As far as another TAS, I'm not a huge fan of doing one that has been done already because the fun for me lies in optimization on a broader scale rather than specific movements, although I do enjoy both - for example, in the SDW 120-exit run, I really liked figuring out which special items could save time in which levels, and when to deviate from the optimal map path to get them, etc. Of course that also took specific optimizations to find when these items could be glitched into a shortcut, but that's all part of the process.
Anyway, I've thought about several different runs, and I'm wondering what is really in demand at this time, so I went and made a topic about it. I've got several ideas in mind here, but more are welcome!
NES Super Mario 3 - no warps (but not 100% either)
Pros: I like this because I would get to optimize which sets of levels would be the fastest, when to get items from mushroom houses to use on the world map (like music boxes and clouds), and so forth.
Cons: I'd need to learn the SMB3 engine much better than I know it currently. FCEU is not as good of an emulator as SNES9x. Seems like most people here want 100% levels rather than just no warps.
SNES Super Metroid - 100% items
Pros: I just think this would rule. Before emulators ever existed, I worked for awhile on optimizing the route in getting 100% items. SNES9x again, which I love. Michael Flatley had a really good WIP going, but it seems to have been halted for some time now. I could learn a lot from that with the "show controller input" option.
Cons: This game is very complicated. Lots of using the turbo function for the L/R buttons, which I have not had success with in the past.
Genesis Sonic the Hedgehog
Pros: A great game that hasn't been fully TASed yet. Not as complicated as the rest of the series because of the lack of a spin dash, although I'm sure it's still an extremely tough game to optimize.
Cons: Many of the levels have already been done extremely well by Xebra, Ouzo, and a few others, so unless I somehow could do better than they did (which I doubt), then I'd essentially be copying their work for some of the levels, and this is boring to me. I don't know much about Gens, but it seems that it's not as customizable as the other emulators.
GBA Castlevania Harmony of Disonnance
Pros: The different movements acquired in this game make for a very fast-looking run, and a fun challenge in optimizing. VBA seems like a solid emulator.
Cons: I don't know nearly enough about this game to make a good TAS.
SNES Smash TV - 2-player
Pros: Man this would be a sweet.
Cons: It would take a million years, and I have no idea how to efficiently do a 2-player run like that. This is really more of a wish than anything.
I don't know if I'll have the kind of time I devoted to SDW for long enough to finish another game. I'd hate to just add something else to the WIP pile, but once I get working on something, I always seem to find time, so I might as well do this while I'm still enjoying it!
SDW-15 and the SMW runs are possible candidates for improvement down the road, but I'd want to try something else new before I think about trying that.
So, what do you think of these ideas? Or do you have a better one? Suggestions welcome; hit me!
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There's a list of TAS. What i want to see :)
- Megaman 4 (fast as possible)
- Guardian Legend (fast as possible)
- Megaman 5 (fast as possible)
- Megaman 6 (fast as possible)
- Donkey kong Country 2 (100% run & as fast possible)
- Terranigma (100& run & fast as possible)
- Seiken Densetsu 3 (fast as possible)
- Chrono Trigger (100%)
- Seiken Densetsu 2 (100% & fast as possible)
- Bucky O'hare (improvement)
- Breath Of Fire I - II (100%- Runs)
- Golden Sun I (fast as possible) long game ~~
- Lufia I & II
- Super Mario Kart
- Sword Of Mana
- Star Ocean (fast as possible !!!) :)
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Wario Land II for Game Boy would be really sweet.
I almost posted Mischief Makers but I noticed you didn't mention any N64 games in your post, and I think nitsuja might be doing that game anyway (if his awesome WIP is any indication). So nevermind for now I guess!
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Rockman
Rockman 2
Super Metroid 100% run (Michael, where are you??)
Zelda II
Sonic 1
Sonic 3-all-chaos-emeralds-run
tmnt 3 and 4
Superghouls'n'ghosts
Ghouls'n'ghosts
Super R-Type
All Wonderboy games
All Shinobi games
Supercastlevania 4 (if its possible)
Mega Man 5 and 6
Mario N64
Mario Kart N64
Mario Kart (SNES)
Zelda Ocarina Of Time
Zelda Majoras Mask
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Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!
Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
natt wrote:
I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
Cooljay wrote:
Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P
I think he's really just asking which run you guys want him to do next, not runs you want to see in general. I vote for Sonic the Hedgehog because I honestly hate making time attacks and really don't want to finish my run. I'm sure I'd be willing to help critique and optimize the levels I am familiar with (which for Sonic 1 is all of them), just like I did for Quietust's Sonic 2 run.
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NES Megaman 4 (which AngerFist & DeHackEd are currently making)
NES Megaman 5
NES Megaman 6
NES Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2 (2 player run)
NES Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 3 (2 player run)
SNES Donkey Kong Country 3 (105%)
SNES Final Fantasy 5
SNES Final Fantasy 6
SNES Megaman & Bass / Rockman & Forte
GBC Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal
GBA Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire
N64 Banjo Kazooie (100%)
N64 Super Mario 64 (70 and 120 stars)
FF5 and Mario64 (120 stars) are the ones which I could kill for to see them ;)
(I wish Boco would continue making her FF5 testrun)
For me, I'd like to see either Super Mario Bros 3 no-warp OR Super Metroid 100%
I don't mind watching SMB3 on Super Mario All-Stars, I think it has every glitch/trick from NES. (plus try pressing L+R in it -_-)
Thanks for all the feedback! Some interesting choices on these giant lists :)
As far as Mega Man games go, I'm not that interested in TASing those, plus they all have someone dedicated in the game working on them. I thought about doing DKC2 before I started Super Demo World, but I played it a bit and thought the result would be pretty boring, especially for the first two worlds since there are so many shortcut barrels. I personally detest DKC3.
With RPGs & Racing games, I just can't fathom trying to TAS either genre; I think my brain would explode. The same goes for N64 games of the 3D variety - and it doesn't help that I can't get the emulator to work (although I haven't tried much). Plus I'm not interested in 3D games very much. I guess I'm old school.
I'd like to do SMB3 eventually, but I feel like I've had enough Mario for now. So that means either Sonic or Super Metroid. I'm leaning toward Sonic currently, mostly because Saturn is currently working on Super Metroid (except not 100%) and I feel he will discover some good stuff about the game by the time he finishes that will help in a 100% run. Additionally, the route planning for that would be a massive undertaking, whereas Sonic would be more level-by-level (not saying this makes Sonic easy). I know I said I like the broader optimization, but I don't feel I'm up to the challenge of Super Metroid just yet.
So...I think I'm going to spend awhile learning the ins and outs of Sonic, watching existing runs, and learning GENS. I don't want to 100% commit to it yet, but I'll let you all know what I end up deciding to do.
Also Xebra, if I decide to do this, I'll definitely take you up on the help offer because I do not know this game nearly as well as you or several others. Thanks!
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Like JXQ said, he is a bit tired of all Mario playing. On with Sonic! But be warned, that game is so badly cursed that cursed itself wonders when the Sonic-curse will end.. How many times did I say cursed?
Nitrogenesis wrote:
Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!
Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
natt wrote:
I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
Cooljay wrote:
Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P
one more vote for smb3 ^^ consider that fabian liked it XD
Forget what I said. When I joined this site it was VIPer7's SMW run and Michael's Super Metroid run that got me interested. Except for the newer SMW/SDW runs, those two are probably still my very favourites. I'd love to see the Metroid run finished, so there goes my new vote.
Sonic 1 is a very solid choice though. I think it's a shame Genesis games recieve so little interest in general on this forum, because I was a Genesis kid so I know some of the games from personal experience, which is not the case for any other emulator. Sonic 1 needs to be done and I can see no one better than JXQ to lift the curse.
I vote for SMB3 as well, and the Super Metroid 100%. I could do both myself but I just can't do them to our standards. In fact I HAVE done them both myself but just never recorded it, mainly because it was on the original console, and was just for fun.
Guybrush: "I'm selling these fine leather jackets."
Wally: "Really?"
Guybrush: "No. I 'm lying."
Wally: "In that case, I don't want one!"
Currently working on:
Nothing at the moment.
Super Metroid 100% [SNES]
Uniracers [SNES]
Earthworm Jim 1, 2 [SNES]
Alien Soldier [Genesis]
Dune [Genesis]
Metroid Fusion 0% and 100% [GBA]
Super Spy Hunter [NES]
That's kinda my favourite games, and most of them would make beautiful TASes. Well, actually with some of them already being developed, which is a great pleasure for me.
But of all that list, Super Metroid 100% is a must.
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Edit: I think I understand now: It's my avatar, isn't it? It makes me look angry.
Well, looking back at this list I made about six months ago,
NES Super Mario 3 - no warps (but not 100% either) - Finished.
SNES Super Metroid - 100% items - Finished.
Genesis Sonic the Hedgehog - Finished.
GBA Castlevania Harmony of Disonnance - Kaz is working on this run and doing a great job.
SNES Smash TV - 2-player - To my surprise, finished.
SDW-15 and the SMW runs - Finished, finished, Fabian.
Hmm...I seem to be too efficient for my own good. ;) I would definitely like to contribute to the total sum of awesomeness of the universe (as Truncated put it), but I seem to have exhausted my own ideas for the time being. I'd like to do Blast Corps, but Mupen64 disagrees. I also think it'd be neat to do a Game Boy or GBA game. The emulator seems top-notch.
So, I'll be looking through existing lists around here for a bit. If anyone has any ideas for games that might be interesting to run, please share.
JXQ's user page wrote:
It's possible there is a game I would like to do that hasn't crossed my mind yet. However, don't feel bad if I don't take your suggestion, because not every game is interesting for me to do a run of.
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