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Mega Man PC - the single worst game of the entire Mega Man series. Designer, programmer, graphics and sound were all produced by one man, Stephen Rozner. Here is a TAS. I'm... sorry?
  • Takes Damage to Save Time
  • Why God, Why?

The Order

Sonic is weak to dyno, volt is weak to sonic, and dyno is weak to volt. However, Volt is the only boss I use another boss weapon against. Also, dyno's stage has ants that can't be killed without sonic's weapon, so Sonic first!

The glitches

Perhaps not a glitch, but bosses have no invulnerability - this means they die, very, very fast to any weapon. I found one useless glitch in Wily's stage. If you die at the same time as a boss- before the camera restores to being focused on Mega Man, the camera focus movement gets saved, and loaded when you come back to life- thus, you end up visually inside a wall, but the game plays as normal - the level graphics are just offset.

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Type: HDD, 16 tracks, 16 sides, 63 sectors.
Files table:
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FractalFusion: This game is either not emulated correctly, or not speed-throttled correctly, or the AVI dump cannot be produced correctly. The only result is an unwatchable movie. Thus, rejecting.
adelikat: Unrejecting for reconsideration for publication to the Vault
Nach: Being quite familiar with this game both on a 3x86 16 MHz, and on much later CPUs, this game looks like it's emulated properly to me. The speed-throttling is left up to the user to decide. This seems to be a decent TAS. However the game is utter garbage.
Accepting for vault.
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Posted: 10/7/2011 2:01 AM
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Demon_Lord
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DarkKobold wrote:
This is the problem with any non-throttled game. In the programmer's defense, Hi-Tech Expressions basically gave it to one poor dude to do the sound, graphics, and gameplay. I'd love to do an interview with Stephen Rozner, the guy who programmed the game. He may be able to fill in some of the pieces, such as how the hell Hi-Tech ever got the license.
According to his Linked-In profile ( https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=6201221 ), he worked for Capcom in 1989 and 1990, so I guess he had connections.
Posted: 10/7/2011 4:48 AM
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Torn338
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I'm... honestly not sure what I just watched. The DOS Mega Mans were just bad, I've watched videos of them on youtube about this game, and even as a TAS, it's something I really wouldn't want to play/watch a video on (though I was just curious this time). Thanks for making this though, not that it was entertaining, but it was quite interesting (to show had bad it was mind you).
Posted: 10/7/2011 1:36 PM
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Cheezwizz
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I'm laughing at how almost every fucking DOS tas just involves making the game run faster than intended thanks to the benefit of CPU speed. Surely you can TAS ALL these games at the default, recommended, intended, etc. speed that the designers had in mind when creating it? Or are you going to make TAS a joke?
Posted: 10/7/2011 1:44 PM
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ShadowWraith
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Cheezwizz wrote:
I'm laughing at how almost every fucking DOS tas just involves making the game run faster than intended thanks to the benefit of CPU speed. Surely you can TAS ALL these games at the default, recommended, intended, etc. speed that the designers had in mind when creating it? Or are you going to make TAS a joke?
I'd have thought it was pretty obvious that the game running faster wasn't done intentionally. >_>
Posted: 10/7/2011 11:36 PM
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Dada
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Link to video Thanks to Ilari there's now a Youtube version of this run.
Posted: 10/8/2011 12:15 AM
(Edited: 10/8/2011 12:23 AM)
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Ferret_Warlord
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Cheezwizz: From poking around the game' settings myself, I think there may not be a "default speed" for this game. The way it strikes me is that the guy making this just got the game to run at all, had the speed be CPU based, and handed some speed controls to the player for them to decide what speed they were comfortable playing at. Very bad design, and it makes deciding what to do here tricky. Put differently, I'm not so sure the guy intended any particular PC setup for this to run. (I kinda love submissions like this for forcing issues and sparking debates on what needs to be done)
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Posted: 10/8/2011 12:16 AM
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Dada
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That wasn't very uncommon back in the late 80s and very early 90s. Maybe CPU throttled applications were simply easier to make, and the setting is, like you say, there to allow people to set the speed to something comfortable.
Posted: 10/8/2011 9:48 AM
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Lex
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I enjoyed that 30 fps YouTube version. The encode was simply slowed down to 30 fps, right? Was the audio simply a stretch? The pitch is lower, when I thought it shouldn't be.
Posted: 10/8/2011 9:53 AM
(Edited: 10/8/2011 6:33 PM)
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Ilari
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Lex wrote:
I enjoyed that 30 fps YouTube version. The encode was simply slowed down to 30 fps, right? Was the audio simply a stretch? The pitch is lower, when I thought it shouldn't be.
The video is indeed slowed down to 30fps (giving ~42.8% speed). And oops on that audio. I meant to use tempo change (which does not change pitch) but actually used speed change (which also changes pitch). What I did to the audio was first to reduce volume, then reduce speed and finally to add delay to compensate for the logo being there. Oh, and I figured out the speed thing: * F2 increments a certain counter * F1 decrements the counter * This counter can have values 0-64. * This counter is located at 0x7EF bytes after X-position * If one skips config.sys and autoexec.bat on the standard disk, that is 0x40F16. * This counter determines amount of junk operations to perform on each frame. * The maximum speed game can run at is 1 ingame frame per 1 VGA frame ("1:1 speed") * The 1:1 speed is corresponds to running speed of about 1.75 screenfuls per second. * JPC-RR clockspeeds don't go low enough for this game to slow down from that 1:1 speed with 0 junk ops per frame. * Those junk operations are CPU-bound, so when the counter is large enough, clockspeed does affect game speed. * 64 junk ops at cpudiv 100 (10MIPS) is about 25% speed. * 64 junk ops at cpudiv 256 (the minimum, about 3.9MIPS) is about 10% speed. * At about 40MIPS (would be cpudiv 25) this game becomes impossible to slow down at all, always running at that 1:1 speed. Two demo encodes about effects of F2 (CPUDiv 256; encodes themselves haven't been slowed down): 8 junk ops, ~50% speed 14 junk ops, ~33% speed
Posted: 10/8/2011 10:56 AM
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Lex
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I think that might still not produce accurate audio. To be accurate, should each sound effect's length be the same as in the original video, but start at the same frame? This would require a re-dump at a throttled 30 fps, if possible. The sounds in the original video sound like they would be correct, but are just played more often than they should be, simply due to the speed of the gameplay. However, I haven't played the game so this is all just a guess.
Posted: 10/8/2011 11:08 AM
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Cheezwizz
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I should just whip out my 386 and install megaman. That would pretty much solve everything.
Posted: 10/8/2011 8:08 PM
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I think I still have the floppy disk with this on it. I always figured it was a bootleg, but I guess that wasn't the case.
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Posted: 10/8/2011 8:18 PM
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Cheezwizz
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here I am trying to play megaman on a broken keyboard while standing out of view. This is on a 386SX http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R12MZ6SXwyE
Posted: 11/29/2012 12:31 AM
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Dacicus
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No vote due to incorrect emulation. Also, Dynaman's stage isn't optimal: Jumping on the conveyor belts that are moving opposite to Mega Man (around 3:25 on the YT encode) would be faster than walking. DarkKobold does it properly a few seconds later on the conveyor belts.
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Posted: 11/29/2012 12:59 AM
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Dacicus wrote:
No vote due to incorrect emulation. Also, Dynaman's stage isn't optimal: Jumping on the conveyor belts that are moving opposite to Mega Man (around 3:25 on the YT encode) would be faster than walking. DarkKobold does it properly a few seconds later on the conveyor belts.
if the settings are still incorrect, yeah, no
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Posted: 11/29/2012 1:02 AM
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Ferret_Warlord
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Dacicus wrote:
No vote due to incorrect emulation.
Actually, it's not incorrect emulation. The speed it's running at is the high speed cap. It was designed for slower computers.
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Posted: 11/29/2012 3:48 AM
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Dwedit
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I see this is back now, but the encode still has bad audio. It looks like the movie was literally halved in speed, audio and all. Sound effects are at half pitch and half speed. (edit: was replied to before editing the post to indicate that it's not really half speed)
Posted: 11/29/2012 3:50 AM
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Dwedit wrote:
I see this is back now, but the encode still has bad audio. It looks like the movie was literally halved in speed, audio and all. Sound effects are at half pitch and half speed.
It is not half, it is ~42% speed. And apparently I didn't get the audio right when changing speed...
Posted: 11/29/2012 3:54 AM
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Dwedit
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The crazy thing is that the sound effects are the only part of the game that sync correctly on any CPU speed. Either way though, this game is next to impossible to accurately time it. I guess you just need to pick a frame rate and ignore any lag.
Posted: 11/29/2012 5:06 AM
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Ilari
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Dwedit wrote:
Either way though, this game is next to impossible to accurately time it. I guess you just need to pick a frame rate and ignore any lag.
The exact frame rate is IIRC 125875/1796 fps. And the gameplay is pretty much lag-free.
Posted: 1/1/2013 7:23 PM
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This movie has been published. The posts before this message apply to the submission, and posts after this message apply to the published movie. ---- [2247] DOS Mega Man by DarkKobold in 02:23.55
Posted: 1/2/2013 3:42 AM
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OmegaWatcher
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wait, wasn't a rule against actually unwatchable movies in the vault?
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Posted: 1/2/2013 5:29 AM
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My usage of the word "unwatchable" in the submission is invalid for this purpose because it comes before the site publication reform. The usage is also incorrect as it was merely to emphasize what I perceived to be incorrect emulation causing the game to run "too fast". However, emulation is deemed to be correct, so this submission passes. Currently, the word "unwatchable" has devolved into a buzzword to indicate one's personal preference about a movie (i.e. entertainment). Usage of that word should now be avoided.
Posted: 1/2/2013 5:58 PM
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I'm quite glad this showed up in the vault, after all. The brief summary in the movie link is misleading, though, as it states: "It was released in the US as part of a popular Mega Man + Street Fighter CD bundle, when Pentium II CPUs were standard." The game was originally released in 1990, both on a 5.25" and a 3.5" floppy (I still have both ^_^). The game played decently well even on pre-386 machines, as were common when it was released. (Well, it played well despite the crappy game -- you know what I mean.) The Pentium II did not show up until the end of the 90's (1997-1999). Personally, I liked this game just because it was new Mega Man content that I hadn't seen before -- and I actually owned it, as opposed to just renting the rest of the series from Blockbuster.
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Posted: 11/4/2013 4:14 AM
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North Bus wrote:
I'm quite glad this showed up in the vault, after all. The brief summary in the movie link is misleading, though, as it states: "It was released in the US as part of a popular Mega Man + Street Fighter CD bundle, when Pentium II CPUs were standard." The game was originally released in 1990, both on a 5.25" and a 3.5" floppy (I still have both ^_^). The game played decently well even on pre-386 machines, as were common when it was released. (Well, it played well despite the crappy game -- you know what I mean.) The Pentium II did not show up until the end of the 90's (1997-1999). Personally, I liked this game just because it was new Mega Man content that I hadn't seen before -- and I actually owned it, as opposed to just renting the rest of the series from Blockbuster.
This was sold in a store? And people actually bought this crap? Here's my thoughts on that matter.
LLCoolDave wrote:
This seems to be competing for the "Worst looking TAS of 2011" Award.
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