This topic is for the purpose of discussing #3627: Marx's NES Ninja Gaiden II: The Dark Sword of Chaos "Lonewolf" in 10:00.46

http://tasvideos.org/1497S.html Official TAS is 9:14 long. Care to explain a bit more about your "old glitch and strategy"?

http://tasvideos.org/1497S.html Official TAS is 9:14 long. Care to explain a bit more about your "old glitch and strategy"?

official run ain't lonewolf

...and the difference being...?

Yep

...and the difference being...?

No ghost ninja helpers.

Yeah right:-)

I don't feel we need a new category if the only difference is that. =\

Hmm... interesting. You don't pick up any shadow clones, which should make the gameplay more like the other two NES Ninja Gaiden games. It sounds like a good console speedrunning challenge, but I'm not so sure I like it as a TAS. For one thing, in a "lonewolf" run, you have to take lots of damage, everywhere. It's no longer just for getting boosts to high platforms; you need to take damage just to avoid letting enemies slow you down, since your shadow clones aren't there to kill enemies behind you. This makes the run look sloppy, but it's unavoidable. The other big problem with a lonewolf run is the boss fights. You deal way less damage, so bosses go through more attack patterns. This was interesting to see for some of the final bosses (the first and last), but otherwise it wasn't as fun to watch. Furthermore, you saved all your ninja points for boss battles, so you couldn't use as many weapons during the stages, which makes those stages less interesting. I think this is fairly well-played. It's a low rerecord count compared to Scumtron's run, but I don't see any big mistakes. (I'd like to see more bosses slashed quickly by wobbling and slashing... it seems like that only works on some bosses though.) I'm not sure, though, that the goal is entertaining enough to be published alongside our current run. I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on why you tried this run. What makes lone wolf interesting enough to be published alongside the current run?

i'm not sure this is publishable. i'll vote meh, just to be safe.

So lonewolf is not entertaining. Ok lets try sword only (with clones)

So lonewolf is not entertaining. Ok lets try sword only (with clones)

Try "pacifist" with taking damage! The third game, it has the most amount of enemies. This would be real challenge and will require intresting decisions. Additional weapons are okay too.

Okay

Is using (J) rom okay.

If the only difference is a language, no. You need some solid reasons.

Completely all different *enemy randomness *item pickups *damage per hit

Oh, then go for it, if it gives reasonable advantages. Just make sure people would agree with your choise and won't fire up a holywar like here.

Ok sure. in some boss fight it is even faster than scumtron's publish run. I'll upload WIP and lets see if its ok

This looks well done and is as entertaining as you'd expect a Ninja Gaiden run to be. Biggest differences seem to be on bosses which was sometimes interesting. Sorry, but I don't think it's significantly different enough to publish. Not familiar with the (J) version but that could be interesting.

This looks well done and is as entertaining as you'd expect a Ninja Gaiden run to be. Biggest differences seem to be on bosses which was sometimes interesting. Sorry, but I don't think it's significantly different enough to publish. Not familiar with the (J) version but that could be interesting.

someone should TAS the (j) version its lot easier and items are on good position to pick.

om, nom, nom... want more!