Posted: 6/18/2017 6:19 PM
Post subject: Playstation resolution issue
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RaijinXBlade
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Hello all. If you remember, I reported a problem with the Genesis core having an issue where Bizhawk wouldn't resize games which used interlaced mode properly. Well, it seems there is a similar issue with Playstation, in that games that use interlaced mode don't resize properly (the bios screen is a good example). Also, and I realise this is simply because the emulator isn't resizing, but due to this, the scanline filter in Bizhawk doesn't display correctly either. I wouldn't be surprised if Saturn has this issue also, but I think I can't test that until Bizhawk replaces the Saturn core. Thanks again all, for all your work on Bizhawk. Edit: Here is a couple of example screenshots, if it would help. https://imgur.com/a/Y2smc As you see, the second screenshot is correct, as the normal resolution modes are changing properly.
Posted: 6/22/2017 9:51 PM
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zeromus
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Your image captions are a lie. Those are not 2x windows, they're 1x windows. Bizhawk's view menu says 2x because it's trying to make a 2x window but your monitor is not large enough.
Posted: 6/22/2017 10:48 PM
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RaijinXBlade
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No, they are 2x windows. Bizhawk is in windowed mode, and my monitor is 1920x1080, so it is plenty large enough. What makes you say that it is a lie?
Posted: 6/22/2017 10:56 PM
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natt
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RaijinXBlade wrote:
1080
480x2=960 You'd have to have 120px or less of total chrome for that to fit. Exact amounts vary, but the least I can manage on windows95 theme (which is much slimmer than most newer themes) and a single height taskbar is 100px. Double height taskbar already blows that out. So it's reasonable to expect that you can't do math. Inability to do math is a common issue.
Posted: 6/22/2017 11:17 PM
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RaijinXBlade
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Um... Ok? Here is 4 screenshots of my entire desktop with Bizhawk in windowed mode. First 2 are PS1 bios screen, and I show window sizes 1x in the first and 2x in the second. Second 2 are Valkyrie Profile's save menu as before, and I show 1x in the first, and 2x in the second. https://imgur.com/a/AGFoz
Posted: 6/22/2017 11:26 PM
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I count 52px of titlebar chrome on bizhawk, 29px of statusbar chrome, and 40px of taskbar chrome. (1080 - (52 + 29 + 40)) / 2 = 479.5, so you're one pixel short. Sorry! You can't go on the ride.
Posted: 6/22/2017 11:31 PM
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RaijinXBlade
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natt, I don't even know what you are speaking of. I said my Monitor is 1920x1080, that's all. This report has nothing to do with my monitor. You can see in those screenshots I posted this issue I am bringing up. Screens 1 and 2 are window sizes 1x and 2x, but Bizhawk's window is the same size in both, and scanline filter is erroneous in both, whereas screens 3 and 4 show off a screen which uses normal res mode and show up correctly. I don't care if you want to insult me, if that makes you happy, but are you really not seeing the issue here?
Posted: 6/22/2017 11:33 PM
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Posted: 6/22/2017 11:41 PM
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RaijinXBlade
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So are you saying Bizhawk's window doesn't change sizes at all unless it's able to fit inside your resolution?
Posted: 6/22/2017 11:44 PM
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RaijinXBlade wrote:
So are you saying Bizhawk's window doesn't change sizes at all unless it's able to fit inside your resolution?
That's what zeromus said in the first reply....
Posted: 6/22/2017 11:47 PM
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RaijinXBlade
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Oh well, then that makes sense. I didn't understand what zeromus meant with his wording. I figured it was like other emulators and just resized no matter what. I guess that was all pointless then.
Posted: 6/22/2017 11:51 PM
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natt
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You could try turning off bizhawk's status bar. If you can't get 2x on that screen with the status bar off, I'll eat my shorts
Posted: 6/22/2017 11:57 PM
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RaijinXBlade
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Just tried it without the Status bar. It fits. I deeply apologise. I guess I would have caught that sooner if I would ever change the window size more than 2x, but I honestly can't stand the look up upscaled pixels if it's done by too much :\ Seriously, I am sorry!
Posted: 6/23/2017 1:39 AM
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When you have a PS1 game running: PSX > Options Select "Mednafen Mode (4:3 AR)" and all your worries about the changing resolutions will be gone. You'll still have to deal with interlaced fun cause 480i. Unless I'm reading this all wrong. Cause when you provide screenshots from the PS1 core via BizHawk, your settings get ignored and the screenshots just become 1:1 without giving a damn about any settings you provided.
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Posted: 6/23/2017 2:00 AM
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RaijinXBlade
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Oh, I actually am using Mednafen Mode 4:3 AR (I forgot to mention that). I didn't really care personally about the resizing, but it is neat to see how developers used the resolution modes. I legitimately thought it was an issue though because I had no idea Bizhawk didn't increase the window past the maximum resolution of the monitor.
Posted: 6/23/2017 2:46 PM
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Try making the window frame thin. Maybe it won't require disabling the status bar.
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Posted: 6/23/2017 6:21 PM
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RaijinXBlade
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feos, I tried, and yes, that works too. It just barely fits by doing it that way.