so much. This run aims to show the extent of you which you can take our lost friend, Ryouga, and put him to your own use and how fast you can do it. Most people who have played this game may be surprised at the comboing that these characters can do. Using Luck Manipulation, I attacked practically every weak spot that was available to me in style. On hardest level without the emulation tool's help of slowing down, hitting the opponent every hit without them defending is practically impossible. They know how to block on hardest level, so you must counterattack while they try attacking you.
Desperation moves - Although sporting a large deal of chance and a large amount of time, these moves can be used after taunting your opponent. Taunting can be done by pressing the L shoulder button. When this is done, your character will taunt or, in Ryouga's case, start an animation that shows he's charging up energy. If you aren't hit during the two or three second charge up, your life bar starts to flash you can initiate a powered up attack, special, or you may use your character's desperation attack which lands an awesome amount of power if it connects. If you're hit while your lifebar is flashing, however, you will lose your powered up status and you will have to successfully taunt the opponent again in order to attack. For this reason, you would only pull these moves off if you can allow the time to do so. Course, having Ryouga pull of a Full Power Shishi Houkou Dan is nice too.
I think I've covered everything, now let's do a brief overview of the battles at hand.
FIGHT OVERVIEWS - Don't read if you hate semi-spoilers or don't want a guide while you watch.
FIGHT 1 - RANMA SAOTOME
Fans of the series should know that this would probably be a better fight last than first. Oh well, random generation of character battles. The two long-time rivals shall square off first.
Round 1: Right of the bat, you can tell where the usage of dizzying comes in. The moment our friend Ranma hits the ground without bouncing he will rise in a dizzied state. In a fast motion, the amount of damage will escalate. Now to have fun with this. 7 seconds.
Round 2: Dizzying can also come from taking too much damage OUT of combo. This is shown by Ranma taking a kick to the face in the air after surviving a combo. The result here is his demise with a high hit combo. 6 seconds.
FIGHT 2 - SHAMPOO
Anyone like the nice scenery of this game? The wooden porch of the famous Kiyomizudera, or "Pure Water Temple", in Kyoto at sunset. Oh you're only here for the fights, right?
Round 1: These two fights may have been better, but considering Shampoo being slippery, as she's quite fast, it became a bit of a difficulty. However, I exercised some hit and trips for the endings to make her demise as flashy as possible. 8 seconds.
Round 2: Same as the last but I exercised more aerial assaults and tossed Ryouga's Tanuki doll that he got for Akane into the mix for effect. Hit and trip ending once again. 7 seconds.
FIGHT 3 - KODACHI KUNOU
Taj Mahal. Kodachi sure can pick them.
Round 1: This shows the non-broken 7 hitter that I spoke of. As far as I know this is the most you can make with this character and perhaps the game. The timing for it and the chance for it to happen is quite rare so I used it when I could. Right around frame 9420 would be a nice shot for this TAS's preview screenshot if it gets published here. Nice ending. 7 seconds.
Round 2: Your basic bowl over. Kodachi didn't stand a chance. 8 seconds.
FIGHT 4 - UKYOU KUONJI
Ah, spatula girl. If anyone wants to know why she's using those to fight, watch the animé.
Round 1: Another bowl over. You can see I like the headbutt chain a lot by now. 6 seconds.
Round 2: Same deal but Ukyou finds the floor at the end, hard. Started to vary up my chains with throws at this point. 7 seconds.
FIGHT 5 - MOUSSE
That coat on him is big for a reason. That said, the Statue of Liberty looks nice.
Round 1: Mousse gets bowled all over New York City. 7 seconds.
Round 2: Same deal, but more cornering. Go Shishi Houkou Dan. 6 seconds.
FIGHT 6 - MARIKO KONJYOU
Some American Football stadium, I think. Yea, we're going against cheerleaders this time.
Round 1: This was one of those rare times where I could time a combo at the start that didn't dizzy the opponent after 3 hits. I succeeded in hitting her in 5 hits and then finished her off with a 6 hit. Though it is preferred for all out speedruns, it wouldn't be too much of a run if I did the same trick over and over again. It would get boring fast. There's another trick that I know of that is used later as I'll point out. 5 seconds.
Round 2: Mariko gets knocked back and forth with a constant barrage of power from Ryouga. Poor thing. 7 seconds.
FIGHT 7 - GENMA-PANDA
Yes, you fight a panda too.
Round 1: Genma-Panda's big size means a big target. I had fun chaining up BAKUSAI TENKETSU on him in both fights. Classic over and under attack for the end. 7 seconds.
Round 2: As I said, Breaking Point owns. 8 seconds.
FIGHT 8 - TATEWAKI KUNOU
Tatewaki Kunou, age 17, about to get beat up at Niagra Falls.
Round 1: This was an interesting setup, since the CPU decide to follow me up instead of trying to anti-air me from the ground. Kicked Kunou in the face, proceeded to drive him into the pavement, dizzied him, and comboed him with a blast at the finish. Truly a decent fight out of all of these. 6 seconds.
Round 2: Barrage assault from air and ground. Not as impressive as last time, but I was going for a change in pace for the moves that were being shown. 7 seconds.
FIGHT 9 - AKANE TENDOU
Show watchers know that this fight wouldn't happen unless it was in a fanfic. Ryouga loves Akane too much for this.
Round 1: Brought her the toy he gave her. This fight shows the Broken 7 combo that I spoke of. It was out of sheer luck and chance that both of them comboed together. A knee to the face for the end. 8 seconds.
Round 2: Used the non-broken 7 this time. Weaved up and down and ended with a blast. 6 seconds.
FIGHT 10 - HINAKO-SENSEI
Someone want to tell me why Hinako would be in the Savannahs of Africa? Please?
Round 1: If this was Super Smash Brothers Melee, I'd have points off for Stale Moves. This is one of those fights that I mentioned earlier that are fast but really aren't that great to watch over and over again. 5 seconds.
Round 2: You should be used to the pummeling by now. Straight uppercut for the win. 6 seconds.
FINAL FIGHT - HERB
What I find bad is that Herb wasn't in the animé, he was in the manga in his own arc, yet he had a voice actor just for this game. Man, the watching possibilites if this would've been in the animé.
Round 1: Pummeling with a double BAKUSAI TENKETSU at the end. 6 seconds.
Round 2: Well, you'll have to watch this last fight. I'm not giving it away. It was a fun setup, though, let me tell you. 8 seconds.
That's all the fights. The final SCORE was 737800.
And that concludes my long and drawn out description of this run. I had a lot of fun making this. I imagine that it's possible to make this faster but this was a first time job and I imagine that the job I did could be improved with practice. I hope those that know and like this game take the chance to play this game and possibly beat even beat this time attack and/or make it look more flashy.
Last minute shoutouts go to:
  • Acmlm, for his board and the wonderful people there.
  • Xkeeper, for last-minute help with how to setup the movie.
  • One Michael Pulliam for being my eternal rival in most any game I've ever played, including this one.
Thanks for the watch and I hope you enjoyed this vid.

adelikat: Rejecting. The game is poorly suited for an interesting TAS. The run is repetitive and fails to demonstrate something noteworthy. In addition, it has received little interest.

adelikat: Xkeeper's plea heard. I'm setting this run to delayed and leave it for a week or so, in hopes that some discussion will result.

adelikat: Over a week has passed and only 1 silent "meh" vote has occured. For lack of any response I am rejecting.

adelikat: Accepting for publication to the Vault

nanogyth: Processing for publication...


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This topic is for the purpose of discussing #964: Hiryuu's SNES Ranma ½: Chougi Ranbu Hen in 11:10.30
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I know "Ryouga loves Akane too much", but I think your movie desyncs in fight 9...
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The movie also desynced for my in the fight with Akane, and while I know that's appropriate and all it seems to be an error :) Still, this was a nice nostalgia trip, I haven't seen Ranma in a long time. Though I always felt the second fighting game on the SNES did a better job of capturing the feel of the series (though, as a fighting game it was inferior to this one). Anyway, withholding vote for now, until we see what's up with the desyncs.
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For me, it desynced 6 times in the first menu screen (player selection), 3 times in fight with Ranma and once in fight against Shampoo. Very unstable. Can't watch it. :-/
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Works fine for me, and I even fast-forwarded through most of it (mostly due to the sheer "kick opponent in face, punch in stomach, rinse, repeat" repitivity). Maybe it's just the ROM used? -- Edit -- I wish I could keep this in the post. People (in IRC) seem to be less interested in edits, even if they happen to double the post content. Bah. Anyway, this movie is touchy. You do have to let the ROM 'warm up' for this; I just hold fast forward until the first demo starts. This also happens to be the first ROM that needed it, too... if you start it right after loading, it appears to do some strange things (mine desynced by going to the 2P game screen) Also: voting yes.
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Yea, I DID forget to mention that. Every time that I would load the movie straight from the ROM load it would try loading it in Tag Team mode. You really have to let it warm up at the start screen for about 10 seconds or so before you run it through. But I did run it through that way several times before I submitted it so, by the computer at least, I know it works.
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Finally got this one, and I didn't have any desynch problems. It was fun to watch, yes.
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I was close to vote no because you battered so many weak girls ;) No no, this looked really good and you also brought some variation in your moves (except the first fight). Edit: Hmm...why can't I vote although I'm not a lurker anymore?
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I watched the whole thing and did not any desync problems... why not, it's not a bad movie, though i've always found that fighting game do not make good TA time attack... Though this one is funny, and it transforms the hard mode into a breeze :D... I voted yes
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I found this run to be rather uninteresting. Fighter games like this usually don't make good TASes. The street fighter series is the only one to get onto this site (mostly due to popularity). This game seems to have a limited amount of moves which made it repetitive. You (obviously) beat each opponent into oblivion which isn't an impressive apsect since it is a TAS (these types of thing are expected). Beyond that it doesn't offer anything particularly interesting. The characters were amusing but that isn't enough to make this game publishable. Voting No.
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Judge Guidelines wrote:
Collect opinions The audience has voice. If they don’t use it, encourage them to use it. Read what other people think of the submission. If nobody says anything, try to ignite discussion.
adelikat wrote:
adelikat: Rejecting. The game is poorly suited for an interesting TAS. The run is repetitive and fails to demonstrate something noteworthy. In addition, it has received little interest.
Despite recieving four yes votes over a long period of time, instead of attempting to ignite discussion of this, you simply vote no and reject it based on your feelings of this movie, which is of extreme interest considering all feedback on this movie so far (minus desync issues, which have already been answered) has been positive. (Please note that while I have had very slightly bitter feelings toward adelikat, this is more of a matter of a mishandled submission instead of a personal attack.)
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Xkeeper wrote:
If nobody says anything, try to ignite discussion.
Fair enough. I will reset it to delayed (assuming I can do this). I'll leave it for 1 week. Perhaps someone can change my mind in that time.
Despite recieving four yes votes over a long period of time, instead of attempting to ignite discussion of this, you simply vote no and reject it based on your feelings of this movie, which is of extreme interest considering all feedback on this movie so far (minus desync issues, which have already been answered) has been positive.
I believe to are misjudging about my reasoning: 1) I am a voter too, in which case it is 4 yes, 1 no. So this is not a unanimous decision. In addition, these are some chilly results being only 4 votes. This is certainly not a major point, but I bring it up because you make it sound like a took a popular, well received movie and rejected it. 2) You make it sound as if I came along and saw a movie that I disagree with and quickly rejected it. I assure you that it was not a hasty decision, but came after watching the run several times and thinking about it for awhile. (I first watched this run sometime after it was submitted but never commented). 3) My feeling had little to do with it. As someone already pointed out, fighter games of this type are poorly suited for TASing and as a result, are it is very difficult to make an impressive TAS. Aside from too SF2 movies they are non-existant on this site. For solid reason. It hard to keep someone entertained by knocking the crap out of a cpu controlled character. The ones that have managed to be published have met high standard in terms of showing off as many combos as possible and having a lot of "style". I think this movie didn't quite match up to this standard. The same combos were used quite frequently and the fights became predictable. I think that this movieRejecting a movie like this is in keeping in within the rules and trends of this site. A few threads that I feel back this opinion up: http://tasvideos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=810&highlight=street+fighter http://tasvideos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1826&highlight=street+fighter http://tasvideos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1833&highlight=street+fighter 3) I weighted the opinions that I read into this decision, but I am allowed to disagree with them. Of the posted opinions I got this: (paraphrased of course) a) xkeeper: "yes vote <- not informative, no reason as to why b) xaphan: "these games don't really make good time-attacks, vote yes anyway." and "hard game made easy". Despite a yes vote, this one isn't a very good review in my opinion. He admits that he didn't particularly find such a genre interesting. Also "hard game made easy" is a common yes vote in submission but a poor argument (sorry Xaphan). These are TASes, it is expected that the game look easy. That is not the point. The point is to take it a step further and show something extraordinary. As a result, I will not weigh a comment like this very heavily when making may descicion. c) Fresh Feeling: "Fun to watch" <- fair enough, but I need more of these for it to change my opinion. These types of comment generally help when deciding "popular demand" which currently this movie fails in. d) spocky: "this looked really good and you also brought some variation in your moves (except the first fight)." <- weighted heavily and a pretty informative post. He feels there was enough variation. OK, that helped the runs case, but it was the really the only one. This just wasn't enough to persuade me. Well, perhaps my opinions will ignite the discussion you are looking for.
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This movie has been published. The posts before this message apply to the submission, and posts after this message apply to the published movie. ---- [2216] SNES Ranma ½: Chougi Ranbu Hen by Hiryuu in 11:10.30