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Yup i found a way for wining some frame in the stage 2. There is my edit for the second stage. I will try to find a way for save some time in stage 1 http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/398/dkc2.smv
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If you wanted to submit this, you may want to check whether using this "Hard Mode" code is allowed. I say this because it seems to not be harder, at least in my opinion. There are no DK barrels, but when I played, every time I died, I started again with both Kongs. This actually saves time because there are no DK barrels to avoid picking up, and plus you start with both Kongs. As far as the second level, the comparison is skewed because Blackpearl doesn't have to take the time to break a DK barrel there. He's now tied with Sami's level (1299 frames altogether), but 33 of those frames in Sami's run are spent waiting for Dixie to come out of the barrel. Blackpearl, what I find to be helpful when trying to beat a run is to watch the existing run, and write down frame markers of certain events (like passing a certain box, or killing an enemy) to break the level into segments, and then try to beat each segment. This way, if you are falling behind, you can precisely figure out where, and correct it easier. I also have no idea why Sami's getting desyncs for Blackpearl and vice versa. I'm using "Diddy Kong's Quest (V1.1) (U)", and the crc32 is "4E2D90F4" according to the "Play Movie" dialog box, and both of your runs play fine. Edit: Sami, would you mind editing your post above to make it not so long horizontally? (see my post above for instructions on how)
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Yes i think i will play on normal difficult , hard mode is not realy hard and i can take to much advantage from this.
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even if the hard mode actually saves you time, i dont know why you shouldnt play as it.. ô.o all the games have your own conditions in each difficulty, just because in dkc2 it helps you in some way, imho it doesnt mean you are not supposed to play on hard mode..
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Ineed and this time i will not start again from zero. and i don't see where i lost to much frame in the first stage. And i just noticed this , hard mode can be a real disavantage in some stage so i willl avoid it.
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also, notice that you lost 5 frames between the end of stage 1 and begin of stage 2, comparing it to sami's run anyway, do like JXQ mentioned, divide each stage by parts, and compare it.. i think its easier to find your mistakes, and where to improve^^ gl
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JXQ wrote:
If you wanted to submit this, you may want to check whether using this "Hard Mode" code is allowed. I say this because it seems to not be harder, at least in my opinion. There are no DK barrels, but when I played, every time I died, I started again with both Kongs. This actually saves time because there are no DK barrels to avoid picking up, and plus you start with both Kongs. As far as the second level, the comparison is skewed because Blackpearl doesn't have to take the time to break a DK barrel there. He's now tied with Sami's level (1299 frames altogether), but 33 of those frames in Sami's run are spent waiting for Dixie to come out of the barrel. Blackpearl, what I find to be helpful when trying to beat a run is to watch the existing run, and write down frame markers of certain events (like passing a certain box, or killing an enemy) to break the level into segments, and then try to beat each segment. This way, if you are falling behind, you can precisely figure out where, and correct it easier. I also have no idea why Sami's getting desyncs for Blackpearl and vice versa. I'm using "Diddy Kong's Quest (V1.1) (U)", and the crc32 is "4E2D90F4" according to the "Play Movie" dialog box, and both of your runs play fine. Edit: Sami, would you mind editing your post above to make it not so long horizontally? (see my post above for instructions on how)
I still don't know how :(
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normally, a link is done as follows: http://tasvideos.org/[/url] gives you this: http://tasvideos.org/ If you do this instead: Link to Nesvideos[/url] then you'll get Link to Nesvideos clickable, sending you to that website, without showing a (possibly) huge long url. Similar to the <A HREF> tag in HTML. Not a big deal since we hit a new page, but for future reference. Also, you don't have to put the part after the /###/ of the url on DeHackEd's microstorage. It still links to the same page. [Edited by Bisqwit: real brackets]
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I think this time stage one is perfect. Wining one frame Hum , Sami start at 1501 finish at 3033 I start at 1505 (-4 frames settings) so i can be 1501 to finish at 3036(-4 from setup 3032) http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/410/dkc2.smv
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I don't think it's perfect.. You must play frame by frame if you are doing that.. btw im going to make TEST movie for this game.. :p
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and where you counted your ending frame.. ? :P Sami counted when screen was black
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First frame is during the first game frame apear (just after the blackscreen) so 1005 The last frame is just during the "3 frame stop" when i hit the end mark (3036), And i will don't re start the run. I play f,b,f in some condition.
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You can continue your TAS everywhere where you just want.. save & load wihout Read-only option when you are playing movie.. :p but everyone wants to see really good/fastest possible beating time on this game this game is one of my favourites.. :) you must keep going with frames and check every movememt
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Yes i do the run like this. I note down on a paper some events ,Like Ennemy 1 , 2 , 3 , passing save point , get animal. And i compare all possiblity i can get.
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Blackpearl I think your latest movie is looking great. I'm wondering where Shinryuu thinks it can be improved. Good job!
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Stage 2 wips. This one is improved a lot. http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/415/dkc2.smv
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gj blackpearl^^ improved sami's stage 2 by 52 frames, its a huge improvement
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Stage 3. http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/422/dkc2.smv This one take me around 2 hours , i hate ship stage...
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Hmm looks better, but still some movement looks little clumsy... and some parts can do better :)
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There a good reason if i do some movement at same time. Ex , After a roll i directly can another roll witouth the delay , but if i do the roll diretly i will not hit the nex foe , but all i get is the time delay. Well in some contition i will jump and other just run. If the ennemy is facing right before you and if i directly roll after the previous one i can't reach the foe so i will jump or run , the time is exactly the same. But if the ennemy is in up position from you where (ex a stairs) i will jump there i gain some time , but if the ennemy is down form where you hare i will run i gain more time. Yes some part of this stages look clumsy (especialy the one at the end of the stage) but i have realy no more choice , if i avoid those i will realy lose time in another area. Anyways i will try to find a way to avoid some movements , and i remember didy is a loot better for this stage , i will switch betwen the two chars in this chars i think. Edit , I have tested with diddy ... thats d'ont realy change Anyways i gain 19 frame at the end. , i got very lucky with the rats about the no-auto jump i gain a good amount of time here (around 12 frames).
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I tested that. I stop counting when screen is black. Blackpearl 7251 My 7206 My version is 45 frame's faster. Blackpearl play first two stage because i made this his movie file. http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/424/Stage%203%20Test.smv
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Sami awesome.. 45 frames is much.. :)
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So be it.
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yeah, do it together^^ im sure you two can go far with this
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