mwl
Joined: 3/22/2006
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The Last Segment Inventory Check * Light Arrows - Used to stun Ganondorf * Bombs - Keep 'em there to save time * Deku Nuts - Used in phase 1 of Ganon battle Rainbow Bridge You'll trigger it the usual way (by walking up to the pit). Unless someone figures out a way to do the Walk of Doom and super-slide in under 40 seconds altogether, save yourself the trouble for now. Skip the Trials Video by Smallmuck: http://youtube.com/watch?v=523XQCOoJxE You push the Armos in the Spirit chamber into a position such that it forms an acute angle with the wall, and then you jumpslash right through. Pretty straightforward. Be sure to use "soft-pushing" on the Armos. Ascending Ganon's Tower General advice: * Use your Deku Nuts to stun enemies if necessary, but be sure to have at least 10 remaining for Ganon. * Of course, the attack power of your initial jumpslash can be preserved throughout the entire tower. * Use rolls, sidehops, and backwalking (if you can manage it) on the spiral staircases. 1F - Entry chamber - Keese 2F - Dinolfos x2 (12 HP each) 3F - Stalfos x2 (10 HP each) - Boss Key 4F - Iron Knuckle x2 (30 HP each) 5F - Battle chamber - Lower level - Just head to the other door 6F - Ganondorf Battle (see below) Ganondorf (40 HP) Video by me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zYbaVb31co This is definitely the optimal strategy for this battle. Don't Hookshot the central pillar--it's faster to simply hover. You'll have to do a bit of luck manipulation so that Ganondorf doesn't do another time-wasting slam attack once you're on the pillar. Then, fire the Light Arrow and be sure to hit him on the downslash. You'll need to do nine crouching stabs instead of four--I used the Biggoron's Sword. Escape If I recall correctly, the record is 1'28" remaining on the timer. 1'30" should be doable. Here are TSA's splits in his 4h 57m run: 6F - Start: 3' 5F - Enter: 2'45" (near-optimal); Exit: 2'39" (near-optimal) 4F - Enter: 2'33" (near-optimal); Exit: 2'28" (near-optimal) 3F - Enter: 2'22" (near-optimal); Exit: 1'50" (very non-optimal) 2F - Enter: 1'45" (near-optimal); Exit: 1'38" (slightly non-optimal) 1F - Enter: 1'28" (near-optimal); Exit: 1'15" (non-optimal) By "near-optimal," I mean no hits by falling rocks, and no apparent delays. Ganon (10+10 hits) Video by AKA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgT1bpr_HOg Phase 1: The most efficient known strategy involves locking onto his tail and firing one Deku Nut after another. Just try to squeeze in as many Nuts as you possibly can...and once Ganon turns around, roll under his legs and repeat. 10 hits will allow you to reclaim your sword. Phase 2: In this phase, only the Master Sword can damage him. (I've tested this too many times using other inventory items.) So, re-equip your sword and do what AKA does--roll under his legs and try to keep him down as long as possible with quick spins. Ten more hits and you'll be able to deal the final blow. The Final Blow & Trailing Dialogue There isn't much to say about the climactic blow--just stand next to Ganon and press B on the first frame you possibly can. You will need to forward through all the dialogue boxes that follow, and do so as quickly as possible since they count in your time. The final dialogue box is shown below: Once you've provided the last input, stop recording as soon as you can, preferably on the next frame. Any extraneous frames will inflate your final time, and you don't want that.
Nitsuja wrote:
Make sure to save a savestate and load it again after making the last input you want in the movie, before you stop recording.
Thanks, Nitsuja. Play the movie all the way from the very beginning and make sure it reaches the final "THE END" screen (even though there is no recorded input for the last seven or so minutes).
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Mwl, I am currently decending the tower. Every battle went perfect for me.
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mwl
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Glad you're almost finished. Good luck with the rest--I can't wait to see it.
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Whoa I never thought I would miss so much. I'm sorry I wasn't around during the poe boost, but I did give a detailed description somewhere earlier in the topic. Seriously its not worth busting your ass over it especially since that holy grail bomb glitch could be done quicker. If you're doing another run then I take you'll be doing Ganon Early + BA, which could probally save about 20 mins overall although I haven't gone to the bother of calculating it correctly. I'll watch it in full on Monday providing you're able to complete it by then. On a side note without seeing the Adult run, you could get the arrows without any keys and withing about 3-4 mins. Edit : No it doesn't work my method was to beat the first stalfos room and use the bomb method to reach the top of the room but it doesn't work plus there is iron bars on both the doors at the top so you need to com efrom one of the doors on the oposite side i.e convetional route. However, on a rather pointless not you can get on top of the raised platform that lowers after the first stalfos is beaten in the top half of the room and from the platform you can glitch through the walls with a jump slash.
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AKA wrote:
On a side note without seeing the Adult run, you could get the arrows without any keys and withing about 3-4 mins.
Mind telling us how to get past the locked doors on the way to the arrows?
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kwinse wrote:
AKA wrote:
On a side note without seeing the Adult run, you could get the arrows without any keys and withing about 3-4 mins.
Mind telling us how to get past the locked doors on the way to the arrows?
You have to start as Jill Valentine instead of Link. Then you can use the lockpick!
Post subject: Re: The Last Segment
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mwl wrote:
Once you've provided the last input, stop recording as soon as you can, preferably on the next frame. Any extraneous frames will inflate your final time, and you don't want that.
But some people had problems with m64 movies ending on playback before the last input they recorded, so make sure to save a savestate and load it again after making the last input you want in the movie, before you stop recording.
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could someone please respond to my previous post/question on how to properly veiw .m64 files ?
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I'm sure it's in a FAQ somewhere, but you're sick, I'll 'umor you.
  • Download the appropriate version of Mupen.
  • Download the appropriate version of the OoT ROM.
  • Download GuanoBowl's latest movie file.
  • Run Mupen.
  • Make sure your plugin and raw data settings are identical to GuanoBowl's.
  • Load the ROM.
  • Load the movie file in read-only mode.
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Just wanted to say a quick hi and tell Guano he's doing a great job. Also wanted to tell JXQ to stop acting like a jerk with your personal attacks and whatnot, n00b. Take your stupid opinions elsewhere, no one cares, because they're stupid. Edit: And also JXQ I heard from a source I trust that you're a troll. Care to comment on this accusation?
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are they? i dont think so, most of them make sense to me :p
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Fabian, It's true, I'm a troll :( *leaves thread by walking backwards*
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JXQ wrote:
*leaves thread by walking backwards*
lol smartass Back on topic, can't wait to see the final movie. Didn't realize how close you were already with this route (I gave up trying to follow the massive threads over at SDA a long time ago)
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Final blow on Ganon is at frame 539871, 2 Hours 29.8 Minutes. End of movie is at frame , 2 Hours 33.4 Minutes http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=4F75F9DC2834DDD2 Save state at beginning of Outside Ganon's tower. No Desynch! Enjoy!
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Neeto, is this going to be submitted as a TAS video and will someone make an AVI for the entire thing? Sorry for the dumb question =) Also, are you planning on doing a new run with all the new tricks discovered?
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raserucort wrote:
Neeto, is this going to be submitted as a TAS video and will someone make an AVI for the entire thing? Sorry for the dumb question =)
No.
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Sorry, I'm just a bit new when it comes down to the process the runners have to go through to get things published.. Thanks for the witty response.
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You have to forgive Atma for giving you a "witty" response. Its because he is a bit frustrated not being able to TAS his Minish Cap run for quite some time due to work and eating too many hot pockets. Now lets check out G'Bowls finished run!
Nitrogenesis wrote:
Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!
Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
natt wrote:
I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
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Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P
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AngerFist wrote:
You have to forgive Atma for giving you a "witty" response. Its because he is a bit frustrated not being able to TAS his Minish Cap run for quite some time due to work
and laziness, don't forget the laziness.
...and eating too many hot pockets.
What's a hot pocket? I swear, I really don't know what they are.
Now lets check out G'Bowls finished run!
You should, it's good.
Mitjitsu
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How come save states never work for me? They load at the correct frame but automatically give me control at that given frame. I've tried checking it as read only but it makes no difference now I'll have to play it at 1000% speed as usual.
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If you loaded the savestate once without read-only you have to download it again and then check read-only. Otherwise it won't work.
mwl
Joined: 3/22/2006
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That was a spectacular finish. Every single battle was, as you said, perfect. I didn't think it was possible to crouch-stab both Iron Knuckles at once on the fourth floor of Ganon's Tower, but somehow you managed it. That was awesome. I'd really, really like to say that you got a perfect 10 on the last segment, but since TSA beat you by one second on the escape when entering the fourth floor (you had 2'32" left on the timer, while he had 2'33"), I'd have to give you a 9.9. =P But in any case, that was very, very well-done. It's been quite a pleasure walking you through much of this run, and I appreciate the mention in your submission text. Would you be up for doing a Majora's Mask run?
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Great job! Now, i think its time to do a rerun of it, with all the new tricks that various people have found out :-P.
"I think we can put our differences behind us... for science, you monster."
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Ive never played Majora's Mask sadly. But maybe someday! I'd also like to try a 100% run as well as an Improved, Ganon early, bottle glitch. See how fast that time can be.
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Congratulations on finishing the run, I'm looking forward to seeing the AVI. I've been very impressed with what I saw already, and have faith that you will continue to make great runs like this one.