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Is it possible to get up on the platform and not let the Beamos see you?? I have just enough health to get outside of the Spirit Temple to get touched by 1 leever and die.
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Doing it on the left side of the Beamos will give you more time. I take it you only have three hearts. The Iron knuckle will revive all your energy.
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No, I don't think there's any way to evade the Beamos once you're on the ledge. Don't recover any health for the rest of the dungeon, so that you die in the fastest time possible. AKA, can you quit uploading oversized avatars. kthx.
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Can you skip the text that the fairy tells you about the monsters shadows on the ground?
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Those seem to be pretty hard to avoid, so I doubt it, but it may be possible.
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Since the text is triggered right beyond the door, no. The text can not be skipped. What is your background with this game, by the way? Your testrun's looking really good.
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So where is Guabo (sry had to do that) now. Has he made it to Zelda yet. During the guard sequence you can backwalk past the guards, but its important to manipulate the right setup for the last set of guards. I've now worked out that pretty much all Deku sticks can be saved. On the Iron Knuckle you don't have to jump slash with a deku stick, all you have to do is jump slash with a stick and miss, then just use crouch stabs. Same thing applied to Dondongo and Barinade.
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If he has three sticks, he might as well use them. Misses take time.
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Getting extra sticks also waste time.
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So you have to time these little things against each other, huh? Time spent getting a stick versus time lost missing with a stick versus time lost not using a stick to help beat the enemy at all?
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Sounds like a sticky situation!
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Sounds like a sticky situation!
I hope it doesn't stick out too much.
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Just stick to it Guamo (hehe).
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As funny as all of you budding comedians are; can we keep this on topic?
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The topic of Deku Sticks?
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How about Giant's Knife vs. Whack-a-Mole Hammer?
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Oh, right. What would be good times to pick up either of those?
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Well, for the Giant's Knife, right after the Shadow Temple. Grab the Wallet while you're in Kakariko and then head up to the Goron's City. The non-trivial part is finding the closest 10 Skulltula. EDIT: Looking over the wiki for the run, I notice it doesn't even get the megaton hammer? Is this because the hookshot can damage Ganon? Or something else you have in your inventory? (I can't think of anything though...)
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I hope all the run planners didn't just forget about the Ganon battle...
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There will certainly be enough Light Arrows for Ganon. I don't think you're serious, but the idea taking a detour to get the Hammer or any other item is simply ludicrous. AKA, what the heck are you talking about? Guano collected three Deku Sticks before entering the tree. He might as well use them before he becomes an adult and can't equip them anymore. I've simply suggested the three best enemies to use them on as to minimize wasted time. A missed jumpslash is a few seconds' loss. Guano, how far are you now? Any updates would be welcome, but feel free to produce the run at your own pace.
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I didn't know Light Arrows actually did damage to Ganon. I thought they only did stun time. How many arrows does it take? Will you have enough magic?
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mwl wrote:
AKA, what the heck are you talking about? Guano collected three Deku Sticks before entering the tree. He might as well use them before he becomes an adult and can't equip them anymore. I've simply suggested the three best enemies to use them on as to minimize wasted time. A missed jumpslash is a few seconds' loss.
A missed jumpslash on Dondongo or Barinade will not waste time. 1. When Dondongo swallows a bomb there is more than enough time to miss with a stick and then crouch stab without losing any time. The second time Dondongo is stunned you just keep power crouch until he falls as picking up a bomb does not cancel out a power crouch. Endlessley power-crouching while Dondongo is stunned is just as fast and much easier as it saves time trying to jumpslash with frame perfect timing. 2. For Barinade there is plenty of oportunities to mis-jumpslash with a stick without losing time. Chill out, you only need 3 sticks, but you would require 5 maybe more if you didn't mis jump slash. My logic is 1. Use on Gohma 2. *Use on Iron knuckle 3. Mis-jumpslash Barinade and Dondongo. * we may be able to use it on the armos and carry the power crouch over to the knuckle, but I don't know since I haven't tested this theory. So infact there is only need to break 2 sticks.
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I didn't know Light Arrows actually did damage to Ganon. I thought they only did stun time. How many arrows does it take? Will you have enough magic?
Light arrows stun Ganon if you shoot him in the face. Using light arrows on Ganon shouldn't be part of any run ,only as a last resort. I reccon that there is 4 light arrows needed unless there is a faster way. 1. On stalfos in tower 1. For Ganondorf 2. On stalfos during escape According to Yautja, the leap of faith can be made. The only phase left is the valley of doom. (Refer to my link if you don't understand what I'm saying)
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AKA wrote:
According to Yautja, the leap of faith can be made.
What exactly do you mean with leap of faith?
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YautjaElder wrote:
AKA wrote:
According to Yautja, the leap of faith can be made.
What exactly do you mean with leap of faith?
You should have read what I said in brackets at the bottom of the page http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4tSbpE9Y3I That is what I'm refering to you. I guess I misinterptreted your comment on it.
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Hey everyone, right now Im trying to fight Iron Knuckle. But I tried something and when I jump off the top after I get the Gauntlets I will die but appear at the top where I jumped off at. Do I need to save then not continue? Also, I believe that in rooms you can kill enemies while trying to reach where you are going and be able to manipulate a deku stick if you happen to have to use one.
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