Experienced Forum User, Published Author, Site Admin, Skilled player
(1524)
Joined: 3/20/2014
Posts: 1763
Location: Dumpster
Alyosha wrote:
I think Bionic Commando can lose its star, it's pretty average.
arandomgametaser wrote:
You could probably remove Shattered Dimensions all items if you want. It's not that impressive overall.
I really like both of these TASes :(
But seriously though I don't buy that these aren't totally examples of being your own worst critic.
I actually showed somebody I know the latter and they bought the game as a result soooooo
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
Experienced Forum User, Published Author, Site Admin, Skilled player
(1524)
Joined: 3/20/2014
Posts: 1763
Location: Dumpster
Arc wrote:
Memory wrote:
I think nominating your own movies is a bad idea tbh as well.
I didn't officially nominate anything. I objectively noted a list of some highly rated non-star TASes that the community as a whole appears to prefer over some of the worst stars. Is there really no one who finds it absurd that Coca Cola Kid has a star for the sake of diversity while the 3rd-highest rated TAS on the site does not?
Ignoring my point about ratings altogether I see.
Coca Cola Kid is actually a very entertaining TAS from what I remember whereas 70 star feels like it is where it is because it's another Mario 64 TAS rather than one of the best Mario 64 TASes. Ratings are inherently flawed in and of themselves so there needs to be more to it than just that.
EDIT: Movie diversity is listed as a key concern in the starman guidelines too.
EDIT2: To clarify I definitely think some games should be changed within the star list but relying overly on one system of measurement (ratings) is not good.
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
Experienced Forum User, Published Author, Site Admin, Skilled player
(1524)
Joined: 3/20/2014
Posts: 1763
Location: Dumpster
Radiant wrote:
feos wrote:
See, NES is overrepresented, and we want diversity. So far Arc suggests to overrepresent Mario, Zelda, Castlevania and Maga Man even harder to fix that.
And so far I don't see a lot (or indeed, any) people in this thread agreeing with him.
...that suggests that he probably should not be the new "star man".
I would agree with this.
EDIT: I also feel that too much attention is given to the ratings of movies. Now in the past they may have been a good measure of movie popularity, etc. but now movies frequently get little to no ratings on them whatsoever.
EDIT2:
Arc wrote:
13. NES Zelda II: The Adventure of Link (USA) "warpless" by Arc, FatRatKnight, Inzult & Rising Tempest in 45:26.04 (2016) (8.5) - There are 3 Zelda II TASes, all 8.4+ rated (top 100), yet none starred. FRK's solution to get 2 fairies in the Valley of Death is a shining example of achieving the impossible.
Arc wrote:
16. NES The Battle of Olympus (USA) by Arc & nesrocks in 09:55.37 (2017) (8.3) - Impossible hyperspeed maneuvering and luck manipulation.
I think nominating your own movies is a bad idea tbh as well.
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
Experienced Forum User, Published Author, Site Admin, Skilled player
(1524)
Joined: 3/20/2014
Posts: 1763
Location: Dumpster
Arc wrote:
Is it not true that SOME movies do not hold up as well today because of advancements in tools, scripts, and game knowledge, in addition to potential changes of taste in entertainment? Older movies should be examined from a modern perspective to see if they are still worthy of the star designation. Is that a controversial statement?
I feel those that don't hold up in terms of entertainment sure should be demoted for sure, but those that are just dated should be a motivator for people to attempt to obsolete them. It appears that somehow the motivation isn't there though which is kind of depressing.
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
Experienced Forum User, Published Author, Site Admin, Skilled player
(1524)
Joined: 3/20/2014
Posts: 1763
Location: Dumpster
Warp wrote:
At least YouTube hasn't been using flash in years.
Youtube switched over to HTML5 quite a while ago.
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
Experienced Forum User, Published Author, Site Admin, Skilled player
(1524)
Joined: 3/20/2014
Posts: 1763
Location: Dumpster
grassini wrote:
IMO. I don't even think certain normal games should be speedran at all,like Kirby(such a slow paced platformer is better for enjoying it normally,it really feels like a game better enjoyed slowly).Just a digression.
What? Some kirby games are slow sure but not all of them, nor even many of them.
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
Experienced Forum User, Published Author, Site Admin, Skilled player
(1524)
Joined: 3/20/2014
Posts: 1763
Location: Dumpster
Nice stuff! Especially the chain rod usage everywhere. Grappling hook mechanics always lead to fun TASes.
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
Experienced Forum User, Published Author, Site Admin, Skilled player
(1524)
Joined: 3/20/2014
Posts: 1763
Location: Dumpster
Nye for doing some really overlooked Saturn TASes that were cool
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
Experienced Forum User, Published Author, Site Admin, Skilled player
(1524)
Joined: 3/20/2014
Posts: 1763
Location: Dumpster
Nominating Fitterspace
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
Experienced Forum User, Published Author, Site Admin, Skilled player
(1524)
Joined: 3/20/2014
Posts: 1763
Location: Dumpster
Fog wrote:
FitterSpace is the obvious choice here
Seconding this
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
Experienced Forum User, Published Author, Site Admin, Skilled player
(1524)
Joined: 3/20/2014
Posts: 1763
Location: Dumpster
VBA is deprecated for GameBoy.
EDIT: Also Bizhawk is far from unstable I have no idea where you got that idea from.
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
Experienced Forum User, Published Author, Site Admin, Skilled player
(1524)
Joined: 3/20/2014
Posts: 1763
Location: Dumpster
Nicely done!
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
Experienced Forum User, Published Author, Site Admin, Skilled player
(1524)
Joined: 3/20/2014
Posts: 1763
Location: Dumpster
Progress has been rather slow on this lately, I've uploaded some laps to my youtube channel that I haven't posted here yet, but I'm still on the same track.
I've finally gotten to the point where health is a major concern. While I did remember that your top speed is lowered when at Low Power, I did not remember that it applied to boost as well. I may have to reroute some of the earlier laps, we'll see.
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
Experienced Forum User, Published Author, Site Admin, Skilled player
(1524)
Joined: 3/20/2014
Posts: 1763
Location: Dumpster
@Warp whether entitlement is "justified" or not, they'd have to justify it in place of another run. There's only 150 hours in the marathon, no matter how the games were chosen, there needs to be some reason to choose submissions over others and quite frankly I can't blame the organizers for choosing the amount of TAS content they did. I've talked to plenty of people outside of TASVideos about the TAS Blocks at GDQ's and I've heard plenty of people express various complaints about them. Many straight up no longer care about the TAS Blocks, think the ACE stuff has gotten stale, or think that there's no point to showing something in a marathon that could just be watched on youtube at any time. To them, a TAS Block would be a waste of schedule space. That's why I personally cannot blame GDQ staff for the drastic reduction of TAS Block nor can I think anyone can realistically blame them.
Masterjun wrote:
So far the only particularly successful TASes at the GDQ's have been the technical demonstrations.
Like pong, pokemon plays twitch chat, etc.
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
Experienced Forum User, Published Author, Site Admin, Skilled player
(1524)
Joined: 3/20/2014
Posts: 1763
Location: Dumpster
People are taking things way too personally around here and feel way too entitled. So far the only particularly successful TASes at the GDQ's have been the technical demonstrations. If you want TASes to be at GDQs, prove they can be successful cause so far the evidence doesn't suggest they really can. Monkey Ball will be one source of evidence but if you want more TASes at GDQs... Submit them to other marathons and stuff. GDQs look at whether or not something had a successful showing at another event and it really helps. Cause all I'm seeing in this thread is just feelings that TASVideos is entitled to a block because it's TASVideos.
Plenty of other people would want those slots. Plenty of people would go to the event when they only have one game that's shorter than monkey ball. The entitlement is just so real.
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
Experienced Forum User, Published Author, Site Admin, Skilled player
(1524)
Joined: 3/20/2014
Posts: 1763
Location: Dumpster
I'm definitely aware of the health situation and will drift through the health refill if I need to.
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
