This topic is for the purpose of discussing #5864: ItsameMario203's NES Troll Burner in 02:17.06

Light Spike. 1476 frames of blank input removed. "trollburner_demo.nes" So this isn't the final game. Edit: Forgot that I didn't place my vote or thoughts. This is suboptimal in a good amount of places even when it's a TAS that's under 2 minutes. My vote on Entertainment is Meh, but more can be shaved off from the TAS.

"trollburner_demo.nes" So this isn't the final game.

It is. It's a demo of the NESMaker program in the same way that Super Demo World is a demo of Lunar Magic.

Tbh, I felt meh in terms of entertainment, but I can't help but feel a bit dubious about the movement optimization. Like at about 14 secs, you "burned the troll" but it seemed like it was out of your way anyway and could have been ignored. I've never played this and there could be a reason but, alas, there are no runs notes to go off of.

edit: movie with tricks noted below User movie #45838929824829194 - shooting slows you down horizontally, so you should only shoot when it's crucial - you can jump/shoot before a level starts. however, jumping also has another condition (maybe landing before level started?) - you can damage boost from enemies - you can use the top of the levels a bit... abnormally? so you can get across 2nd level by jumping on the middle wall then pressing A,empty,A,empty,A,empty,A,empty to get inside the "floor" and jump again (A,A) to go to the right (you can't leave the level on the top right corner) Probably will fool more around but needs more time (getting positions and movement values)

okay cool, I wasn't the only one that thought to work on this too I don't have a lot to add beyond what Meshuggah said. - Trolls randomly fly backwards or don't depending on when you shoot them, often like every other frame. If you're at a precise distance from them when you shoot, you can make it through the no-damage period if they don't get pushed backwards. - Shots stopping your momentum is actually a blessing for when you want to get passed a corner at the highest speed if you couldn't otherwise fall passed it/jump over it without bumping into it. Here's a demo movie I threw together in an hour the beats the whole thing in 1:28 and is still improvable: http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/45839714382497456 This isn't the best programmed game, which makes me wonder about the engine it's showing off, but shrug!

Well if the engine has these bugs, it will be great for us (TASers) :)

You're slower than this RTA run, even: Link to video (ignore the timer at the top) In fact, you don't perform a particular glitch which this RTA run does. As a bonus, here's a ViewSync link: https://viewsync.net/watch?v=fC64xYTWmgs&t=0&v=GvRgq2pZJ5s&t=0.9&mode=solo Top is your TAS, bottom is the RTA run.

i know that my tas isnt good enough. its just my first tas.

i know that my tas isnt good enough. its just my first tas.

Please don't submit a TAS if you know that isn't good enough. Instead, upload your movie to userfiles space: http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/my#uploadfile

i know that my tas isnt good enough. its just my first tas.

Please don't submit a TAS if you know that isn't good enough. Instead, upload your movie to userfiles space: http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/my#uploadfile

.... or never submit anything 'kappa'

I don't see a forum topic on this game (*citation needed since I only skimmed the list) posting in a thread on the game, or any game you may have interest in TASing, is the best place to start. You can post WIPs, videos and (potentially) get feedback and discuss techniques and strats there. That way you can submit a run you can stand behind the quality of, and will be entertaining to others.

om, nom, nom... sweet!