Post subject: Are Tool-Assisted Runs Conceptual Art?
Editor, Expert player (2478)
Joined: 4/8/2005
Posts: 1573
Location: Gone for a year, just for varietyyyyyyyyy!!
Wikipedia wrote:
Conceptual art, sometimes simply called Conceptualism, is art in which the concept(s) or idea(s) involved in the work take precedence over traditional aesthetic and material concerns.
Sol LeWitt wrote:
In conceptual art the idea or concept is the most important aspect of the work. When an artist uses a conceptual form of art, it means that all of the planning and decisions are made beforehand and the execution is a perfunctory affair. The idea becomes a machine that makes the art.
This is relevant especially when talking about multi-game runs or runs that lack audiovisual entertainment. If you find a TAS unpleasant to watch, try to see beyond the video and appreciate it as conceptual art or Conceptually Re-recorded Art Play (aka. CRAP).
Player (121)
Joined: 2/11/2007
Posts: 1522
Yes.
I make a comic with no image files and you should read it. While there is a lower class, I am in it, and while there is a criminal element I am of it, and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free. -Eugene Debs
AnS
Emulator Coder, Experienced player (728)
Joined: 2/23/2006
Posts: 682
No.
Site Admin, Skilled player (1251)
Joined: 4/17/2010
Posts: 11475
Location: Lake Char­gogg­a­gogg­man­chaugg­a­gogg­chau­bun­a­gung­a­maugg
Maybe.
Warning: When making decisions, I try to collect as much data as possible before actually deciding. I try to abstract away and see the principles behind real world events and people's opinions. I try to generalize them and turn into something clear and reusable. I hate depending on unpredictable and having to make lottery guesses. Any problem can be solved by systems thinking and acting.
Spikestuff
They/Them
Editor, Publisher, Expert player (2633)
Joined: 10/12/2011
Posts: 6437
Location: The land down under.
If we're bringing back what I'm thinking then YES
WebNations/Sabih wrote:
+fsvgm777 never censoring anything.
Disables Comments and Ratings for the YouTube account. Something better for yourself and also others.
Player (66)
Joined: 4/21/2011
Posts: 232
He's bringing crappy back?
Editor, Experienced player (570)
Joined: 11/8/2010
Posts: 4036
I'm going with Yes.
Editor, Skilled player (1439)
Joined: 3/31/2010
Posts: 2108
Meh.
Demon_Lord
He/Him
Joined: 2/20/2011
Posts: 80
Location: Chicoutimi, Qc, Canada
Purple.
Skilled player (1416)
Joined: 10/27/2004
Posts: 1978
Location: Making an escape
Is conceptual art a tool-assisted speedrun?
A hundred years from now, they will gaze upon my work and marvel at my skills but never know my name. And that will be good enough for me.
Player (204)
Joined: 8/18/2013
Posts: 146
Location: location, location!
Consider a tool-assisted speedrun a story. At the beginning, they may not look like much. But when you look deeper into them. And find the real reason within. You have found something that is quite amazing.
Current TAS: [SNES] Jelly Boy [NES] Street Fighter 2010
Skilled player (1738)
Joined: 9/17/2009
Posts: 4980
Location: ̶C̶a̶n̶a̶d̶a̶ "Kanatah"
For some TAS's, it can be described similar to a quote from here:
mklip2001 wrote:
Finally got around to watching this. It's really poetry in motion. I don't know the game horribly well, but some solutions still felt fairly fresh. I especially liked Courses 6 and 8, as well as Extra 8 (I was also fond of the strategies where taking damage actually helped make Kirby faster). It was also cool to see a different strategy for the final fight. Yes vote.
Unless of course, it's Front Line, which in that case, I feel sorry for the poor sucker who saw that as their first exposure to TAS's.
Former player
Joined: 1/17/2006
Posts: 775
Location: Deign
I agree with Fabian. 
Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign aqfaq Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign
Banned User
Joined: 3/10/2004
Posts: 7698
Location: Finland
jimsfriend wrote:
I agree with Fabian. 
Off topic, but where did this "I agree with X" in code tags custom originate from?
BigBoct
He/Him
Editor, Former player
Joined: 8/9/2007
Posts: 1692
Location: Tiffin/Republic, OH
Further off topic, what the hell happened to Deign? On-topic: I agree that TASes are a form of conceptual art insofar as they take something and do unexpected things with it. But your acronym is silly and ineffectual.
Previous Name: boct1584
Former player
Joined: 1/17/2006
Posts: 775
Location: Deign
Warp wrote:
jimsfriend wrote:
I agree with Fabian. 
Off topic, but where did this "I agree with X" in code tags custom originate from?
The argument of Bimmy vs Billy. A great moment in tasvideos history. Bimmy If you can find older references feel free to show me that I'm wrong. (omg there's even a HiddenGamer reference in that topic <3)
Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign aqfaq Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign Deign
Post subject: In which Alden poops on the ground again.
Player (121)
Joined: 2/11/2007
Posts: 1522
1) I find Front Line to be particularly suited to be contextualized as art; you could infer a subtext of futility in life; no matter how well you optimize it, it's a slow yet brief repetitive plod until the end. 2) Can you view forum threads as conceptual art? 3)
I agree with Fabian
as well
I make a comic with no image files and you should read it. While there is a lower class, I am in it, and while there is a criminal element I am of it, and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free. -Eugene Debs