Post by Slowking

Posted: 12/7/2010 11:39 PM

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BackwardLongJump

Joined: 8/30/2008
Posts: 55
Location: Seattle, WA

nice find! too bad you cant skip the others this way too

Posted: 12/8/2010 1:15 AM

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TheFrigz

Joined: 2/9/2006
Posts: 124

nice trick!

Posted: 12/10/2010 12:19 AM

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MrGrunz

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Joined: 2/8/2009
Posts: 656

owning da beavers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NluVKCb87k

Posted: 12/10/2010 1:09 PM

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criticaluser

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Joined: 11/6/2010
Posts: 88
Location: Argentina

that was amazing! It's a shame that the croocked cartdrige trick can't be done on an emulator.

Posted: 12/10/2010 1:50 PM

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Captain_Forehead

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Joined: 7/7/2008
Posts: 872
Location: Utah

Beaver: That was perfect. You bet your beaver skin that was perfect. :P

Posted: 12/10/2010 5:30 PM

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More cutscene skips! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7A5Dd7BOYk Hopefully Grunz will be near a skippable cutscene when dawn of the second day arrives. This would be so much more useful with the Sun's Song.

Posted: 12/10/2010 11:48 PM

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BackwardLongJump

Joined: 8/30/2008
Posts: 55
Location: Seattle, WA

that was amazing especially because i hate that cutscene lol

Posted: 12/11/2010 4:38 PM

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Slowking

Joined: 12/6/2008
Posts: 1193

Hmm it's 4:45am at the entrance of pinnacle rock. I think it looks quite good for skipping the turtle cutscene, doesn't it? At least I hope pinaccle doesn't take too long...

Posted: 12/11/2010 8:46 PM
(Edited: 12/12/2010 3:15 PM)

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petrie911

Joined: 7/16/2006
Posts: 635

Ah...about that. The daybreak cutscene skip only partially works on the turtle cutscene. What happens if you do the skip is that the cutscene doesn't play, but the turtle also doesn't appear. However, if you play the NWBN again, it will use the shortened cutscene that it uses after you've seen the cutscene once. I have no idea whether it would be better to SoDT to daybreak and SoDT to night to skip the cutscene, use the daybreak skip, or possibly just wait it out depending on what time it is. BTW, by my timing, the SoDT takes ~16 seconds, the day change scene takes ~3 seconds, and the "Dawn of the Xth day" title card also takes ~3 seconds. EDIT: OK, the above isn't correct. Dawn of the Xth Day takes 7 seconds, not 3.

Posted: 12/12/2010 12:58 AM

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Slowking

Joined: 12/6/2008
Posts: 1193

So yeah. New method and old method take about the same time and old method isn't as hard to time. Bummer.

Posted: 1/4/2011 4:23 AM

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Almagnus1

Joined: 8/14/2007
Posts: 21

So..... how goes the speed run progress? I'm curious what sort of mind blowing stuff is in there =)

Posted: 1/4/2011 9:05 AM

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petrie911

Joined: 7/16/2006
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GlitchesAndStuff found this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RysbwbT6JAo Unfortunately, uses are not forthcoming.

Posted: 1/6/2011 8:17 AM

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MissileWaster

Joined: 7/9/2006
Posts: 20
Location: Texas

petrie911 wrote:

Unfortunately, uses are not forthcoming.

watch what you say, petrie. i'm sure you remember just as well as i do a time when people thought the infinite sword glitch was useless and had no use in a speed run.

Posted: 1/10/2011 10:36 AM

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Almagnus1

Joined: 8/14/2007
Posts: 21

This has probably been asked in here already, but I'm being lazy and don't feel like searching XD I'm also in the process of watching the 100% speed run (all 29 segments of it). But I don't expect to finish it for several days (it's over 5 hours in total). For the 100% TAS of MM.... would it be possible to complete the game in 3 cycles (9 days total)? I'm trying to figure out how to avoid a fourth cycle.... but can't seem to get around the need for 4 cycles because of the first cycle, and the heart pieces relating to the All Night and Couples Masks. I haven't done thorough planning, but off the top of my head, the route would look something like: Cycle 1: -Magic Bar -Deku Jumping Game, Dude in toilet, & Clock Tower Pieces of heart -Adult's Wallet from Deku Jumping Game winnings and other rupies in town Cycle 2: -Woodfall, Great Bay, and Snowhead Temples, and post completion masks and heart pieces -Sequence Break to get the Giant's Wallet -Gilded Sword -Don Gero Quest -Anju & Kafei Quest, clone letter to complete both forks (doubt this is possible)... maybe with something similar to the bottle dupe technique? -Acquire All Night Mask (after doing some more poking around.... this is not possible, and shoots the route idea...) Cycle 3: -Stone Tower -Cleanup -Majora getting pwned by Fierce Diety mask To quickly gain enough rupees to get the bank heart piece (which might also dictate if this is possible), the Zora pot breaking game should be used to supplement rupies picked up along the way. Edit: After doing some more poking around on this..... I think there's enough holes in the route to make swiss cheese look like cheddar.....

Posted: 1/11/2011 5:35 AM

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Almagnus1

Joined: 8/14/2007
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After dragging the N64 out of the closet (and hooking it up to the computer - hooray for TV in cards).... I was screwing around lower Ikana canyon with Deku Link in the first cycle.... and noticed that I would be thrown if I backflipped and a bombchu detonated near me. Realizing the purely chaotic nature of this.... I'm not sure if something akin to a Goron bomb jump can be achieved with Deku Link and the Bombchus in the area... So, for those that are far more skilled than I am, any chance this could be used to get into Ikana in the first cycle? If so.... anything useful that could possibly come of this?

Posted: 1/12/2011 2:21 AM

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RingRush

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Joined: 4/14/2009
Posts: 116

If you could get past the fences in Ikana, that would be one of the two barriers to getting a bottle in the first cycle (which isn't obviously useful for anything but game time). It would also, without any additional tricks discovered, allow you to get bottle before learning Song of Healing (but not first cycle...pretty useless but an interesting thing nonetheless).

Posted: 1/16/2011 1:34 AM

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Almagnus1

Joined: 8/14/2007
Posts: 21

The only downside to getting anything past Termina Field in the first cycle is the long transit time to and fro.... if it is possible to cross the two fences, it might be possible to get into the graveyard... As far as Ikana proper... I would doubt that it would be doable. Hopefully someone with a TASing set up can look into it...

Posted: 2/3/2011 1:15 AM

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BrainStormer

Joined: 6/12/2008
Posts: 84

Sorry for my post, but Grunz, are you still active with the project and anywhere close to finishing? Just curious if you'd actually finish this tas after what that japanese guy did (to you)...(Haven't watched his tas, that's why I'm asking)

Posted: 2/13/2011 9:56 PM

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exileut

Joined: 2/15/2009
Posts: 329

I just watched the new single segment any% SDA run which is 20 minutes faster than the current published tas run. Anyone still working on this?

Working on: Legend of Legaia, Vagrant Story

Posted: 2/14/2011 4:13 AM

Post subject: We've got work to do...

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GregW17

Joined: 11/15/2009
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Ack, someone beat me to the post.....

Posted: 2/14/2011 8:11 AM

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Patashu

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exileut wrote:

I just watched the new single segment any% SDA run which is 20 minutes faster than the current published tas run. Anyone still working on this?

Keep in mind that TAS timing is from power on, SDA timing is from the first frame you gain control over the character.

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Posted: 2/14/2011 3:04 PM

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Slowking

Joined: 12/6/2008
Posts: 1193

and that Jiano so stole our route. XD And yeah there is still somebody working on it. Just slowly as ever. :D

Posted: 2/14/2011 11:22 PM

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exileut

Joined: 2/15/2009
Posts: 329

I look forward to seeing updates!

Working on: Legend of Legaia, Vagrant Story

Posted: 2/20/2011 10:26 AM

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Slowking

Joined: 12/6/2008
Posts: 1193

I watched abeshis run again and I began to doubt that he could have gotten sub 1:30 with that play quality, even on the japanese version. So I retimed it and it turns out, he timed till the last hit to Majora, not the end of the movie file. His TAS is more like 1:33:12 (maybe even a few seconds longer, there seem to be a few black frames missing in the beginning and where he switches videos). Just fyi.