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This TAS improves MESHUGGAH's run https://tasvideos.org/3176M by 67 frames. Input from Power On to the beginning of the Keno number reveal is identical to MESHUGGAH's run, as is the input from the end of the Keno number reveal to the final input. What differs is the input during the Keno number reveal.
As per MESHUGGAH's notes, there's a per-reveal timer at $7010 that can be manipulated with input. The minimum value was reached for 14/20 numbers. More specifically: 
 30 - 0x1E (0)
 40 - 0x27 (9)
 50 - 0x1F (1)
 10 - 0x20 (2)
 70 - 0x1F (1)
 28 - 0x1E (0)
 80 - 0x1E (0)
 12 - 0x1E (0)
 60 - 0x1E (0)
 63 - 0x1E (0)
 24 - 0x20 (2)
 29 - 0x1E (0)
 44 - 0x1E (0)
 32 - 0x1E (0)
 15 - 0x1E (0)
 19 - 0x1E (0)
 79 - 0x1E (0)
 20 - 0x1F (1)
 78 - 0x1E (0)
 13 - 0x1E (0)
That leaves 16 frames that can theoretically still be saved during the reveal. Whether that's technically feasible, I leave to someone with more motivation/brains.
nymx: Claiming for judging.
nymx: I have to say, I was also curious about the question of co-authorship. After reviewing the inputs, I found that they are similar in some places—but not in the areas that matter most. Many games will naturally look similar from TAS to TAS, especially during menuing and prompts. However, for this TAS, the important comparison is where the actual optimization takes place.
Between frames 645 and 1945, the inputs in this submission are dramatically different. Since this section contains the core gameplay and optimization, I don’t see how co-authorship would be necessary here. It is also worth noting that we are comparing FM and BK files, with the inputs shifted one frame earlier in BizHawk; this does not affect the conclusion.
Your approach has clearly made a difference, and I congratulate you on the effort.
Accepting over [3176] NES Vegas Dream by MESHUGGAH in 00:50.28.
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Posted: 8/12/2026 6:31 AM
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This topic is for the purpose of discussing #10662: ninespaces's NES Vegas Dream in 00:49.003
Posted: 8/12/2026 6:50 AM
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This TAS improves MESHUGGAH's run by 67 frames.
On principle can this be rejected? My lawyers have informed me that I need to point out that what I wrote is a joke.
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I'm not familiar with this game, but it does sound like MESHUGGAH should at least be offered co-authorship here.
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Posted: 8/13/2026 11:35 PM
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andypanther wrote:
I'm not familiar with this game, but it does sound like MESHUGGAH should at least be offered co-authorship here.
All good with me, if they want it :)
Posted: 8/14/2026 12:10 AM
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I'm not planning on doing anything any time soon, but in case anyone wants to run bots to see if this can be improved, this might help: The "RNG" is located at address $A7, though as you can see in the trace log below, it is more like an entropy byte where the game increments $A7 over and over until the NMI next kicks in: 
C341:  20 13 C1  JSR $C113       A:01  X:4C  Y:00  SP:FD  P:24  nvTbdIzc  Cy:29375255  PPU-Cy:42199
C113:  A9 01     LDA #$01        A:01  X:4C  Y:00  SP:FB  P:24  nvTbdIzc  Cy:29375261  PPU-Cy:42217
C115:  85 51     STA $51         A:01  X:4C  Y:00  SP:FB  P:24  nvTbdIzc  Cy:29375263  PPU-Cy:42223
C117:  E6 A7     INC $A7         A:01  X:4C  Y:00  SP:FB  P:24  nvTbdIzc  Cy:29375266  PPU-Cy:42232
C119:  A5 51     LDA $51         A:01  X:4C  Y:00  SP:FB  P:A4  NvTbdIzc  Cy:29375271  PPU-Cy:42247
C11B:  D0 FA     BNE $C117       A:01  X:4C  Y:00  SP:FB  P:24  nvTbdIzc  Cy:29375274  PPU-Cy:42256
C117:  E6 A7     INC $A7         A:01  X:4C  Y:00  SP:FB  P:24  nvTbdIzc  Cy:29375277  PPU-Cy:42265
C119:  A5 51     LDA $51         A:01  X:4C  Y:00  SP:FB  P:A4  NvTbdIzc  Cy:29375282  PPU-Cy:42280
C11B:  D0 FA     BNE $C117       A:01  X:4C  Y:00  SP:FB  P:24  nvTbdIzc  Cy:29375285  PPU-Cy:42289
C117:  E6 A7     INC $A7         A:01  X:4C  Y:00  SP:FB  P:24  nvTbdIzc  Cy:29375288  PPU-Cy:42298
C119:  A5 51     LDA $51         A:01  X:4C  Y:00  SP:FB  P:A4  NvTbdIzc  Cy:29375293  PPU-Cy:42313
C11B:  D0 FA     BNE $C117       A:01  X:4C  Y:00  SP:FB  P:24  nvTbdIzc  Cy:29375296  PPU-Cy:42322
That explains why inputs (specifically directional inputs) can change the "RNG". How the address $A7 is used to get the delay when drawing the next number (which ranges from 0x1E=30 to 0x2D=45), which is stored in $7010: 
B1BC:  A5 A7     LDA $A7         A:00  X:20  Y:00  SP:FB  P:26  nvTbdIZc  Cy:29999266  PPU-Cy:38061
B1BE:  29 0F     AND #$0F        A:6D  X:20  Y:00  SP:FB  P:24  nvTbdIzc  Cy:29999269  PPU-Cy:38070
B1C0:  18        CLC             A:0D  X:20  Y:00  SP:FB  P:24  nvTbdIzc  Cy:29999271  PPU-Cy:38076
B1C1:  69 1E     ADC #$1E        A:0D  X:20  Y:00  SP:FB  P:24  nvTbdIzc  Cy:29999273  PPU-Cy:38082
B1C3:  8D 10 70  STA $7010       A:2B  X:20  Y:00  SP:FB  P:24  nvTbdIzc  Cy:29999275  PPU-Cy:38088
B1C6:  60        RTS             A:2B  X:20  Y:00  SP:FB  P:24  nvTbdIzc  Cy:29999279  PPU-Cy:38100
At the end of the delay, the game uses $A7 to determine the drawn number (essentially by mod 80) as follows: 
B25B:  A5 A7     LDA $A7         A:B2  X:5B  Y:06  SP:FB  P:A4  NvTbdIzc  Cy:32887155  PPU-Cy:35602
B25D:  C9 50     CMP #$50        A:FD  X:5B  Y:06  SP:FB  P:A4  NvTbdIzc  Cy:32887158  PPU-Cy:35611
B25F:  90 05     BCC $B266       A:FD  X:5B  Y:06  SP:FB  P:A5  NvTbdIzC  Cy:32887160  PPU-Cy:35617
B261:  E9 50     SBC #$50        A:FD  X:5B  Y:06  SP:FB  P:A5  NvTbdIzC  Cy:32887162  PPU-Cy:35623
B263:  4C 5D B2  JMP $B25D       A:AD  X:5B  Y:06  SP:FB  P:A5  NvTbdIzC  Cy:32887164  PPU-Cy:35629
B25D:  C9 50     CMP #$50        A:AD  X:5B  Y:06  SP:FB  P:A5  NvTbdIzC  Cy:32887167  PPU-Cy:35638
B25F:  90 05     BCC $B266       A:AD  X:5B  Y:06  SP:FB  P:25  nvTbdIzC  Cy:32887169  PPU-Cy:35644
B261:  E9 50     SBC #$50        A:AD  X:5B  Y:06  SP:FB  P:25  nvTbdIzC  Cy:32887171  PPU-Cy:35650
B263:  4C 5D B2  JMP $B25D       A:5D  X:5B  Y:06  SP:FB  P:65  nVTbdIzC  Cy:32887173  PPU-Cy:35656
B25D:  C9 50     CMP #$50        A:5D  X:5B  Y:06  SP:FB  P:65  nVTbdIzC  Cy:32887176  PPU-Cy:35665
B25F:  90 05     BCC $B266       A:5D  X:5B  Y:06  SP:FB  P:65  nVTbdIzC  Cy:32887178  PPU-Cy:35671
B261:  E9 50     SBC #$50        A:5D  X:5B  Y:06  SP:FB  P:65  nVTbdIzC  Cy:32887180  PPU-Cy:35677
B263:  4C 5D B2  JMP $B25D       A:0D  X:5B  Y:06  SP:FB  P:25  nvTbdIzC  Cy:32887182  PPU-Cy:35683
B25D:  C9 50     CMP #$50        A:0D  X:5B  Y:06  SP:FB  P:25  nvTbdIzC  Cy:32887185  PPU-Cy:35692
B25F:  90 05     BCC $B266       A:0D  X:5B  Y:06  SP:FB  P:A4  NvTbdIzc  Cy:32887187  PPU-Cy:35698
B266:  AA        TAX             A:0D  X:5B  Y:06  SP:FB  P:A4  NvTbdIzc  Cy:32887190  PPU-Cy:35707
B267:  BD 00 75  LDA $7500,X *   A:0D  X:0D  Y:06  SP:FB  P:24  nvTbdIzc  Cy:32887192  PPU-Cy:35713
B26A:  F0 09     BEQ $B275       A:00  X:0D  Y:06  SP:FB  P:26  nvTbdIZc  Cy:32887196  PPU-Cy:35725
B275:  86 22     STX $22         A:00  X:0D  Y:06  SP:FB  P:26  nvTbdIZc  Cy:32887199  PPU-Cy:35734
B277:  E8        INX             A:00  X:0D  Y:06  SP:FB  P:26  nvTbdIZc  Cy:32887202  PPU-Cy:35743
B278:  8A        TXA             A:00  X:0E  Y:06  SP:FB  P:24  nvTbdIzc  Cy:32887204  PPU-Cy:35749
B279:  20 45 B2  JSR $B245       A:0E  X:0E  Y:06  SP:FB  P:24  nvTbdIzc  Cy:32887206  PPU-Cy:35755
However, if the number was already drawn, then instead of adding the drawn number, the game sets a random delay in $7010 (odd number from 1-15, based on the drawn number) then tries again after that delay: 
B267:  BD 00 75  LDA $7500,X *   A:44  X:44  Y:06  SP:FB  P:64  nVTbdIzc  Cy:34078389  PPU-Cy:35644
B26A:  F0 09     BEQ $B275       A:69  X:44  Y:06  SP:FB  P:64  nVTbdIzc  Cy:34078393  PPU-Cy:35656
B26C:  8A        TXA             A:69  X:44  Y:06  SP:FB  P:64  nVTbdIzc  Cy:34078395  PPU-Cy:35662
B26D:  29 0F     AND #$0F        A:44  X:44  Y:06  SP:FB  P:64  nVTbdIzc  Cy:34078397  PPU-Cy:35668
B26F:  09 01     ORA #$01        A:04  X:44  Y:06  SP:FB  P:64  nVTbdIzc  Cy:34078399  PPU-Cy:35674
B271:  8D 10 70  STA $7010       A:05  X:44  Y:06  SP:FB  P:64  nVTbdIzc  Cy:34078401  PPU-Cy:35680
B274:  60        RTS             A:05  X:44  Y:06  SP:FB  P:64  nVTbdIzc  Cy:34078405  PPU-Cy:35692
That's all I found out.
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This movie has been published. The posts before this message apply to the submission, and posts after this message apply to the published movie. ---- [7331] NES Vegas Dream by ninespaces in 00:49.003