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Posted: 7/10/2015 4:20 AM
(Edited: 7/16/2015 5:50 AM)

Post subject: Another 'Chicken Little' Story? You Decide. (updated 07/16)

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Everyone...regardless of the reactions this thread may get, I feel it is my duty to share this information with you and, at the least, give you the opportunity to view it for yourself and make a decision. The topic of this thread concerns an extra-planetary object that has allegedly entered our solar system and is now in orbit around the sun. I don't present this information lightly as, when informed of this phenomena about a month and a half ago, I was very skeptical upon hearing it. However, upon doing my own research and checking things out for myself, I am convinced that this is not some kind of hoax. This is the evidence that I've compiled up so far that I believe is the most compelling. In the near future, I'll add more to this post as I come across it. You're, indeed, free to have any opinion you wish about all of this. Again, I just feel that it is my obligation to share what I've uncovered. update 07/16: -Added section "SUPPORTING VIDEO" w/ one new video. VIDEO EVIDENCE

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"Two Suns" 2014 compilation. Shown footage taken from Canada, Hungary, and Neumayer Station in Antarctica. Satellite footage from NASA also included.

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"Dual sunrise" caught on film in Nova Scotia.

Part 2 of above video. Camera is left in position for 20 minutes to prove phenomena is not due to window glare.

Additional footage shot 3 weeks later. Object is now on left-hand side ofthe sun, instead of the right.

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Footage pulled from live webcam in Mexico. Sun sets at approximately 18:30. At 18:56, second "sun" momentarily peeks over horizon.

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Recently uploaded on July 1st (footage allegedly shot in California). Record-like object is used to filter sun's glare, revealing additional planet-like object orbiting nearby.

SUPPORTING VIDEO

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Covers intricate crop circle design which appeared on 06/23/15, in Turin, Piedmont, Italy.

The Sumerian Stars Tablet and Mayan Calender artifacts were used to interpret this as a 16-month Lunar calendar, covering the future time period (and corresponding events) of 07/15 to 09/16.

ADDITIONAL PICTORIAL EVIDENCE

Taken in Colorado (I know the photographer, personally). A sheet of welder's glass was used to filter out the sun's glare.

If you look closely at the first photograph, you'll notice a "Saturn" like translucent image which is similar to the object caught on the NASA satellite screen capture, at the top of the page.

"But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him." - 1 Corinthians 2:9

Posted: 7/10/2015 7:51 AM
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Posted: 7/10/2015 7:53 AM

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"Chicken Little story"... Was the sky falling?

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Posted: 7/10/2015 9:10 AM

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Who the fuck cares wheter there's an asteroid falling into the sun or not.

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Posted: 7/10/2015 12:15 PM

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I think that it's sad when conspiracy theorists and their believers don't have actual curiosity about uncommon phenomena. They want to believe in their fantasies and made-up stories rather than trying to find the real physical cause of things. These causes are often much more interesting than the fables they come up with. Both the atmosphere and cameras have all kinds of physical features that cause all kinds of unexpected visual phenomena. When light traverses through matter, it can behave in all kinds of unexpected ways. And since pareidolia is an essential part of our brain (it's basically essential for our survival), it can trick us, especially with a little coaching, to see all kinds of things and interpret things in completely incorrect ways. Weird atmospheric effects are quite common, such as phantom suns and subsuns. And of course with cameras we have all kinds of lens flares, bokeh effects, etc. etc. And this isn't even going into the fact that a picture on the internet is 100% unreliable, and if you have still not learned that, then shame on you. I can launch up the Gimp and make in a couple of minutes whatever fake sun image you want.

Posted: 7/10/2015 12:26 PM

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2 suns confirmed

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Posted: 7/10/2015 3:41 PM

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I suddenly want to play Chicken Little now for the gamecube.

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Posted: 7/10/2015 5:43 PM

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Posted: 7/11/2015 2:43 PM

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Maybe it's Rahu, the black sun. According to ancient Indian astrology/astronomy, there is a third celestial body, which is the same size as the moon and the sun, which causes lunar eclipses.

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Posted: 7/11/2015 4:01 PM

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Like Warp said, most two Suns phenomena are atmospheric illusions, as I have witnessed myself. However, some of the videos, in which the the second Sun is really strong and circular, I'd dare saying it's edition. Keep in mind that the Sun is watched 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, by amateur and professional astronomers, in several wavelengths of the spectrum and even my spacial telescopes. There's no extra inner planetary object either.

Posted: 7/11/2015 4:38 PM

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Warp wrote:

And since pareidolia is an essential part of our brain (it's basically essential for our survival), it can trick us, especially with a little coaching, to see all kinds of things and interpret things in completely incorrect ways.

It's all part of their plan to deceive us into mindless slaves. They don't want us to trust ourselves and our own senses, they want us to trust them, so that we become their slaves, and we have to go to them to get information and answers (fake answers, like evolution) to the big questions.

And this isn't even going into the fact that a picture on the internet is 100% unreliable, and if you have still not learned that, then shame on you. I can launch up the Gimp and make in a couple of minutes whatever fake sun image you want.

But at the same time you probably believe in the pictures and footage of planets by NASA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8tIm-fxE_s Authorities like NASA are trustworthy? Having studied psychology and Sigmund Freud, it makes sense though that they show us their CGI balls, because it's a way of trying to cover up the truth that they have no real balls.

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Posted: 7/11/2015 5:43 PM

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nfq wrote:

... It's all part of their plan to deceive us into mindless slaves. They don't want us to trust ourselves and our own senses, they want us to trust them, so that we become their slaves, and we have to go to them to get information and answers (fake answers, like evolution) to the big questions.

No, it's all your plan to make us believe we are being tricked into not believing our senses, so we stop trusting real evidence to make us your mindless slaves. (which is of course all part of a greater plan of a certain underground organization (Illuminati) who I am merely playing with in a game of my own devising (the fact that I reveal this is also part of the plan obviously and the fact that I revealed that I revealed that information is also part of the plan, a.s.o.))

nfq wrote:

... Authorities like NASA are trustworthy? Having studied psychology and Sigmund Freud, it makes sense though that they show us their CGI balls, because it's a way of trying to cover up the truth that they have no real balls.

As such it would only make sense for you to suggest that. nfq confirmed as Illuminati. Burn him!

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Posted: 7/11/2015 6:00 PM

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nfq wrote:

Having studied psychology and Sigmund Freud, it makes sense though that they show us their CGI balls, because it's a way of trying to cover up the truth that they have no real balls.

Ah, Freud. That explains why this post sounds like it was made on copious amounts of cocaine.

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Posted: 7/11/2015 6:01 PM

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Samsara wrote:

nfq wrote:
Having studied psychology and Sigmund Freud, it makes sense though that they show us their CGI balls, because it's a way of trying to cover up the truth that they have no real balls.
Ah, Freud. That explains why this post sounds like it was made on copious amounts of cocaine.

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Posted: 7/11/2015 6:08 PM

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Posted: 7/11/2015 6:23 PM

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Or would you prefer Portland, Orgone?

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Posted: 7/12/2015 7:26 AM

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nfq wrote:

But at the same time you probably believe in the pictures and footage of planets by NASA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8tIm-fxE_s

Knowing your past history of postings, I think that you are actually being serious. Which is sad, really. (If you actually made that post in jest, then congrats on a successful troll, I suppose. If the post had been made by anybody else, I would have immediately assumed it was just a joke, but since it's from you... well, Poe's law is in full action. I can't make the difference between satire and seriousness.)

Posted: 7/12/2015 8:49 AM
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Warp wrote:

Knowing your past history of postings, I think that you are actually being serious. Which is sad, really.

But what is sad about it? The fact that NASA doesn't have the balls to tell us the truth, and they show us CGI footage from space? That's sad, I agree. Shouldn't we question NASA, the governments and our rulers, and the things they tell us, or should we just accept their supposed superior knowledge? The earth couldn't possibly be flat, right, because we were all told it's round in school, and we saw a spherical model of it? Our senses which tell us it's flat could lie to us, but our rulers would never lie to us, right? Why do they use a fisheye lense in their space videos to make it appear round? Why is Antarctica occupied by military forces which kill you if you try to go there, even though it's supposed to be no mans land? And by the way, why is Antarctica on Google maps larger than Asia and Europe combined? Maybe because it's an ice wall, and there's more land out there, so they don't want to make the same mistake as when America was discovered. Why does the sun cause a small hotspot on the clouds at 4:17 in this video, if the sun is larger than earth, and 150 million km away? Why does the UN use a flat earth model as a symbol on their flag? Why is there no Antarctica on the flag? Why is it divided into 33 sections, which is the amount of degrees in freemasonry?

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Posted: 7/12/2015 9:15 AM

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People like nfq may tell you crazy stuff, but one thing about it is actually really predictable: Any affiliation to a government = Evil and hiding the truth. But anything that is said by an individual or organization that has nothing to do with a government, is always legit, no matter what crazy things they tell you. Come on, couldn't you guys at least try to be a bit more creative? Why always the government, couldn't private corporations be the evil guys for once? Or the religious organizations? There's plenty of other villains to choose from!

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Posted: 7/12/2015 9:59 AM

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andypanther wrote:

Why always the government, couldn't private corporations be the evil guys for once?

They can of course be evil too. But you know the saying "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." The more money you have, the more power you have. Governments work by using taxes, so they automatically have a lot of money/power. The government can be good if people have enough power, so that the government fears the people, instead of people fearing the government.

Or the religious organizations? There's plenty of other villains to choose from!

They are very often considered "evil", particularly the big religious organizations like the Catholic church. Jews are also very common "villains", again because of the wealth/power. Power is not powerful if it's small, so it tends to concentrate into larger groups. "To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize."

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Posted: 7/12/2015 10:13 AM

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nfq wrote:

... But what is sad about it? The fact that NASA doesn't have the balls to tell us the truth, and they show us CGI footage from space? That's sad, I agree. Shouldn't we question NASA, the governments and our rulers, and the things they tell us, or should we just accept their supposed superior knowledge? The earth couldn't possibly be flat, right, because we were all told it's round in school, and we saw a spherical model of it? Our senses which tell us it's flat could lie to us, but our rulers would never lie to us, right? blablabla

If you seriously believe this, you might have a mental illness (that's borderline paranoid as in paranoid personality disorder). Talk to your psychiatrist. The reason that NASA mostly shows us CGI footage is that you can't just fly around with a camera in space willy-nilly and make planetary showcases (even though the camera movement in some of these videos looks slow, it's probably close to or more than the speed of light; yes you can speed up the footage but it'd also take decades or centuries to capture depending on the scope of the project)). Neither do they have the time and resources to send a space probe on a complicated path around our solar system for decades capturing vast amounts of photos just to see what they already know from observation with high-end telescopes that were built for this exact reason (and there are plenty of non-CGI images around). Space exploration costs serious money but NASA (and ESA, etc) recognize that giving laymen a visualization of what's going on (esp. when maneuvering probes or stuff around the ISS) is an important part of public education, which is why they produce these in the first place. These things are complicated enough, setting up a tens of millions of dollar camera man simply isn't worth it (but occasionally a photo gets snapped when you don't expect it (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pale_Blue_Dot).

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Posted: 7/12/2015 1:20 PM

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RGamma wrote:

If you seriously believe this, you might have a mental illness (that's borderline paranoid as in paranoid personality disorder). Talk to your psychiatrist.

Psychiatry: an industry of death: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5dSZnbugpc

Space exploration costs serious money but NASA (and ESA, etc) recognize that giving laymen a visualization of what's going on (esp. when maneuvering probes or stuff around the ISS) is an important part of public education,

Or maybe a part of public indoctrination? :D Are they really doing space exploration with their money? Maybe they save the money and make CGI and fake photos instead, because they can't get into space?

(and there are plenty of non-CGI images around).

How do we know they are non-CGI? How do we know they are not faked in some other way? How do we know it's a picture of what they claim to be, when we ourselves have never seen it personally? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TOYm90Xddc&t=9m8s

(but occasionally a photo gets snapped when you don't expect it (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pale_Blue_Dot).

Why would I believe a photo on the internet, especially a grainy photo like that? It would be very easy to fake that. Anybody could make a photo like that and claim that it's taken far away in space from a satellite. Why would I believe that a sub-pixel on a photo is earth? What if that photo is part of their plan to deceive us to make us feel small and insignificant, so that people stop believing in God and spirituality and start believing in nihilism, materialism and whatever propaganda they feed us, so that they have more power over us, and people become easier to control, because they have all this special knowledge, like some astronomical priests, and we have to have faith in them.

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Posted: 7/12/2015 1:40 PM

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This is the very easy problem of camera lens. If you picture a very hard light lamp, you will find it, too. I can't watch the youtube, but I think they must show some pitcure of SOHO(a sun satellite of NASA), and say "look! there are too many UFOs around sun." What's a stupid comments! They never know what is noisy. Go back to 2010, some idiots said "they have found the planet named NIBIRU behind the sun". They used a very shitty phone and recording the sunset. They believed this planet would destroy the earth in 2012.

Posted: 7/12/2015 2:19 PM

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nfq wrote:

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I cannot reason you out of something that you didn't reason yourself into. I had hoped you'd take away something from my Illuminati post: The fact that you can take any statement and prepend an infinite chain of conspiracy and doubt to it. In this case you prepended the idea that "the government" created a ridiculously complicated ruse (if you want to see how to do this more effectively look at North Korea) and I prepended the idea of an underground organization (like it's done in Deus Ex to provide some sense of mystery) using you to make us doubt in "the government" and esp. NASA's discoveries (what is commonly seen as a one of the greatest technological achievements of mankind). The difference between a ridiculous and a well-formed claim is that you have something to show for one, the other is unfalsifiable. If common visual artifacts and lens and atmospheric phenomena are all it takes to make you believe in absurd statements, then you truly are susceptible to deception. There surely are dubious things going on (take the NSA/Snowden case) even on a grand scale, but even those are not as grand as hiding the existence of an entire planet near the sun. In fact I claim the following: "The government" uses a certain pattern in the crystalline structure of LCD displays to test on a global scale whether they can convey subliminal messages to users of the LCD without them noticing. As side effect of this can be seen by non-indoctrinated people when they look on a white and bright background of the LCD and, while keeping their head straight, rotate the screen clockwise or counter-clockwise. You should see a faint yellow figure at the center of your vision which is an artifact of the technology they use to later embed invisible visual patterns that alter the mood of the user. Have fun living in your world where everybody is out there to get you.

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