Posted: 1/17/2012 11:56 AM
Post subject: Ninja Jajamaru - Ginga Daisakusen
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After I finished my latest JALECO run (Rod Land), I found this other "gem". It's about a space ninja who has 1 life and instantly dies if doesn't kills the enemy. Rom name: Ninja Jajamaru - Ginga Daisakusen (J).nes Here's my movie file that completes World 1 and World 2 stage 1. What do you think, what's your opinions? Do you know the game and know more glitches? What I mostly abuse is "infinite" rolling.
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Posted: 1/17/2012 2:06 PM
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Lol, you've seen how a couple days ago this game was mentioned in NES wishlist thread? NitroGenesis said he has tried tasing it.
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Posted: 1/17/2012 4:37 PM
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I seem to recall seeing someone say that you could jump on spikes in this game and be fine so long as you jumped as soon as you landed. I haven't watched your WIP though; maybe you already know this. Anyway I'm pretty sure there's discussion of this game somewhere in the forums already.
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Posted: 1/17/2012 7:14 PM
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There was an American prototype of this game called "Squashed!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFP23er8Zmw I remember a guy named unknownfile did some TASes of this game, but he closed his YT account. I'll look at your WIP later.
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Posted: 1/18/2012 7:25 AM
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I tried to do "infinite running" without success. How did you do that in your american version tas? Also, does it faster than infinite rolling (since I don't need to recharge at the end of stage 1)? edit: I finish the level at 362 while your unoptimized run finishes in 357.
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Posted: 1/18/2012 9:58 AM
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Derakon wrote:
Anyway I'm pretty sure there's discussion of this game somewhere in the forums already.
Yes indeed-- and it looks like my old first wip is in there. Who knows if it's any good though: http://tasvideos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4654
Posted: 1/18/2012 11:05 AM
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Good job! You are much faster than me (because of using infinite running instead of infinite rolling) also the electricity bug is new to me (even that I used the very same at the boss battle)! I should collaborate with someone on this tas since I'm not that good in solo tasing =) edit: at least my boss fight was faster than yours but still you are better than me Inzult =)
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Posted: 1/18/2012 11:25 AM
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I haven't looked at the WIP (yours or mine) but I do recall learning that you could hit the boss while it was still on the wall after I made it, so it's not too surprising you figured a faster way. I got really hung up on trying to force my way into the walls after that and couldn't do it, so made no more progress.
Posted: 1/18/2012 11:37 AM
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There's only two minimal things you didn't used: - hitting the boss earlier on the wall and using "jump on collision detection" to be able to do another hit instead of dragging away as normally should occur - starting the next scenes faster by pressing T on the 1st possible frame window not the second - holding A for faster text speed I think I will try to optimize your run in the near future and implement these tricks (most of them just saves a few frames) edit: here you are, your base file with these improvements: http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/1755960232/MESHUGGAH_Inzult_NJGD.fm2
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Posted: 1/18/2012 2:00 PM
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Well! That looks pretty good with the little improvements. I'd certainly watch a full run, though my desire to make TASes is pretty much gone these days. I'm glad to have helped a little, at least.
Posted: 1/19/2012 3:02 PM
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Well I guess I have to do it solo =) I made a new run from scratch which improves additional frames by getting better positions at level-end warps by watching 0x0026 speed-o-meter (3 is the max). On topic: of course you helped, you show me the glitch and more optimizations that motivated me to do MORE optimizations =) I will upload a movie file when I've done at least more worlds.
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